Re: [whatwg] oninput for contentEditable

2010-08-28 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 03:16:16 +0200, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: WebKit has added the input event to contentEditable nodes. That part of this proposal seemed non-controversial. Do other browser vendors support changing the description of this event to apply to contentEditable nodes

[whatwg] Why is the feature Web Storage removed from HTML5 Spec?

2010-08-28 Thread zhao Matt
I saw HTML5 spec 's introductionhttp://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/introduction.html#introductionincludes the following content, Features that are not currently in this document that were in the past considered part of HTML5...,, include:... Web Storage I know Web Storage

Re: [whatwg] Why is the feature Web Storage removed from HTML5 Spec?

2010-08-28 Thread イアンフェッティ
Many features are now in separate specifications / drafts, linked to in the introduction you reference. It doesn't mean they're dead, indeed web storage has been implemented by a number of browsers as have other features listed there such as geolocation, websockets, etc. Don't read too much into

[whatwg] Which differences between embed and object

2010-08-28 Thread zhao Matt
According to HTML5 spec, the embed tag can play a swf file, however, the object tag can also play a swf file (though object is defined in HTML4). I don't understand why need the embed tag , because the object tag can support(or embed) many objects such as images, audio, videos, Java applets,

Re: [whatwg] Which differences between embed and object

2010-08-28 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:16 AM, zhao Matt mattzhao...@gmail.com wrote: According to HTML5 spec, the embed tag can play a swf file, however,  the object tag can also play a swf file (though object is defined in HTML4). I don't understand why need the embed tag , because the object tag can

Re: [whatwg] Have tabstrip / tab elements been discussed?

2010-08-28 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:54 PM, E.J. Zufelt li...@zufelt.ca wrote: Good evening, I am rather new to this list and am curious if anytime recently there has been discussion about adding tabstrip and tab elements to the html5 spec?  The concept of a tabstrip is a rather commonly used UI

Re: [whatwg] Have tabstrip / tab elements been discussed?

2010-08-28 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
On 28 Aug 2010, at 06:10, E.J. Zufelt wrote: 1. nav is for navigation, but in a web app selecting a tab may nave nothing to do with navigation, it may have to do with switching UI pages, which could potentially be considered navigation. I can't grok this sentence. You say it may have nothing

Re: [whatwg] Have tabstrip / tab elements been discussed?

2010-08-28 Thread E.J. Zufelt
On 2010-08-28, at 6:25 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: On 28 Aug 2010, at 06:10, E.J. Zufelt wrote: 1. nav is for navigation, but in a web app selecting a tab may nave nothing to do with navigation, it may have to do with switching UI pages, which could potentially be considered

Re: [whatwg] Have tabstrip / tab elements been discussed?

2010-08-28 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:32 PM, E.J. Zufelt li...@zufelt.ca wrote: It is important to provide semantic markup for complex UI controls where they are common, tabstrip/tab is one example of a common UI component that requires markup.  This way meaningful information about the role of the

Re: [whatwg] Have tabstrip / tab elements been discussed?

2010-08-28 Thread E.J. Zufelt
On 2010-08-28, at 6:40 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:32 PM, E.J. Zufelt li...@zufelt.ca wrote: It is important to provide semantic markup for complex UI controls where they are common, tabstrip/tab is one example of a common UI component that requires markup. This way

Re: [whatwg] Have tabstrip / tab elements been discussed?

2010-08-28 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
On 28 Aug 2010, at 23:39, E.J. Zufelt wrote: I am suggesting that a different tab page would not be navigation in the common sense, as the user is not leaving the current page, just switching contexts within the application. But the draft is explicit that links in a nav element might only

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 Doctype

2010-08-28 Thread David John Burrowes
Hello all, I wanted to chime in on this discussion. Let me say up front that clearly the w3c and the browser vendors all are on the same page as you, Ian. I'm not in the position to be challenging your collective wisdom! But, I share some of the same concerns (and more) as David Bruant, and

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 Doctype

2010-08-28 Thread Scott González
What percentage of all versions of all browsers do you think fully support any version of any spec? Saying that browser X supports some part of CSS2 is no more or less useful than saying browser X supports some part of CSS as it is defined today (which is backward compatible with how it was

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 Doctype

2010-08-28 Thread Jonathan Castello
I would guess that new features would go in their own spec, like Web Workers, WebSockets, and so on. If that is the case, you can still say browser X supports things by naming the specs, e.g. Chrome supports WebSockets. ~Jonathan Castello On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, David John Burrowes