On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:13:05 +0200, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de
wrote:
Yes, but we can *define* the flag in HTML and write down what it means with
respect to plugin APIs.
It seems much better to wait
On 2011-07-14 08:22, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Anne van Kesterenann...@opera.com wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:13:05 +0200, Julian Reschkejulian.resc...@gmx.de
wrote:
Yes, but we can *define* the flag in HTML and write down what it means with
respect to plugin
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:09:40 +0530, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Another question is flash. As far as I have seen, there seems to be no
option to specify whether the camera needs to use flash or not. Is this
decision left up to the device? (If someone is making an app which is
just
Hi Bjartur,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius
svartma...@gmail.com wrote:
Þann þri 12.júl 2011 09:15, skrifaði Oli Studholme:
Datetimes will usually be presented in a localized format to humans.
I think at most user agents will offer users the option to localise
datetime
Le 8 juil. 2011 à 07:20, Jeremy Keith a écrit :
1) Oli has shown the real-world use cases for attribution *within*
blockquotes.
using that for years (almost every day), an example
http://www.la-grange.net/2011/06/05/fruit
blockquote cite=urn:isbn:978-2-07-07533-7
pSur un pétale de lotus,
14.07.2011 13:49, Karl Dubost wrote:
using that for years (almost every day), an example
http://www.la-grange.net/2011/06/05/fruit
blockquote cite=urn:isbn:978-2-07-07533-7
pSur un pétale de lotus, j'écrivis ces quelques vers :/p
p«qMême si l'on vient me chercherbr/
Comment,
Þann fim 14.júl 2011 09:38, skrifaði Oli Studholme:
in graphic design a footer contains supplementary information about
the content it follows. the spec initially disallowed ‘fat footers’,
but the naming and common usage would have led to people using them
for fat footers regardless of the spec.
Þann fim 14.júl 2011 11:09, skrifaði Jukka K. Korpela:
14.07.2011 13:49, Karl Dubost wrote:
blockquote cite=urn:isbn:978-2-07-07533-7
pSur un pétale de lotus, j'écrivis ces quelques vers :/p
p«qMême si l'on vient me chercherbr/
Comment, abandonnant la roséebr/
De pareil lotus,br/
I'd expect a web app to have no idea about device camera
specifications and thus to not be able to properly specify a flash
duration. I don't see how such a thing is valuable.
If a user is in a movie theater, or a museum, it's quite likely they
won't notice a web app is forcing a flash. Let the
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote:
On 2011-07-14 08:22, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Anne van Kesterenann...@opera.com
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:13:05 +0200, Julian Reschkejulian.resc...@gmx.de
wrote:
Yes, but we can
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote:
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Aaron Colwell acolw...@google.comwrote:
I am open to suggestions. My intent was that the browser would not attempt
to cache any data passed into append(). It would just demux the
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word documents as an
example). Traditionally the only way to achieve this is to set a
content-disposition header. *However, sometimes it is not possible for the
page author to
Some IRC discussion this morning concerned the scenario where an API
starts by exposing a property as a string, but later wants to change
it to be a complex object.
This appears to be a reasonably common scenario. For example, a
vocabulary with a name property may start with it being a string,
There is another common pattern, seen in blogging a lot, of putting
the citation at the top eg
As cite class=vcarda href=http://www.gyford.com/phil/;
class=url rel=acquaintance met colleagueabbr title=Phil Gyford
class=fnPhil/abbr/a/cite wrote about the a
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Karl Dubost ka...@opera.com wrote:
Le 14 juil. 2011 à 14:45, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) a écrit :
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word documents as an
example).
Which
2011/7/14 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word documents as an
example). Traditionally the only way to achieve this is to set a
content-disposition header.
Le 14 juil. 2011 à 14:45, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) a écrit :
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word documents as an
example).
Which current websites?
it seems like adding a rel attribute to the a
tag would
2011/7/14 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
2011/7/14 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com:
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word documents as an
example). Traditionally the only way to achieve
On 7/14/11, Kevin Marks kevinma...@gmail.com wrote:
There is another common pattern, seen in blogging a lot, of putting
the citation at the top eg
As cite class=vcarda href=http://www.gyford.com/phil/;
class=url rel=acquaintance met colleagueabbr title=Phil Gyford
class=fnPhil/abbr/a/cite
On 7/14/11, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com wrote:
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word documents as an
example). Traditionally the only way to achieve this is to set a
content-disposition header.
Le 14 juil. 2011 à 14:59, Kevin Marks a écrit :
If I was writing a detector for this pattern, a followed by a colon
and blockquote would do it pretty reliably...
yup unfortunately there are also many cases where you have more names in an
introducing paragraph. It is happening when I'm
2011/7/14 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word documents as an
example). Traditionally the only way to achieve this is to set a
content-disposition header.
Some in the microformats community have been making good use of the
time element, e.g. for publishing hCalendar, and implementing
consuming/converting hCalendar [1] with good success.
It would be great if the time element could support expressing
durations as well for the use cases as needed by
The download=filename seems like a nice proposal (assuming that the filename
is optional, and if not specified it just takes whatever the name would
otherwise be). It also neatly solves the filename issue without cluttering
the a tag with tons of options.
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Glenn
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
2011/7/14 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word documents as an
example). Traditionally the
2011/7/14 Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org:
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
2011/7/14 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com
Many websites wish to offer a file for download, even though it could
potentially be viewed inline (take images, PDFs, or word
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Tantek Çelik tan...@cs.stanford.eduwrote:
2011/7/14 Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org:
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
2011/7/14 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com
Many websites wish to offer a file for download,
In agreement with Jeremy, I too have found the blockquote/q cite
attribute to be nearly as ignored as the longdesc attribute, despite
having conducted talks and written tutorials about how to use the
cite= attribute (makes me think that the non-visible-effect-URL
attributes on elements should be
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 13:46, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote:
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Tantek Çelik tan...@cs.stanford.edu
wrote:
2011/7/14 Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org:
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
2011/7/14 Ian Fette
2011/7/14 Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org
I know that there is also a proposal to add a FileSaver API. I like that
as well, _but_ it is very nice to be able to simply decorate an anchor tag.
In many cases, that will be a lot simpler for developers than using
JavaScript to construct a
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
2011/7/14 Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org
I know that there is also a proposal to add a FileSaver API. I like that
as well, _but_ it is very nice to be able to simply decorate an anchor tag.
In many cases, that will be a
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Tantek Çelik tan...@cs.stanford.edu wrote:
Indeed, and has been pointed out, already specified (since 2005) and
implemented as well for HTML:
http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-enclosure
re-using the enclosure term from the Atom format (thus minimal
Le 14 juil. 2011 à 16:48, Tantek Çelik a écrit :
cite= attribute (makes me think that the non-visible-effect-URL
attributes on elements
Yup. :) and there are ways to improve what the browser doesn't do :)
(though I really think the browser should)
I made a prototype for this
Le 14 juil. 2011 à 14:45, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) a écrit :
a rel=attachment href=blah.pdf would indicate that the browser
should treat this link as if the response came with a content-disposition:
attachment header, and offer to download/save the file for the user.
A random thought just occured
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Tantek Çelik tan...@cs.stanford.edu wrote:
Also the empty download attribute doesn't work as it is supposed to be
equivalent to download=download which would simply name the file
download which is unlikely what author or user want.
This is incorrect. If you
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Tantek �~Gelik wrote:
Some in the microformats community have been making good use of the
time element, e.g. for publishing hCalendar, and implementing
consuming/converting hCalendar [1] with good success.
[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/h2vx#HTML5_support
It would
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
That reminds me of something download=filename can't do: assign a filename
while leaving it inline, so save as and other operations can have a
specified filename. That would require two separate properties. One case
I've
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Tantek Ã~Gelik wrote:
Some in the microformats community have been making good use of the
time element, e.g. for publishing hCalendar, and implementing
consuming/converting hCalendar [1] with good success.
On 7/14/11, Karl Dubost ka...@opera.com wrote:
what about adding
a href=foo.pdf target=_downloadSave a Tree, Eat a beaver/a
This seems like the best solution to me. A filename hint has two use
cases: a suggestion for a local identifier, and providing a filename
extension for systems that use
(This isn't the final reply on this thread, but I thought I should give a
heads-up as to the general direction I am expecting us to go in here.)
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
We've been experimenting with the styling of the details element,
trying to figure out the most sensible
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.comwrote:
Optimizing for the user choosing to right-click=Save seems like a
much more niche case than linking to a file that should be downloaded.
Plus, you could address it by just wrapping the img in an a:
a
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 15:21, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
(This isn't the final reply on this thread, but I thought I should give a
heads-up as to the general direction I am expecting us to go in here.)
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
We've been experimenting with the
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