Re: [whatwg] video application/octet-stream

2010-07-21 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 07/21/2010 10:24 AM, Chris Double wrote: Or the developers of said browser could obey the mime type that the server sent, not have to write or maintain error prone content sniffing code that could behave differently across browsers (Chrome content sniffs this as Ogg but you dont!!, etc),

Re: [whatwg] The vision behind the device element and the ConnectionPeer interface

2010-07-13 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 07/13/2010 07:49 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: We need a specification that defines how the helper servers and browsers are to interact, and how, once they have a control channel set up, how they are to set up further channels such as a way to be ready to receive UDP packets for a video

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-05 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 07/05/2010 04:46 PM, Shane Fagan wrote: For windows maybe there should be a .exe/.msi with the entire package of VP8+Theora+Vorbis or just VP8+Vorbis to make it easier to install There is: http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/oggdsf/opencodecs_0.84.17315.exe

Re: [whatwg] Allowing in attribute values

2010-06-25 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/25/2010 11:50 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: It seems like what you want here is for browsers to parse as they do now, but a particular subset of browser-accepted syntax to be enshrined so that when defining your restrictions over content you control you can just say follow the spec instead of

Re: [whatwg] Allowing in attribute values

2010-06-24 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/24/2010 03:43 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: Why would it simplify parsing? It greatly simplifies parsing when you just want to extract entire tags, without immediately parsing the attributes. It's rather nice to allow it for the iframe srcdoc feature. The srcdoc already needs to be

Re: [whatwg] Allowing in attribute values

2010-06-24 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/24/2010 05:22 AM, Brett Zamir wrote: I do not see any reference to this in the XHTML 1.0 specification (nor XHTML 1.1), and in XML, section 2.4, it states only that it must be escaped if part of the sequence ]] in content, which I guess means only element content. E4X also does not

[whatwg] Allowing in attribute values

2010-06-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
The HTML5 spec appears to allow inside an attribute value. For example, the following page (note the body tag) passes the experimental HTML5 validator at w3c.org: !DOCTYPE HTMLhtmlheadtitle/title/head body class=32 /body/html I think should be disallowed inside attribute values. It is

Re: [whatwg] A New Way Forward for HTML5

2009-07-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Justin Lebar wrote: That being said, inline spec comments sound interesting. I'm not quite sure what the UI would look like, but if anyone has any ideas, feel free to e-mail me directly and we can figure something out. (This would be exceedingly

Re: [whatwg] A New Way Forward for HTML5

2009-07-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: That sounds to me like a good reason to declare a freeze at last call, and release an immutable beta 1 on which comments can be made. Then close the comment period on beta 1, and (potentially) release a beta 2, etc

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-09 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
David Gerard wrote: * In the one released browser that supports video and Theora, Firefox 3.5, this will Just Work. Two! Firefox and Chrome. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-09 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
David Gerard wrote: 2009/7/9 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: David Gerard wrote: * In the one released browser that supports video and Theora, Firefox 3.5, this will Just Work. Two! Firefox and Chrome. Really? I thought that was next Chrome, not this Chrome. It seems

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-06-16 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Kristof Zelechovski wrote: The first video source that can be played wins. You cannot provide alternative versions for different languages or resolutions in one VIDEO element. If the browser decides that a video is too high resolution and cannot be played on this system, then why can't it

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-06-15 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
jjcogliati-wha...@yahoo.com wrote: Okay. Thanks. Maybe to make this more clear section 4.8.7.1 should add a sentence somewhere like: Authors may provide multiple source elements to provide different codecs for different user agents. Not just different codecs. Different bitrates,

Re: [whatwg] MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-05-29 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: We have chosen to support H.264 + AAC as well as Ogg (Theora + Vorbis) for video in Google Chrome H.264 is heavily patented, and H.264 implementors typically acquire patent licenses from MPEG LA. However, as noted in [1], Chrome's use of ffmpeg for codec support

Re: [whatwg] MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-05-29 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: We are using H.264 in Google Chrome, not in Chromium. We do not have the ffmpeg / h.264 related code in chromium (only the header files for ffmpeg), ffmpeg and h.264 related stuff is a complete external dependency loaded at run time. Chromium is the open source

[whatwg] A new attribute for video and low-power devices

2009-05-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
As I have mentioned earlier, there are some devices that will be unable to render video faithfully inline, due to the limitations of hardware video accelerators. However, it occurs to me that there are two essentially different uses for video 1. Important content for the webpage. An example

Re: [whatwg] A new attribute for video and low-power devices

2009-05-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Simon Pieters wrote: Is there a problem with always falling back to the poster image and just play the video (full-screen or on-top) when the user indicates he wants to see the video? If every menu button has a video tag associated with it to show a little 3D animation, then (a) how do you

Re: [whatwg] A new attribute for video and low-power devices

2009-05-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Simon Pieters wrote: If there is a controls attribute or if scripting is disabled, show controls, else use author-provided scripted button (if any) to play the video. Consider a webpage in which a side-effect of clicking on some scripted button is to trigger a small animation (using video)

Re: [whatwg] A new attribute for video and low-power devices

2009-05-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Simon Pieters wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2009 18:59:01 +0200, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Simon Pieters wrote: If there is a controls attribute or if scripting is disabled, show controls, else use author-provided scripted button (if any) to play the video. Consider

[whatwg] video and acceleration

2009-03-27 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear What, Short: video won't work on slow devices. Help! Long: The video tag has great potential to be useful on low-powered computers and computing devices, where current internet video streaming solutions (such as Adobe's Flash) are too