Those two lines from spec [1] are in conflict:
Because this attribute is typically implemented using CSS, it's also
possible to override it using CSS
if something is marked hidden, it is hidden from all presentations
The latter is not true as currently implemented.
The former allows a css
On 1/28/14 1:04 AM, Elliott Sprehn espr...@gmail.com wrote:
Blink treats br (conceptually) like a subclass of Text, there's nothing
to style because it's just a run of text with a forced break.
I'd just like to note that 'inline' styling for br should be allowed.
I have been using it for a
On 1/26/14 3:39 PM, Qebui Nehebkau qebui.nehebkau+wha...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Bruno Racineux br...@hexanet.net wrote:
What exactly do you find misguided, can you be more specific?
Basically, - and I'm trying not to over-elaborate here, since my
opinion isn't
On 1/24/14 7:35 AM, David Newton da...@davidnewton.ca wrote:
On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 1/23/14 9:13 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote:
Could 'resource control' be an associated spec of the 'hidden'
attribute?
It bothers me, at first glance, to overload
On 1/24/14 7:37 PM, Qebui Nehebkau qebui.nehebkau+wha...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Bruno Racineux br...@hexanet.net wrote:
The requirement for ATs with 'hidden' is to access the structure of
hidden
elements. Not the presentation aspect... I am having a hard time
On 1/22/14 6:07 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 1/22/14 8:14 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote:
Meanwhile, is there a way in which all vendors can prevent their
pre-loaders from preloading (and loading at all for that matter) any
img
that has either: An html5 hidden attribute
On 1/22/14 3:54 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote:
The way we'd likely implement this feature in Blink is in couple
stages. In the first stage, we'd implement the portions of the
specification that don't involve media queries because we'll be able
to provide developers a high-quality
On 11/20/13 6:09 PM, Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net wrote:
With preload scanner limitation definitions in head is the best we
could
possibly do. I have proposed Media Query Variables intended to be used in
style in head for responsive images.
I've also wanted MQ variables to be usable
On 11/19/13 12:12 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013, Markus Ernst wrote:
I can't recall the reasons why Florian's proposal of combining
picture
and @srcset fell out of the discussion. To me it still looks like the
most useable draft so far.
I responsed to proposals
On 11/19/13 4:17 PM, Laurent Perez l.lauren...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to propose the following pseudocode, building upon CSS4 range
media queries.
@media (3dppx resolution = 2dppx), (min-width: 320px) {
.artdirection {
background-image:url(high.png);
background-position: center;
On 11/18/13 5:38 AM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote:
Agree. It would be ideal to try to find a way forward here with src-n.
Mozilla is not really interested in restarting this whole effort again
with imgset or new CSS-in-the-head proposals (though, of course,
orthogonal improvements to
On 11/18/13 4:25 PM, Qebui Nehebkau qebui.neheb...@gmail.com wrote:
Many people seem to find regexps
difficult to understand, and the regexps involved would only get more
difficult as the complexity of URL patterns increases. Forcing authors
to use them sounds like a great way to guarantee
On 11/18/13 6:21 PM, Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net wrote:
However, the most terse syntaxes are starting to look like Perl. It's not
always the best idea to squeeze every byte out of a syntax.
Even if none of existing proposals is perfect in terms of DRY, I think
overall they're good
On 11/18/13 8:21 PM, Ilya Grigorik igrigo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Bruno Racineux br...@hexanet.net wrote:
Because these (only 0.2% uzing gzip) stats do not look good at all in
support of your theoretical argument:
http://trends.builtwith.com/Server/GZIP-Module
On 11/15/13 9:48 PM, matmarquis.com m...@matmarquis.com wrote:
I¹d say the likelihood of a project not using a content image directory a
step or two from root is roughly the same as the likelihood that I¹m
hot-linking to images on someone else¹s website땧hich is to say ³very
slim.² The ³real
On 11/16/13 3:24 PM, matmarquis.com m...@matmarquis.com wrote:
I started and have been running the Responsive Images Community Group for
nearly three years now.I helped build BostonGlobe.com and the original
³prototype² script for responsive images, I¹m a maintainer on the
Picturefill project,
On 11/13/13 5:52 AM, John Mellor joh...@google.com wrote:
style
@media (max-width: 19.99em) {
.artdirected { content: replaced image-set(128px;
attr(srcs-smallicon));
}
}
@media (min-width: 20em) {
.artdirected { content: replaced image-set(100% (30em) 50% (50em) 33%;
On 11/15/13 2:50 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
There is no compaction
scheme that helps here. (Unless you're trying for one of the
url-template ones, and we don't want to go there.)
Why not? I'd like to hear the argument against what I am proposing.
Either a regex or a
On 11/15/13 3:23 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't understand. You don't repeat any sources, you specify them
once. There's just a batch of sources per image. Can't make this
more compact.
What I mean is that with src-N you will have to repeat the paths AND the
full
It does not require the preloader to have full css parser. It only has
to
parse @media and the new @imgset CSS subset language, using a similar
syntax to @media. And I believe if offer an easy way to polyfill this.
This isn't as terrible for polyfilling, since it's easier to spot
things and
On 11/12/13 12:11 AM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi
wrote:
2013-11-12 9:58, Adam Barth wrote:
Unfortunately, we can't add new tags to head. If the parser sees a
tag it doesn't recognize in the head, it creates a
Here is a complementary approach to the src-N syntax, I'd like to present
for discussion.
The goal is:
1. Address all use cases in a similar way as src-N does without the 'N'
part.
2. Cut the verbose to a 'strict' minimum with reusable OO definitions.
3. Provide a vocabulary that is easy to
On 11/8/13 10:46 AM, Rafael Rinaldi rafael.rina...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks complex because it tries to solve something complex. I think
there¹s no way to avoid verbosity to solve such thing.
The only way to avoid verbosity on every img element would be to
predefine a relationship between the
On 10/15/13 1:00 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote:
Lists are appropriate for indicating nested tree structures. The use of
lists to markup comments is a common mark up pattern used in blogging
software such as wordpress. The code verbosity is
I've ran into the following layout issue while using the accessibility audit
extension on Chrome.
https://github.com/GoogleChrome/accessibility-developer-tools/issues/64
In brief, there is an accessibility issue with floated images within an
anchor element,
which is present on the web on a
preloaders to fetch these scripts as soon as possible, in case they are
needed.
How common are media-specific scripts?
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Bruno Racineux wrote:
Wouldn't browsers be able to store pre-parsed/compiled' scripts in a
separate byte code cache, with scripts promoted
significantly, just like opcode does for php.
And make CDN libraries even more useful and relevant that way. Or is this
wildly nuts? In which case no need to answer.
Bruno
From: Andy Davies dajdav...@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:55 AM
To: Bruno Racineux br...@hexanet.net, WHATWG List
On 7/15/13 6:12 AM, Yoav Weiss y...@yoav.ws wrote:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Bruno Racineux br...@hexanet.net wrote:
Taking about executing script as quickly as possible (threads from
1012
which I missed and tried to glanced through just get better educated
about
previous
On 7/15/13 3:02 PM, Yoav Weiss y...@yoav.ws wrote:
It goes beyond frameworks if based on pure 'access frequency'.
For example, a site backend you use daily or you favorite web app would
be
also benefit.
Including the G+, Twitter and Facebook site's scripts, Map APIs, Google
News, or
On 7/13/13 5:55 AM, Andy Davies dajdav...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12 July 2013 01:25, Bruno Racineux br...@hexanet.net wrote:
On browser preloading:
There seems to an inherent conflict between 'indiscriminate'
Pre-parsers/
PreloadScanner and responsive design for mobile. Responsive designs
Nobody should be arguing about 'pet projects' or 'ignorance' here, it's
really uncalled for. Characterizing strong counter arguments or strong
views as 'attacks' is also unnecessary.
May I remind you Alex that this thread's request for feedback started with
two simple questions: Would something
On 7/11/13 6:00 AM, Jake Archibald jaffathec...@gmail.com wrote:
link rel=subresource almost 50% of scripts sent without proper
caching headers. If the browser is doing what it should do, it won't
cache those
This is not how link[rel=subresource] should work, the first request
for the
On browser preloading:
There seems to an inherent conflict between 'indiscriminate' Pre-parsers/
PreloadScanner and responsive design for mobile. Responsive designs
mostly implies that everything needed for a full screen desktop is
provided in markup to all devices.
Isn't the
On 7/9/13 7:09 PM, Kyle Simpson get...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been wrestling pretty hard with script loading issues lately. I'd
say that having the browser manage script interdependency is probably a
bad and cumbersome way to solve these issues.
What do you mean by having the browser manage
On 7/10/13 4:20 AM, Jake Archibald jaffathec...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 July 2013 11:31, Bruno Racineux br...@hexanet.net wrote:
Anyway, as per your previous email I think we mostly agree that solution
#1 is not very practical (or infeasible per your word)
Given the suggestions I made to #1
I just joined the list and glad this subject is brought up.
I have been wrestling pretty hard with script loading issues lately. I'd
say that having the browser manage script interdependency is probably a
bad and cumbersome way to solve these issues. I'll try to explain,
talk about the defer
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