On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, Michael[tm] Smith wrote:
Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch, 2014-02-18 23:59 +:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Jonathan Watt wrote:
I wonder if it would be that bad to have a 'year' type to compliment
the 'month' and 'day' types...
This has come up a few times, but so far
as specified in the
API. Why would we do anything else?
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Jürg Lehni wrote:
I meant to say that it I think it would make
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
On 04/02/2014 07:52 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Ami Fischman wrote:
Looks like we're back in business:
Latest editor's draft:
http://dev.w3.org/2011/webrtc/editor/getusermedia.html
As a user, this scares me a lot
that the privacy aspects (the fingerprinting vulnerabilities
from exposing this data), and the abuse aspects (giving hostile sites the
ability to access all the user's devices if any are made available) would
trump this. Surely we can rely on user agents to provide nice UIs.
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On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote:
On 6 April 2014 05:11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote:
The summary itself is not interactive, so only the triangle
provides the actionable control.
The spec doesn't disallow making clicks on (non
to a hammer.
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have proposed
the following:
details
summary id=x label for=xFoo/label /summary
...
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That's way more complicated than necessary for authors, not to mention all
the problems it would cause with the existing label definitions.
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handled by the next-generation transport protocols
(SPDY or whatever it's called now). I recommend approaching the relevant
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element hierarchy then itemprop-up could work.
Did you reach any conclusions in these discussions?
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On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Qebui Nehebkau wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I think the arguments you've presented so far suggest address-levelN
for N=1..4, with 4=region and 3=locality, is probably the simplest
thing to do. I was hoping there might
a use for, we could add it.
It's worth noting that there are many many ways to navigate a browsing
context beyond window.open(), e.g. a target=, window.location,
drag-and-drop of a link, window.history.go(), etc.
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On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Cameron McCormack wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
I'm all for handling it in one place. What precisely do you want the
behaviour to be? (Consider HTML-in-SVG and SVG-in-HTML also -- the first
svg:title element may come after the firsthtml:title element, and
vice versa
, or is
there simply not a convincing enough use case for the need?
There's not any way currently to make for controls map to microdata. It's
not clear exactly what it would mean.
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2014, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, Jonas Sicking wrote:
An even simpler solution would be to say we choose the first
html:title or svg:title in document order. That has the nice
property
myself.
I've added a link to the above MDN page to the keygen section. If there is
ever something more canonical (and yet still useful and accurate), let me
know and I'll update the spec.
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don't
know what we can do to cause authors to rely on this API and its siblings
rather than on IP geolocation.
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with whatever you
use, as long as you tell me what it is. :-) Assuming that it works well,
then we would just update the spec to use that term directly,
retroactively making the experimental content conforming.
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this thread but I can't find a description of the use
cases it addresses, so it's hard to evaluate the proposals.
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isn't impacted. Can't you just draw
the transformed arc instead of first drawing the circular arc and then
transforming it?
Maybe what I'm saying is obviously dumb for some reason, but I'm not
understanding why, if so... (not that I'm a graphics guy, obviously).
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I've done some more work on the spec for event rerouting for hit regions,
based on the feedback sent to this list.
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
For instance
://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23515
It's awaiting interest from a second vendor. It's not clear to me from the
Mozilla bug whether Mozilla engineers actually support this.
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[Clarified on IRC to be:
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Cool, thanks. I've updated the bug so that it's on my radar again.
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ian Hickson i
. if it's
sized based on other content later in the page, as in a complex table).
I'm sure browsers can optimise a bit here, but it's not clear to me that
there's anything we need to explicitly require.
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), then the relative keywords must be interpreted relative to
# the normal-weight 10px sans-serif default.
This is needed for text rendering in Workers, if nothing else.
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, Justin Novosad wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
Testing all browsers (except IE since
document.implementation.createHTMLDocument() doesn't work) they seem
to handle canvas contexts
in one browser.
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On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Jeff Muizelaar wrote:
On Mar 5, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
To work around this, we could add a couple of constructor methods to
the 2D context:
Path2D createPath();
Creates a new empty Path
is that this is for addresses, not
generic regions.
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-levelN for
N=1..4, with 4=region and 3=locality, is probably the simplest thing to
do. I was hoping there might be other people with opinions, to give us
different perspectives on this, but it seems nobody else cares. :-(
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significantly easier for authors. For
example, it means they don't have to do any hit testing or click
management for buttons, checkboxes, radio buttons, etc. It all just works.
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
address-line1 |
address-line2 |- street-address
address-line3 |
address-level4
address-level3
address-level2 / locality
the tabindex attribute specified
Would that not include text fields?
How would it include text fields? Can you elaborate on what you mean? I
don't really follow.
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
Ok. It seems odd that the events are following the dom of the
fallback elements and not of the hit regions.
It's what events normally do
understand.
This is not all that different from how the mouse events work with hit
regions.
It's different in the important sense that there's only one mouse pointer,
but there can be multiple ongoing touches.
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2014, Evan Stade wrote [slightly edited for correctness]:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote
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My concern is that authors do something like this:
input ... autocomplete=address-line1
input
the question, what should authors do if they're soliciting addresses
from any country, if we don't tell them what this complicated JS is to do?
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that Chrome/Safari don't seem to support off and noscroll, only
no. I didn't test IE. The spec supports all three, still (as does FF).
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 1/7/14 2:24 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
It's probably just a matter of saying, in the rendering section, that
nested browsing contexts that aren't _being_rendered_ (or that are
frames outside framesets) get a 0x0 viewport.
That doesn't seem
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
2014-02-22 3:03, Ian Hickson wrote:
(Note that a lot of people in the UK have no idea how to write their
address according to current standards. For example, people often
include the county, give the real town rather than the post town
not work at all.
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that at this point, it's better to use numbers than more specific
names.
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standards. For example, people often include
the county, give the real town rather than the post town, put things
out of order, indent each line of the address, etc.)
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Kevin Marks wrote:
On 21 Feb 2014 17:03, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Those names come from vcard - if adding a new one, consider how to
model it in vcard too. Note that UK addresses can have this too - eg
3 high street, Kenton, Harrow, Middlesex, UK
That's
thing; should we have a special case in
browsers for size=1, or should we require size1?
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
So far, it seems like to support grids in canvas, we need:
- enable table-related elements (table, td, tfoot, etc) to be hit region
controls. (exclude col and colgroup
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
What about select?
What about it?
I'm curious if it's possible to implement an accessible list box or
other select control in a canvas. Wouldn't it be possible to make
questions:
How do we handle the multiple focus case? (There's focus in the crossword
and in the clue list at the same time.)
Do we expose the way each cell can be focused in two different directions?
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I'm curious if it's possible to implement an accessible list box or
other select control in a canvas. Wouldn't it be possible to make it
accessible if the canvas lets you
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
This example actually adds more questions:
How do we handle the multiple focus case? (There's focus in the
crossword and in the clue list at the same time.)
I don't think
=number does seem appropriate for
years, though.
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/suboptimal. If it wasn't for those,
I would say that just not using separators for four-digit numbers would be
an easy and effective solution.
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restrictions also happen to be things that canvas is actually really bad
at doing at all. There's another non-normative section that goes into more
detail about these kinds of things:
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? I couldn't
find it in the spec.
Allowed or disallowed in what sense? If you mean the content models, the
specification has elaborate text describing the rules; you can find the
introduction to content models here:
http://whatwg.org/html#content-models
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On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
If there are specific use cases that can't be done given the current
restrictions, please let me know;
What about select?
What about it?
What about an element
.
It doesn't throw, because the control might have just been created and the
author might have painted it before adding it to the canvas. It'll work
once the control is a descendant of the canvas. You can use this to
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Ami Fischman wrote:
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Ami Fischman wrote:
Recently https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23263
Navigator acquired the ability to enumerate media output devices
deploying this? What have you learnt so far?
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latest (including day-to-day updates) spec?
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in global
space.
Why is this not the case for arcs?
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it to
play a sound when the user tries to click on the space where the control
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documents, and we may extend this in the future (e.g. documents
intended only for use in iframes).
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On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
The spec is currently silent what should happen when an element that
is associated with a hit region, is moved to another location
_are_ doing this, then that's a good indication that we
should add it.
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that it
properly supports dialogs as a separate kind of focusable object.
I have a detailed proposal here:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23475#c16
I've noted your proposal above in comment 18.
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hurt the ability to use HTML from other namespaces (since
the HTML helper stuff on the Document would be missing).
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but the
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On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, Brian Blakely wrote:
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
This is what the shadow DOM would look like for modal dialogs:
::modal
- ::backdrop
- dialog
::modal is dialog's
to implement.
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On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, Michael[tm] Smith wrote:
Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch, 2014-01-22 00:54 +:
The idea of the inputmode= attribute is that it gives the mode that
is most likely to be needed by the user when providing input. There's
various modes that seem to make sense
and the other a list) would expose the
same information, or at least subsets thereof (for the single value one).
Jungshik, is there any particular reason for _not_ doing this?
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then define this for the
vocabulary generically, and process it generically, rather than having to
actually define and support each individual property.
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I've added a rule to the spec that says that viewports have
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Jonas Sicking wrote:
No sync IPC needed. When a port is pinned, you send an async message
to the process which contains the page for the other side. When
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Takayoshi Kochi (河内 隆仁) wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Japanese IME (e.g. Microsoft IME) has several modes for typing
characters, divided by the category of the set of characters (kana,
half-width-kana, alphanumeric, full-width
is alone in
trying to document the name space. Once we've proven that the model works,
assuming it works, we can approach other registries and show them our
experience. (And if it doesn't work, then we can keep trying to work on
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
If the user needs a big ring, it seems bad for us not to render one.
Especially since we can know this.
Yes, there are users who need extra high-contrast focus rings
, from an implement's persective.
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of *parsing HTML*.
It's not really different things, it's either doing what the spec says, or
aborting early.
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. If allowing this isn't Web compatible, then I guess
we'll have to change.
My hope is that we can limit what needs to have no effect, so that on the
long term br becomes less and less magical. But naturally this depends
on what is Web compatible.
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2013, Justin Novosad wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Text decoration can theoretically be drawn directly by the
application by using font metrics to compute decoration positions,
but this is often very complex to do correctly
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to introducing yet more attributes.
We originally had this in Wbe Forms 2.0, but it is far more complex than
necessary, IMHO. Authors don't need that level of control in the vast
majority of cases.
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2013, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
WCAG 2.0 claims that many platforms allow the user to customize the
rendering of this focus indicator, though I admit that I don't see
any references for this claim:
http
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I don't see that as an argument against caching the last known
location of an object too.
If you want to store state, that's what addHitRegion() is for. It's
the retained mode
not force this
behaviour. That's terrible API design.
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is moving, but you only update the bounding box when the
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I've added a rule to the spec that says that viewports have to be
pannable so you can see all of a dialog, but I don't know how feasible
that really is.
I could see
.).
Seems reasonable. Is any other browser vendor interested in implementing
something to address this?
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
1. When a modal dialog is active, the user can still scroll the
underlying page.
Why is that a bug?
By its nature, a modal view
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Ami Fischman wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I suppose we could fire resize on initial load as well. I guess it
depends on what code that uses this looks like. Is the initial size
change the same kind of code as resizing
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I really don't understand why we'd want that level of complexity for
something that we can solve with just a single event handler, though.
The problem, as described, is just we need
established as the appropriate event to use when dimensions change.)
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for...
The feature request bug for this is:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22699
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Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
task has finished. It's like the note in the
next step, which doesn't mention that the event in question fires later.
Notes often trade precision for brevity; if they were as precise as the
normative text, they'd be as long as the normative text and wouldn't help. :-)
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