Re: [whatwg] WHATWG on Google+

2011-11-21 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 11/21/11 3:39 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: If you can tell me which pieces those are, I can see what I can do about updating the annotations mechanism to make those checkins easier to filter out. That's the problem. The set of changes that matter

Re: [whatwg] WHATWG on Google+

2011-11-21 Thread Ian Hickson
asking are browser vendors or not, in fact, let alone with which they are affiliated. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] WHATWG on Google+

2011-11-21 Thread Ian Hickson
me a good idea of what coarseness would be helpful here, and thus whether this is a realistic idea. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] @font-face rules in style scoped

2011-11-18 Thread Ian Hickson
clarifying text or an example to the spec if that would help. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Origin of a data: URL for an img

2011-11-16 Thread Ian Hickson
in the origin section is: If an image is the image of an img element and its image data is CORS-same-origin The origin is the origin of the img element's Document. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Origin of a data: URL for an img

2011-11-16 Thread Ian Hickson
more. I should strip those other entries. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r6757 - [e] (0) Since I'm going to be editing this algorithm some more, let's bite the b [...]

2011-10-25 Thread Ian Hickson
by +     U+000A LINE FEED (CRLF) characters./li Same: should this just be (LF)? Thanks. Fixed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Suggestion for HTML5 context menus

2011-10-25 Thread Ian Hickson
the UA menu because of this? In general, there's also the need to not add features so fast that the feature set in different browsers is completely different due to them each implementing their own subset of the spec. This is one reason to keep the spec growth slow. HTH, -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] UndoManager: better name for Transaction

2011-10-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: How about UndoableTransaction? Or DOMTransaction? Either works for me. Just pick one and go with it. :-) So long as it's not something that could be very confusingly used by other APIs (or indeed by user code) it doesn't matter to me. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen

2011-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
homes once we agree on the spec. I haven't yet added them to the spec. I'm sure Anne will add links once I have. :-) Anne, is there a bug or e-mail tracking what exactly you'd like me to add to the HTML spec here? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Entering fullscreen when already in fullscreen mode [was: Fullscreen]

2011-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
onbeforeunload and onunload? Should it just happen when the session history is updated (i.e. when the page load changes the rendering), or at some other point? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r6630 - [giow] (0) Define navigating to video and audio resources Fixing http://www.w3.o [...]

2011-10-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:37:22 -, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Simon Pieters wrote: video and audio should have controls= and autoplay= The spec allows browsers to do that (in fact it explicitly calls out

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r6630 - [giow] (0) Define navigating to video and audio resources Fixing http://www.w3.o [...]

2011-10-05 Thread Ian Hickson
. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [CORS] WebKit tainting image instead of throwing error

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
, then the image should not be usable at all. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [CORS] WebKit tainting image instead of throwing error

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:32:02 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: The idea is that if the server explicitly rejected the CORS request, then the image should not be usable at all. FWIW, from a CORS-perspective both scenarios are fine. CORS

Re: [whatwg] [CORS] WebKit tainting image instead of throwing error

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#potentially-cors-enabled-fetch -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [CORS] WebKit tainting image instead of throwing error

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
the image to be used by any google.* domain registered by Google, but not any other domain). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [CORS] WebKit tainting image instead of throwing error

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
to the resource. If it doesn't understand the request, there's no point adding the attribute in the first place. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Selectors within style scoped

2011-09-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011, Roland Steiner wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2011, Roland Steiner wrote: Hm, AFAICT Hixie's mail on www-style@ didn't raise any objections against the idea itself, the discussion just revolves around what

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r6590 - [giow] (0) Explicitly disallow combining characters at the start of text nodes. [...]

2011-09-27 Thread Ian Hickson
+ Also ban them at the start of attribute values? Done. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Selectors within style scoped

2011-09-27 Thread Ian Hickson
forward.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Making selectionDirection platform-independent

2011-09-26 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011, Philip Rogers wrote: Are there arguments against making selectionDirection explicitly forward or backward if the user modifies the selection, regardless of platform? It wouldn't match the platform on platforms that don't do that. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Autofocus readonly Input Elements

2011-09-23 Thread Ian Hickson
focusable at all, I don't see why they wouldn't be autofocusable. Is there a use case for special-casing read-only ones? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible

Re: [whatwg] HTMLForms: Implicit Submission with {display:none} button

2011-09-23 Thread Ian Hickson
in the spec do not say anything about the behaviour being different for elements that are display:none or otherwise hidden, though, so I don't see any reason to consider the visibility of a button in making the decision as to which button is the default. HTH. -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] Editorial comment r/e summary element

2011-09-21 Thread Ian Hickson
not exist. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] canvas drawing with singular transforms and zero-sized gradients

2011-09-21 Thread Ian Hickson
be to compute the average color of the image pixels and do a solid fill with that color, which would give you that consistency you're asking for. But is that worth implementing? No-one does that today. I've gotten around this by defining that the scaling happens after the repeating. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Editorial comment r/e summary element

2011-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
that are of relatively little practical importance. For example, replacing it with if the element has such a parent changes this minor point from a two-word side note to a whole sentence fragment taking a quarter of the sentence. Anyone have any suggestions? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Web Forms 2 Repetition Model—please reinstate on specification

2011-09-19 Thread Ian Hickson
group. I encourage you to bring up the suggestion there. Unfortunately, coming up with a declarative solution whose cost-to-usefulness ratio is good enough has proven over the years to be a rather elusive goal. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Selectors within style scoped

2011-09-14 Thread Ian Hickson
parent to be included as part of the scope, then it could allow the advert to be altered in a way that could negatively affect the users of the site the ad appeared on. That's possible anyway -- the advertisment could just not use scoped=, or use a hostile script. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r6088 - [e] (0) clarification Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12165

2011-09-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Simon Pieters wrote: On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:09:39 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 6 May 2011, Simon Pieters wrote: Modified: source === --- source 2011-05-05 22:03:52 UTC (rev

Re: [whatwg] readystatechange for SCRIPT

2011-09-09 Thread Ian Hickson
part of the simplification benefit. However, if this turns out to be a more systemic problem, we will of course have to consider courses of action such as this one. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] readystatechange for SCRIPT

2011-09-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 9/9/11 3:40 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: This is what I'm leaning towards at the moment. Are there any objections to removing the readyState support fromscript (reverting r6543) and moving onreadystatechange to HTMLDocument exclusively

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r6088 - [e] (0) clarification Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12165

2011-09-09 Thread Ian Hickson
the code tags or vice-versa. pre isn't allowed inside code (pre is flow content, code's content model only accepts phrasing content). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] readystatechange for SCRIPT

2011-09-09 Thread Ian Hickson
. Since nobody seems to object, I'm going to revert r6543 and make onreadystatechange special. Sounds good. Please let me know when the new spec text is up? It is done. http://html5.org/r/6550 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] readystatechange for SCRIPT

2011-09-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Hallvord R. M. Steen wrote: Siterer Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch: Note that I recently checked in some changes to script to expose a readyState IDL attribute and to fire 'readystatechange' events, based on what IE has implemented here. as far as I know Opera

Re: [whatwg] readystatechange for SCRIPT (Re: Feedback regarding script execution)

2011-09-08 Thread Ian Hickson
of these event handlers that apply everywhere simplifies the platform quite a bit. I'd like to study some of the pages that break if they have both, though, to see if there's anything simpler we can do first. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] readystatechange for SCRIPT (Re: Feedback regarding script execution)

2011-09-08 Thread Ian Hickson
that need better feature-detection, we should look at those on a case-by-case basis. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r6088 - [e] (0) clarification Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12165

2011-09-08 Thread Ian Hickson
respectively./p/dd For xmp it should say Use pre and code ... since just code is not a drop-in replacement for xmp. Good point. I went with pre or code. I don't think you'd use both, typically, right? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

[whatwg] Feedback regarding script execution

2011-09-07 Thread Ian Hickson
think.. I'd have to see concrete examples to be able to profile them to determine this one way or the other. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] DOM mutations, transactions and UndoManager thoughts

2011-08-26 Thread Ian Hickson
in public-weba...@w3.org. I encourage you to take part in these discussions. Cheers, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] registerProtocolHandler() whitelist

2011-08-23 Thread Ian Hickson
19, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I haven't updated the spec yet, but it strikes me that maybe what we should do instead is have a whitelist of protocols we definitely want to allow (e.g. mailto:), and define a common prefix for protocols that are used

[whatwg] Looking for volunteer for the PDF versions

2011-08-19 Thread Ian Hickson
then generate the PDFs and send them back for uploading to the Web server. If anyone is interested in doing this please ping me on IRC. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] createObjectURL(stream) protocol issue

2011-08-12 Thread Ian Hickson
taking action. How do you do it for http:, where the URL doesn't distinguish the two cases? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] createObjectURL(stream) protocol issue

2011-08-11 Thread Ian Hickson
to the given MediaStream. This would tremendously help the implementation. Could you elaborate? In what sense does it impact the implementation? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Microdata getItems()

2011-08-09 Thread Ian Hickson
remove itemscope from the element the Opera beta implementation still returns it as a top level microdata item even though it is now invalid. Is this expected behaviour? No. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] relationship between Document and HTMLDocument

2011-08-09 Thread Ian Hickson
not match either older DOM specs or current implementations) requires all Document objects to implement the HTMLDocument interface. I don't believe that's the case in current UAs, fwiw... Correct. This is an instance of the spec attempting to show the way forward. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] relationship between Document and HTMLDocument

2011-08-09 Thread Ian Hickson
, but that seems unlikely to be a compatibility issue. That works for me, I think. Could you elaborate on this? I'm not sure what you mean exactly. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] relationship between Document and HTMLDocument

2011-08-09 Thread Ian Hickson
and access their respective Document-level APIs. Whatever it takes to do that is whatever we'll have to do. Might well involve WebIDL changes, or HTML spec changes, or whatnot. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Need clarification on DOM exceptions thrown by canvas 2D drawImage

2011-08-08 Thread Ian Hickson
the bounds of the source image. A bit lower down in the same section, the spec says: When the filtering algorithm requires a pixel value from outside the original image data, it must instead use the value from the nearest edge pixel. (That is, the filter uses 'clamp-to-edge' behavior.) -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] making dfn.js work for multipage spec [was: Spec references in multipage]

2011-08-06 Thread Ian Hickson
and Anne add it to their splitters, if they're interested. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Support for RDFa in HTML5

2011-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
if these attributes will be part of HTML5 or is there another valid method to integrate RDFa into HTML5? Any specification can define extensions to HTML that are then allowed if you use that specification. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] AppCache-related e-mails

2011-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On the subject of diagnostics for appcache: On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Patrick Mueller wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 15:21, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Patrick Mueller wrote: I just tested Chrome beta this morning and saw nothing interesting in appcache error

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a web application descriptor

2011-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Mike Hanson wrote: On Jul 26, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Simon Heckmann wrote: I have read a lot in the last month about the future of html and web applications and I am very impressed by the progress this makes. However, I have

Re: [whatwg] Small consistency issue with HTML5 nav element examples

2011-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: On 5/4/11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: IMO browsers should implement link. link should be implementable cross-browser in CSS. Unfortunately, what we want and what we get don't always match. :-) On a more serious note, implementing link

Re: [whatwg] Browsers delay window.print() action until page load finishes

2011-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote: 04.05.2011, в 15:38, Ian Hickson написал(а): There seems to be no provision in the spec for a behavior Firefox and IE (and now WebKit-based browsers, too) have. If window.print() is called during page load, then its action is delayed until

Re: [whatwg] AppCache-related e-mails

2011-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
is not available., they wanted to show the actual error page generated by the server in the case of a deleted document or when the user doesn't have rights to access that doc. I don't see what's wrong with using 200 OK for that case. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] AppCache-related e-mails

2011-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
case, they are doing this to get rid of stale version tied to old manifest urls. But why? I couldn't figure out the use case from the source you mention. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Proposal to extend registerProtocolHandler

2011-08-01 Thread Ian Hickson
' (?) navigator.unregisterHandler('mailto:') ...and equivalent for MIME types. Is that really all that is needed here? (Ignore the names of the methods, they're not the names I'd use.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [editing] Caret Position Access Methods

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
participant to get/set caret/cursor position in order to reflect the multiple positions of each active author in a cooperative web session. Surely all but the local one would not be real carets? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: select in a datalist is completely ignored for form submission

Re: [whatwg] [editing] Caret Position Access Methods

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Dan Gisolfi wrote: Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote on 07/29/2011 12:28:15 PM: An example scenario for such a requirement (addition of such methods) would be the following: When developing an cooperative web enabled rich-text-editor, whereby multiple simultaneous

Re: [whatwg] sic element

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
of stylesheet rules for u, and when styles are disabled, u is rendered as underlined in visual presentation. This tends to draw attention more than is desirable in most situations. I would not expect authors to use u where [sic] is appropriate. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Submit controls should be barred from constraint validation in favor of a new pseudo-class

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 3 May 2011, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 05/02/2011 10:44 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 12/31/2010 02:20 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: far as I can tell. Anything that's visible and submitted is a candidate for constraint validation

Re: [whatwg] self-closing tags in html5

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
into HTML long before HTML5 added this support. It is used for VML for example. Note that this support has been removed from IE10. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] sic element

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 29.07.2011 20:05, Ian Hickson wrote: The point is just that u is used to explicitly annotate some text without saying why in a textual manner. This makes it quite distinct from [sic], which is an explicitly articulated annotation. I fail

Re: [whatwg] input element list attribute and filtering suggestions

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: The problem is the other way around. When wanting to show a short list that should be filtered based on user input. Why would it matter if the list is filtered or not when it's short? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] sic element

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 29.07.2011 23:56, Ian Hickson wrote: Anyway, aren't you saying that u says this text is annotated but no annotation is given? In that case, saying that u draws attention to its content might be more appropriate. The physical line

Re: [whatwg] input element list attribute and filtering suggestions

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: The problem is the other way around. When wanting to show a short list that should be filtered based on user input. Why would

Re: [whatwg] input element list attribute and filtering suggestions

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: The problem is the other

Re: [whatwg] input element list attribute and filtering suggestions

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
involved heuristics for figuring out how to filter to a few results. Are you suggesting that filter/no-filter should be selected using CSS? That seems outside of what CSS currently does anywhere. No, I'm saying it should be done using XBL or its successor. -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] on* attributes on DOM elements

2011-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:57:20 -0700, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I'm all in favour of making this generic across all vocabularies. I'm happy to work with Anne and Ms2ger to move all the HTML and SVG event handler attributes (does MathML

Re: [whatwg] questions regarding submit event timing

2011-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
, is asynchronous with respect to any script that triggered it. Handling these common but more complicated interactions is why this method is much clearer and more powerful than the overgeneric asynchronous event concept.) Indeed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Spec references in multipage

2011-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
. If anyone is interested in fixing this, let me know and I can try to explain the problem space. (One solution is to change the spec splitter to output data that a new dfn.js can use.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Browser inconsistencies in rendering optgroup and option

2011-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 May 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 5/2/11 7:26 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: I think it'd be better for [the rendering of options in a select being one to a line] to be a style scoped to the binding that defines the select, personally. OK, but more on this below. I would

Re: [whatwg] input element list attribute and filtering suggestions

2011-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Jonas Sicking wrote: The thing that makes this different than Google suggest-style UI is that in the latter case you need a script that continually polls

Re: [whatwg] link.sizes and [PutForwards=value]

2011-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 01/05/2011 02:29 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Olli Pettay wrote: may I wonder why on earth any new API, like

Re: [whatwg] Why deflate-stream is required to be enabled by the WebSocket API?

2011-07-27 Thread Ian Hickson
disallowed rather than required. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] INCLUDE and links with @rel=embed

2011-07-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: On 4/28/11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: All current UAs would understand the link (and most probably present it to the user). Inline presentation is an optional luxury: the important thing

Re: [whatwg] Form element invalid message

2011-07-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 12/29/2010 07:41 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: I actually think that the customerrormessage attribute that has been suggested

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a web application descriptor

2011-07-26 Thread Ian Hickson
webcam, first how is the application to know that the user would use a web cam? There's no need for the app to know. It can just allow the user to upload a photo, and the browser can offer to use the webcam. I haven't added anythign to the spec in relation to this proposal. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Styling of datagrid content

2011-07-26 Thread Ian Hickson
to see if recent developments around XBL go anywhere, and if they do, see if datagrid can just be implemented using a widget binding by authors rather than having a native widget. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Physical quantities: var or i?

2011-07-25 Thread Ian Hickson
, to write, say, Then we define the variable varmyFoo/var of type codefooType/code with initial value codeFoo/code - -, which really makes no sense, even if we use both var and code for myFoo. Why does it make no sense? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL

Re: [whatwg] PeerConnection, MediaStream, getUserMedia(), and other feedback

2011-07-25 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Shwetank Dixit wrote: On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:09:40 +0530, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Another question is flash. As far as I have seen, there seems to be no option to specify whether the camera needs to use flash or not. Is this decision left up

[whatwg] Forcing a download

2011-07-22 Thread Ian Hickson
to the download was. Which URL is given there of course depends on what URL the browser decides to put there. It could be the page's URL. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] a rel=attachment

2011-07-22 Thread Ian Hickson
either for the HTTP spec or the Content-Disposition spec (if HTTP doesn't define th header itself) to define. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] a rel=attachment

2011-07-22 Thread Ian Hickson
of this attribute as listed below. It's whatever encoding is used for the page. Attributes are just Unicode, parsed by the same parser as the rest of the page. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] a rel=attachment

2011-07-22 Thread Ian Hickson
-Disposition anymore? Not only does the new text mention Content-Disposition, it actually refers to its specification multiple times. Are you looking at the right diff? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Proposal to extend registerProtocolHandler

2011-07-22 Thread Ian Hickson
wih registerProtocolHandler()? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Specification of window.find()

2011-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 3 May 2011, Benjamin Poulain wrote: On 05/03/2011 01:42 AM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: I do not know the original use case but I can think of a few: -on mobile devices which have a find dialog but no user interface to access it, make the find dialog appear Are there pages

Re: [whatwg] Document's base URI should use the document's *current* address

2011-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
relative links in the original markup? I don't think we can change the base URL on the fly, all kinds of problems could result. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] comment element in HTML5 Spec?

2011-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Richard Summers wrote: I was wondering, is there any plan to implement a comment element within the HTML5 spec? I�m suggesting this as a complimentary element

[whatwg] base in body

2011-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
this like other browsers, so it would be affected by the same compatibility concern. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Muting MediaStreamTracks?

2011-07-18 Thread Ian Hickson
, and then, if the MediaStreamTrack object is still associated with a track, must enable the track if the new value is true, and disable it otherwise. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Enabling/disabling tracks in MediaStreams

2011-07-18 Thread Ian Hickson
leaving outgoing audio and while still having a local video montior. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] onForward and onBackward event and enable/disable Forward and Backward buttons.

2011-07-18 Thread Ian Hickson
into the session history and makes things work. Before we add more features along these lines, we should wait to see how authors are adopting the feature we already have. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] namespaces in html5

2011-07-17 Thread Ian Hickson
in the Web context to refer to some specific designs with known problems, and it is likely that you actually want something different. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Geolocation - Browser usability issues with regards to asking user permission

2011-07-15 Thread Ian Hickson
UAs to experiment with different constraints. Is this something that needs defining more precisely? In general I haven't specified this in detail because the model of trusting user clicks doesn't work (due to clickjacking attacks). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Accept full CSS colors in the legacy color parsing algorithm

2011-07-15 Thread Ian Hickson
adding new capabilities, since this is only used for legacy features. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Accept full CSS colors in the legacy color parsing algorithm

2011-07-15 Thread Ian Hickson
) we might as well go with the sane behaviour. Interop isn't perfect here so there's not really any winning whatever we do. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] details, summary and styling

2011-07-15 Thread Ian Hickson
, the fact that the details themselves - the content of the details element excluding the summary element - do not constitute an element makes things rather difficult. It's easy to wrap them in an element for fallback purposes. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

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