Re: [whatwg] Forcing orientation in content

2013-07-12 Thread Ian Hickson
. Sure, some orientations might be better -- just like the HTML spec is more readable on a taller large screen than on a landscape phone screen -- but if the user wants to play the other way, it seems wrong to be able to prevent it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Resource loading in browsing context-less Documents

2013-07-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/19/12 12:55 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/19/12 12:37 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Yes, just not an active one. OK. I don't think we want to activate links in unloaded documents, personally

Re: [whatwg] Adding features needed for WebGL to ImageBitmap

2013-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
the same thing here? I'm confused. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Adding features needed for WebGL to ImageBitmap

2013-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
that represents images that are going to be used in WebGL calls. Such a primitive could use the same sources for images as ImageBitmap, but would be specifically for use with WebGL, in the same way that ImageBitmap is used just by the 2D Canvas API. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Adding features needed for WebGL to ImageBitmap

2013-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
will be desired even for the 2D canvas use case, and having the dictionary already specified will make that easier. There is no need to invent a new primitive and means of loading it. If options make sense for 2D canvas, then having ImageBitmap options would make sense, sure. -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Enabling LCD Text and antialiasing in canvas

2013-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Adam Barth wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Justin Novosad wrote: For many types of apps, DOM-based rendering is uncompetitively slow [so we should make text rendering in canvas more controllable

[whatwg] Script preloading

2013-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
whenneeded=download or something.) Is there something this doesn't handle which it would need to handle? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] [Canvas][WebIDL] Canvas .addText takes NoInterfaceObject argument

2013-07-03 Thread Ian Hickson
is undefined, basically. It doesn't affect anything else. addText, as an example, takes any object that implements the CanvasDrawingStyle interface. That would include any DrawingStyle object and any CanvasRenderingContext2D object, at first glance. Boris is correct. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Another issue in 12.2.5.5 parsing tokens in foreign content

2013-07-03 Thread Ian Hickson
. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Another issue in 12.2.5.5 parsing tokens in foreign content

2013-07-02 Thread Ian Hickson
of the spec seems to be drifting in a random walk away from reality. We can study this further and try suggesting some text based on what we have implemented so far. Well, when it started it wasn't reality at all, since there was no foreign content support in text/html. :-) -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Namespaces and tag names in the HTML parser

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
. It _always_ refers to in the HTML namespace except where the contrary is explicitly stated (which is relatively rare). On Thu, 30 May 2013, Rafael Weinstein wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Well, as noted in the bug, I don't think we should check

Re: [whatwg] Question on Limits in Adaption Agency Algorithm

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
trouble, you might want to run your content through some sort of pre-processor that re-writes these cases into valid HTML, which should get parsed in intuitive ways by user agents. On Sat, 8 Dec 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: Yeah that's definitely not intentional. Does anyone have any preference

Re: [whatwg] Tokenizor PseudoCode

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
should make this clear. There's a number of places in the tree construction stage that change the tokenizer state, in particular, the parsing for these elements: title, noscript, noframes, style, xmp, iframe, noembed, script, plaintext, textarea. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Attribute value (double-quoted) state

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
(so you would first find the closing `` and then re-parse the value to look for character references since you skipped that in the first pass). I've tried to clarify this. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Requiring the Encoding Standard preferred name is too strict for no good reason

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
the above context, do you still think we should make ISO-8859-1 unconditionally valid? If it is, I'll change the various places in the spec that refer to encoding names to also allow any of the encoding labels. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 is broken: menuitem causes infinite loop

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
. This was an error that resulted when I renamed command (which was allowed in head) to menuitem (which is not). I apparently did a poor job of correcting the parsing. Fixed (it's now only mentioned in body). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] Another issue in 12.2.5.5 parsing tokens in foreign content

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
this should be resolved now. Let me know if it's not. (No, I don't know what I had originally intended.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Question about DOMImplementation.createHTMLDocument() specifications

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
-mode - However the document object has already been built at this stage and is an HTML document, thus created by DOMImplementation.createHTMLDocument(). The document is expected to be created by the implementation directly, not using DOMImplementation.createHTMLDocument(). HTH, -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] adjusted current node in 12.2.5.5

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
the current node in the fragment parsing case is still html, this will not have the desired effect. Should this section be changed to refer to the adjusted current node? Yep. I hadn't thought of those problems. Fixed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Spec ambiguity and Firefox bug for newlines following pre and textarea

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
or as bugs. I just happen to deal with them in batches, and for the first half of this year I've been focusing on bugs. Filing both just means one of the two is going to get a confused I thought we fixed this response, or something like the above (I fixed this at some point...). :-) -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Html5 Parser Tree Construction Stage

2013-07-01 Thread Ian Hickson
. There's some introductory text before the insertion modes. I would be happy to add more -- have you had any luck understanding it better? Do you know what would have been most helpful to get you off the ground faster? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL

Re: [whatwg] Proposal:Improve internationalization in the autocomplete attribute

2013-06-20 Thread Ian Hickson
me know if it's still ambiguous. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] @aria-labelledby | Re: @generator-unable-to-provide-required-alt, figure with figcaption

2013-06-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Martin Janecke wrote: Am 17.06.2013 um 22:58 schrieb Ian Hickson: On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Martin Janecke wrote: Am 17.06.2013 um 11:35 schrieb Steve Faulkner: the restriction on figure/figcaption is only in the whawtg spec not the W3C HTML spec as it was not deemed

Re: [whatwg] @aria-labelledby | Re: @generator-unable-to-provide-required-alt, figure with figcaption

2013-06-17 Thread Ian Hickson
markup should be, though. On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote: Am 07.06.2013 um 23:13 schrieb Ian Hickson: img src=... title=image If you have a caption from the user (as opposed to replacement text), then this is a perfectly valid option. It's as valid as the figure

Re: [whatwg] Proposal:Improve internationalization in the autocomplete attribute

2013-06-17 Thread Ian Hickson
, in any region. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal:Improve internationalization in the autocomplete attribute

2013-06-17 Thread Ian Hickson
left the fields in for now. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Adding 2D Canvas features (Was: Grouping in canvas 2d)

2013-06-14 Thread Ian Hickson
priority ones. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Request: Implementing a Geo Location URI Scheme

2013-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
been on the whitelist since last October. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] @generator-unable-to-provide-required-alt, figure with figcaption

2013-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
agents will try to automatically figure out what the alternative text should be (since one is already provided). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] font security on measureText

2013-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
on the WHATWG list -- just one or the other is fine. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] inputmode attribute

2013-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] inputmode feedback

2013-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
, even radical changes, to this part of the spec, if they make sense. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] HTML Namespace Elements

2013-05-29 Thread Ian Hickson
if the current node is an element whose namespace (as given e.g. by the element's Element object's namespaceURI IDL attribute) is the string http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

[whatwg] Namespaces and tag names in the HTML parser

2013-05-29 Thread Ian Hickson
want to do? It's not what you (Adam) implemented, as I understand it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Spec ambiguity and Firefox bug for newlines followingpre and textarea

2013-05-28 Thread Ian Hickson
not give rationale when dealing with it.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Pull requests for HTML5 spec?

2013-05-28 Thread Ian Hickson
, which usually takes just as long as writing it in the first place. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] links within an iframe cannot replace the parent document?

2013-05-28 Thread Ian Hickson
an iframe. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] Proposal isPointInStroke(x, y)

2013-05-03 Thread Ian Hickson
. It was easily implemented on top of Direct2D, Cairo, Skia, and CoreGraphics and shouldn't be difficult for other systems. We implemented this to help support functionality needed for shumway (flash on html) Thanks for the heads-up. This is now in the spec as well. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: API to ask the user for a file

2013-04-29 Thread Ian Hickson
account details) and then trick the user into uploading it by asking the user to Select the file you want to protect from uploading or For debugging purposes, select the newest file in this directory, which is a log file we just generated. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

[whatwg] fillRule changes

2013-04-25 Thread Ian Hickson
added a fillRule argument to the HitRegionOptions dict. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Comments on dialog

2013-04-22 Thread Ian Hickson
that, but the usual use case for seamless iframes is something like blog comments, so it's not clear that there's a use case for dialogs there. If there was to be one, we could consider it. It sounds like a lot of work to do if there's not a compelling need though. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] iframe srcdoc definition not compatible with existing user-agent user interfaces

2013-04-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 4/8/13 1:20 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: If a browser can cache the data for a frame based on which frame it is rather than just its URL In Gecko's case, say, it's cached based on URL and a sequence number (to handle POST). Why does the test I

Re: [whatwg] iframe srcdoc definition not compatible with existing user-agent user interfaces

2013-04-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 4/7/13 9:52 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: The way iframe srcdoc is defined, the document URI does not in any way encode the document contents. This is the same as HTTP URLs where the server returns different content each time No, because

Re: [whatwg] Notifications: in workers

2013-04-03 Thread Ian Hickson
are getting _quite_ rich indeed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Allowing authors to obtain a vertical input type=range

2013-03-29 Thread Ian Hickson
anyone would ever want a tall horizontal slider. If you're making proprietary pseudo-elements for parts of the slider while waiting for Web Components to be ready to do this, just have different pseudos for the two orientations. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Allowing authors to obtain a vertical input type=range

2013-03-29 Thread Ian Hickson
and let the author opt-in to vertical with the attribute. No, auto is not useful in practice. We had this in jQuery UI and removed it four years ago because it was a bad idea. Why is it a bad idea? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Question about document.referrer (and document.URL, document.location.href) when IDN domains are in use

2013-03-21 Thread Ian Hickson
that. Try now. I'll leave your e-mail in my pile to make sure I deal with the remaining issues you mentioned, though. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r7749 - [giow] (3) make ruby reset text-indent for sanity's sake (like with table) Fix [...]

2013-03-13 Thread Ian Hickson
. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Enabling LCD Text and antialiasing in canvas

2013-03-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Stephen White wrote: As an example, the darker compositing mode was removed from the spec due to hardware-accelerated performance concerns, IIRC. 'darker' was removed because it wasn't defined anywhere so couldn't be implemented interoperably. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] HTML Specification update request: bug 20939

2013-03-08 Thread Ian Hickson
. I'll get there eventually. Sorry for the delay, I have a lot of backlog and a lot of it is really subtle complicated stuff that's taking a long time to carefully consider. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] We should not throw DOM Consistency and Infoset compatibility under the bus

2013-03-06 Thread Ian Hickson
way, script src is mutable, it's just that it's only read at one point in the script processing model and it's the value at that point that matters. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Why are we merging Document and HTMLDocument again?

2013-03-05 Thread Ian Hickson
with individual methods is a separate story. I'd be fine with having a Document descendant that is used for Documents that have global scopes / browsing contexts / the works, and one that is used for Documents that don't (e.g. createDocument(), XHR); would that address this issue? -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Fetch: networking tasks

2013-03-04 Thread Ian Hickson
things, seach for is the networking task source in the HTML spec. e.g. update the session history with the new page uses it. Basically, anything that needs to be ordered relative to network activity rather than DOM activity. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Cross-origin iframe and @sandbox=allow-same-origin

2013-02-25 Thread Ian Hickson
a page and a cross-origin iframe further connected than they are currently without the keyword? The only difference is that without the keyword, the content is in a unique origin, and with it, its origin is left as normal. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] inputmode feedback

2013-02-22 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Why is name not an input type? There's a section that discusses it a bit: http://whatwg.org/html#the-difference-between-the-field-type,-the-autofill-field-name,-and-the-input-modality -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: Fonts in workers

2013-02-21 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, Jonas Sicking wrote: We could possibly still use the the FontLoader interface if we do the following: * FontLoader needs to drop the dependency

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: Fonts in workers

2013-02-20 Thread Ian Hickson
state, and workers try to avoid shared state as a design principle.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Sandboxed IFrames and downloads.

2013-02-15 Thread Ian Hickson
with substantive feedback (such as yours) sent to this list will eventually get a response. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Is main now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-14 Thread Ian Hickson
. Agreed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Is main now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Hickson
: http://whatwg.org/html#the-main-part-of-the-content http://whatwg.org/html#the-main-element http://whatwg.org/html#usage-summary-0 http://whatwg.org/html#sample-outlines -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Is main now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Hickson
. a sidebar. The other is just a container for the dominant contents of an element. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Is main now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Hickson
for the ARIA list; this list is the wrong place to discuss ARIA. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] More stepUp() and stepDown() comments (was: Re: Forms-related feedback)

2013-01-30 Thread Ian Hickson
to out-of-range values so we can study how existing UIs handle this? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] More stepUp() and stepDown() comments (was: Re: Forms-related feedback)

2013-01-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Ian Hickson wrote: Mounir and I discussed this on IRC, but we didn't have enough data to come to a conclusion. [...] Does anyone have any examples of UIs that give page up and page down controls to change values that can also be set to out-of-range values so we

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Constructor should not have side effects

2013-01-29 Thread Ian Hickson
for it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Constructor should not have side effects

2013-01-29 Thread Ian Hickson
primary actions from instantiations? This is easy to do. Just return a function that creates the notification, instead of returning a non-shown notification object. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Constructor should not have side effects

2013-01-29 Thread Ian Hickson
that logic then new HTMLDivElement should append itself into the document by default. A more apt example would be the way audio, when constructed with a URL, immediately starts loading it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] proposal: Add support for masking to canvas

2013-01-29 Thread Ian Hickson
the values are optional; the reason to make something nullable is just to allow the null value, not to make it optional. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible

Re: [whatwg] proposal: Add support for masking to canvas

2013-01-29 Thread Ian Hickson
to catch this particular bug, by the way.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-25 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 19 January 2013 01:41, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I don't see any useful explanation of how to use aria-haspopup here. suggest you look at definition of aria-haspopup in the ARIA spec That's what I looked at before this conversation began

Re: [whatwg] Implementation issue: step mismatch handling for input type=range

2013-01-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, L. David Baron wrote: On Thursday 2013-01-17 20:13 +, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Jonathan Watt wrote: If the step base considered the 'minimum' instead of the 'min' content attribute, then the step base would be zero, and thus the value would

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 17 January 2013 18:59, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: How does the user agent know how the user is to interact with it? menus like most controls have a defined standard interaction pattern Doesn't it differ from platform to platform? How

Re: [whatwg] Forms-related feedback

2013-01-18 Thread Ian Hickson
. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 18 January 2013 23:55, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Doesn't it differ from platform to platform? How is the author supposed to know what it is on the user's platform? There are some platform differences for some controls. Design patterns

Re: [whatwg] Entity definitions in XHTML

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Hickson
these magic strings than adding more. If there's a compatibility need, then we should add it, but if the browsers don't already support the string, then there's no compat need that I can see. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Hickson
with it? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Implementation issue: step mismatch handling for input type=range

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Hickson
unlikely to make sense, because it would mean the value the author set was an invalid value. You shouldn't be forced to specify the minimum if you're already specifying a step and a value and the default minimum of zero is adequate. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Confusing text relating to input type=range

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Hickson
just a parenthetical observation that if the min attribute's value is an integer and the default value of 1 for step is being used, then the input's value can only have integer values. (This is unclear because the input's value isn't otherwise mentioned in the sentence.) Clarified. -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Make the files attribute of the input element writable

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Victor Costan wrote: On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Victor Costan wrote: There was a thread on this mailing list discussing making it possible to set the file data behind an input type=file element. http

[whatwg] Magic alignment issues

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Hickson
, and while B doesn't have a box, A isn't anchored and is interpreted as a normal abspos box.) How should I change the spec to not be badly designed here? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Entity definitions in XHTML

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Hickson
discourages people from using DTDs in general, because of precisely the kinds of issues that are being discussed here, but the XML spec allows it, and that's what controls this at the end of the day (especially in the case of software that isn't using the HTML spec's catalogue). -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Forms-related feedback

2013-01-15 Thread Ian Hickson
on the backend. That's not the same as type=datetime-local with an optional timezone selector. In fact it's the precise key difference between datetime-local and datetime. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Forms-related feedback

2013-01-15 Thread Ian Hickson
to be pushed with minimal notice, which is unlikely, and Web authors around the world would have to coordinate updates to their sites in parallel with the browsers updating, etc. It would be a nightmare. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] Forms-related feedback

2013-01-13 Thread Ian Hickson
differences, IMHO, would be just accessible from (e.g.) a context menu (to allow the user to actually pick a time zone). Google Calendar's event editor page has a pretty good type=datetime widget (though in their case it has two widgets combined into one, for start and end). -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] We should not throw DOM Consistency and Infoset compatibility under the bus

2013-01-11 Thread Ian Hickson
UAs like spiders. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Sentence structure

2013-01-11 Thread Ian Hickson
, but I've no idea what you're saying here. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Sentence structure

2013-01-10 Thread Ian Hickson
this problem. Since the use cases do not currently support adding an element for this purpose, I have not added the element to the language. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Sentence structure

2013-01-10 Thread Ian Hickson
and browser vendors be the judges of that. :-) The CSS spec is discussed on the www-st...@w3.org list. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Sentence structure

2013-01-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013, Thomas A. Fine wrote: On 1/10/13 11:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: I don't know if the use cases justify adding a feature to CSS, but I'll let the CSS editors and browser vendors be the judges of that. :-) The CSS spec is discussed on the www-st...@w3.org list

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Hickson
it looks like after the commit the buffer is cleared, please do let me know. Would still love input from any other vendors, too. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Script-related feedback

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Hickson
it like the plague seems like the more appropriate lesson. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, James Robinson wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Stephen White wrote: Right now by 2d canvases are effectively single buffered. At the appropriate time a copy of the canvas is made and passed

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Hickson
it to just hook all of them at once, providing the algorithm for each of the above four interfaces, just like we do now for direct accesses. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Adam Barth wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Adam Barth wrote: The Document interface (which is what we started this thread discussing) is never visible across origins and so does not have any

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Hickson
not a big deal to not have the security check as far as I can tell. So if we can just return null instead, it would allow us to remove those checks. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Hickson
. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Hickson
more buy-in. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Registration points for elements

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Hickson
; } -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013, Gregg Tavares wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, Gregg Tavares (社ç~T¨) wrote: discussion seems to have died down here but I'd like to bring up another issue In WebGL land we have creation attributes

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Hickson
the main reason for having a different mechanism (setContext). Anyway, I don't really understand what's wrong with the proposal that addresses all the problems that have been raised at once. I don't see a need to do this bit by bit when we've already got a full solution. -- Ian Hickson

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