Re: [whatwg] [canvas] inner shadows

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
my e-mail just now. Is this something implementors would be interested in? It seems like this would be easy for them to implement... That's not really the question. :-) There's a cost to every feature. We have to prioritise. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] inner shadows

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Rik Cabanier wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Rik Cabanier wrote: It would still be quite complex to draw an inner shadow this way because the blur is calculated on the inverse of the shape. A user

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] inner shadows

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
, and then set the fill to black (or anything completely opaque). It's even easier with the new Path primitives since you can construct a combined path by stroking them all into one. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] inner shadows

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Rik Cabanier wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Rik Cabanier wrote: Turns out it's relatively easy to do today in canvas; after you've drawn your shape and filled it, just add the following code

Re: [whatwg] Checkboxes that control other checkboxes

2012-11-21 Thread Ian Hickson
, are the dependent fields always in a fieldset? Are they always other checkboxes? Is there more complex logic than just check box A is checked so those controls are enabled? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] restricted palette for input type=color

2012-11-21 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 3 May 2012, Markus Ernst wrote: Am 03.05.2012 00:50 schrieb Ian Hickson: On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Markus Ernst wrote: A content management or blog system for a corporate website allows to set font and background colors. The designers define allowed color sets the way

Re: [whatwg] 'datetime-local' and 'datetime' comments

2012-11-21 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 20/11/12 06:17, Ian Hickson wrote: FWIW, the UI I'd expect for today's datetime, maybe renamed to datetime-global, would be a date/time picker that works just like the one without a timezone, except that it then converts the time you give

Re: [whatwg] Location object identity and navigation behavior

2012-11-20 Thread Ian Hickson
are they both on the stack? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Font Resize Event

2012-11-20 Thread Ian Hickson
recommend approaching the CSS working group at www-st...@w3.org with the idea. (The WHATWG specs currently don't cover this area of the Web platform.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

[whatwg] Forms-related feedback

2012-11-20 Thread Ian Hickson
.. However lack of selection API looks a defect to me. Why does the page need to touch the selection? On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Mikko Rantalainen wrote: 2012-09-07 07:35 Europe/Helsinki: Ian Hickson: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: I think while in theory we could rely on UAs to enable

Re: [whatwg] Make stepUp() and stepDown() more developer-friendly

2012-11-20 Thread Ian Hickson
that?) but for the latter case I don't really see any point doing anything but throw an exception, as Mounir suggested. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Autocomplete and autofill features and feedback thereon

2012-11-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Ilya Sherman wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: So we could define the autocomplete= field's value as follows: [...] I've now specced this, with some minor changes. My only high

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on Web Worker specification

2012-11-20 Thread Ian Hickson
. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Use of article to identify the main content of a web page

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Ian Yang wrote: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ian Yang wrote: That's a good idea. We really need an element to wrap all the ps, uls, ols, figures, tables ... etc of a blog post. That's called article

Re: [whatwg] Location object identity and navigation behavior

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Hickson
to me. If the spec's description can't be implemented, then it's something that should be fixed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Spec for location object needs to make some properties unforgeable; need supporting WebIDL changes

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Hickson
unforgeable. It seems like it needs to. I'm going to assume heycam is going to add an interface-level [Unforgeable] annotation that does this. https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20008 I've updated HTML accordingly. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: location.parentOrigin

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Hickson
that returns a static DOMStringList with the origins of the ancestor browsing contexts in reverse order (top-level browsing context last, parent browsing context first). It doesn't respect sandboxing. Are other browser vendors interested in implementing this? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] 'datetime-local' and 'datetime' comments

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Hickson
timezones, which I think will overall be rarer, having the longer name. I agree that existing UIs are unfortunate, but they should be fixed. It would be unfortunate to push people towards the timezone-less control just because we screwed up the UI and then renamed the type in shame. -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Location object identity and navigation behavior

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 11/19/12 8:38 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: For now I've tightened up the spec so it should be implementable, secure, and Web-compatible I don't believe it's secure as currently written, actually. Filed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi

Re: [whatwg] Use of article to identify the main content of a web page

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Hickson
of a blog post. Semantics for the sake of semantics is not a use case. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Document.setCapture/releaseCapture

2012-11-16 Thread Ian Hickson
events at all, let alone setCapture(). I agree that we should. Just needs an editor with a lot of time, really. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a debugging information API

2012-11-16 Thread Ian Hickson
into thinking they're a perfectly honest game developer and causing you to eagerly send them all the sensitive information they want. These are not hypothetical concerns. Over the last few years, targetted attacks of this nature have become much more common and are a real threat. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2012-11-16 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Rick Waldron wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: var proxy = canvas.transferControlToProxy()); bikeshed Proxy with a capital P is an API in ES6 for creating Proxy objects. While I recognize that this is obviously just

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2012-11-16 Thread Ian Hickson
(or at least canvas-like) APIs available in workers it turned into a spec for rotating and scaling images (which i still don't fully understand). Yeah, this is intended to make that kind of thing unnecessary. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2012-11-16 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Rick Waldron wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Rick Waldron wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: var proxy = canvas.transferControlToProxy()); bikeshed

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a debugging information API

2012-11-16 Thread Ian Hickson
sandbox should be. I'd rather not force you to re-have a discussion I'm sure you've had far too many times :-) I don't think there's anything formally written down. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [URL] DOM API Feedback

2012-11-14 Thread Ian Hickson
. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a debugging information API

2012-11-14 Thread Ian Hickson
://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#Is_there_a_process_for_adding_new_features_to_a_specification.3F -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Including

2012-11-13 Thread Ian Hickson
the site's own scripts. What else is it intended to be used by? So, what's the appropriate thing to do here? Keep on using hx:include (after all, it works)? use data-include or similar? Or? Appropriate in what sense? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL

Re: [whatwg] hidden= should be display:none !important in the UA stylesheet

2012-11-13 Thread Ian Hickson
unexpectedly because orthogonal decisions are being cascaded together.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Including

2012-11-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Mark Nottingham wrote: On 14/11/2012, at 4:37 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, Mark Nottingham wrote: (For what it's worth, inclusion in HTML is done using iframe seamless.) Ah. Does that work with older browsers (from the 2005 era

Re: [whatwg] hidden= should be display:none !important in the UA stylesheet

2012-11-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, Glenn Maynard wrote: k On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: You just have to write .thing:not([hidden]), or have an explicit [hidden] rule. It's not a big deal. This is a cumbersome, hackish workaround. To be honest, in practice I

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Review requested on MIME Sniffing Standard

2012-11-12 Thread Ian Hickson
anyway and ignore the spec; we gain nothing by making it non-conforming to have a timeout. What are the use cases for ‘Sniffing archives specifically’? No idea. I only included it for completeness. Please don't spec things for completeness without use cases. :-) -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Review requested on MIME Sniffing Standard

2012-11-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Gordon P. Hemsley wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Gordon P. Hemsley wrote: But if everyone vows to just wait for 512 bytes (or EOF), then that's fine with me. I don't think we should require tools

Re: [whatwg] New CSS Properties

2012-11-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012, Joshua Smith wrote: I would like to suggest a few things to add to the CSS specifications. For CSS changes, please use the www-st...@w3.org mailing list. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt main, and main element parsing behaviour

2012-11-07 Thread Ian Hickson
to having one at all actually ended up being, at least relative to what I was expecting, I think adding new elements isn't a big deal at all. (Even in the head.) We shouldn't add elements in general, but that's more about not expanding the language, not about the parser. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt main

2012-11-07 Thread Ian Hickson
, a.permalink/footer /article Exactly like that (or even without the class, if you just have one per article you can just do article div to select it). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Proposals for better support of Tables

2012-11-06 Thread Ian Hickson
and is defined to work as you'd expect. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Sortable Tables

2012-11-06 Thread Ian Hickson
the definite interest of some browser implementors. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Declarative Inert DOM (e.g. the template element)

2012-11-02 Thread Ian Hickson
whatever parser changes end up getting implemented by multiple browsers (or that multiple browsers say they plan to implement, depending on when I next get to this particular topic) based on the work of Rafael and Tony above. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Meta bugreport proposal

2012-10-31 Thread Ian Hickson
easier to push it into a spec. See also: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#Is_there_a_process_for_adding_new_features_to_a_specification.3F On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Julian Reschke wrote: link, not meta. Indeed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for window.DocumentType.prototype.toString

2012-10-31 Thread Ian Hickson
study of DocumentType refdocs to tease out. Can you elaborate on that? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for window.DocumentType.prototype.toString

2012-10-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Johan Sundström wrote: On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 at 15:02 , Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012, Johan Sundström wrote: That said, I would still much enjoy a future where javascript:alert(document.doctype) would tell you something rich about the page

Re: [whatwg] URL: query encoding

2012-10-30 Thread Ian Hickson
if it's scheme-specific in the constructor can't be answered.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for window.DocumentType.prototype.toString

2012-10-29 Thread Ian Hickson
; a better solution to which has since been worked on in public-webapps. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Real-time thread support for workers

2012-10-26 Thread Ian Hickson
effect). This is non-trivial to specify, but wouldn't run the risk of hostile sites harming the user. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-24 Thread Ian Hickson
without updating the HTML file) more often, much more often, than the checksum will catch an error. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Tracks and cues

2012-10-24 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012, Cyril Concolato wrote: Le 10/18/2012 9:59 PM, Ian Hickson a écrit : On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: If we are very clear about what will be in the cues and that it will always be just SVG, we could just create a @kind=svg. IMHO the idea of putting

Re: [whatwg] Spec for location object needs to make some properties unforgeable; need supporting WebIDL changes

2012-10-23 Thread Ian Hickson
a valueOf and make just that, the toString serializer, and href unforgeable? Something else? Incidentally there's also a request to mark the 'location' attribute itself (on Document, presumably also the one on Window) unforgeable: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19560 -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Which html5 features should replace plugins like flash

2012-10-23 Thread Ian Hickson
for why I did not focus on fx websockets, geolocation or other nice html5 things. We didn't really pay much attention to Flash at all, to be honest. However, I understand that a lot of features now in the Web platform as standards do cover very similar ground to what Flash can do. -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Modal Dialog Focus

2012-10-22 Thread Ian Hickson
focusable element if no element with autofocus exists. If there is still no control element, I would expect the dialog itself to receive focus. The first focusable element is the body element, effectively. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] Proposal for supportsContext

2012-10-22 Thread Ian Hickson
GPU after some idle time. That does seem like a somewhat better implementation strategy, if viable, but doesn't preclude the supportsContext() feature. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] Proposal for supportsContext

2012-10-22 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: If you really want to protect users from the behavior of pages, you'd really need to make creating the context cheap. For example, don't switch to a high-power GPU until

Re: [whatwg] Submitting contentEditable Content In A Form

2012-10-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Incidentally, it seems to use a WebKit-specific plaintext-only value. Should we spec that? Aryeh? It's filed as: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14554

Re: [whatwg] Character-encoding-related threads

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
-work/#the-title-element That isn't what that says. Please make sure never to read between the lines when reading a specification. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2006Nov/thread.html#msg233 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2007Jul/0049.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2008Dec/0376.html (in the third one, search for fingerprint.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Character-encoding-related threads

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-10-19 19:33, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: Are there any situations that this doesn't handle where it would be legitimate to omit a title element? Perhaps the simplest case is an HTML

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
sense of security. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Should scrollbars move focus?

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
the correct behavior here? It would be best if all the browsers could be consistent, but I'm not sure the existing common behavior is best. :) From the spec's point of view, I think this is just something where you're supposed to try to match the host platform conventions. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] maincontent element spec updated and supporting data provided

2012-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
the element essentially unusable, IMHO. But that's academic, since the element has no useful purpose, isn't necessary, and is thus not part of HTML. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

[whatwg] Feedback on HTML elements

2012-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Ian Yang wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Ian Yang wrote: But your opinion does remind me of the small element. That element is a perfect example of introducing and using an element simply for its

[whatwg] Tracks and cues

2012-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
) where the text is not only one cue (like in the TextTrackCue ctor) but where the text would be multiple cues as written in a WebVTT file? Just use a track element to point to the file. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U

[whatwg] Canvas hit regions feedback

2012-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
, but then they're screwed anyway since not everything that's interactive is focusable even at the best of times. :-( (I speak as one such user.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Character-encoding-related threads

2012-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-06-29 23:42, Ian Hickson wrote: Currently you need a DOCTYPE, a character encoding declaration, a title, and some content. I'd love to be in a position where the empty string would be a valid document, personally. Is content really

Re: [whatwg] maincontent element spec updated and supporting data provided

2012-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
), etc. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Separating intrinsic sizing out from the iframe seamless attribute

2012-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
the actual use case? i.e. why do you want to embed SVG as a document? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Why won't you let us make our own HTML5 browsers?

2012-10-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Fred Andrews wrote: From: i...@hixie.ch On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Mark Callow wrote: On 08/06/2012 06:09, Ian Hickson wrote: The dire warning doesn't work. I'm just saying that's the direction that operating system vendors have been going in; that disallowing

Re: [whatwg] Submitting contentEditable Content In A Form

2012-10-17 Thread Ian Hickson
callbacks, which is always unfortunate, but I don't see an alternative here. Especially since grabbing data asynchronously is always risky. This is something else that just already works with input type=hidden. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Should editable elements have placeholder attribute?

2012-10-17 Thread Ian Hickson
: *[contenteditable=true i], *[contenteditable=] { empty-collapse: no-collapse } I'm happy to add that to the default style sheet if CSS had such a property; anyone want to spec it? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Usability issues with input type=url validation

2012-10-17 Thread Ian Hickson
there is absolutely no way I can use this validation as it stands, the potential for a poor user experience is just too evident. The spec expects browsers to convert www.example.com to http://www.example.com/; automatically so that this kind of issue doesn't occur. -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] Submitting contentEditable Content In A Form -- also in SVG and audio contexts

2012-10-17 Thread Ian Hickson
anything specific in mind that isn't consistent in this way? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 should include a way to create custom page header footer for printing.

2012-10-15 Thread Ian Hickson
elements into particular boxes. (No idea if this is planned yet.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Mark Callow wrote: On 2012/10/10 12:29, Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Mark Callow wrote: I don't know what the browser on the SH-10D is doing, (It's running Android 4.0) but, given the physical size (4.5), if they were making the css pixels smaller

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-11 Thread Ian Hickson
://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/0247.html -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Mathew Marquis wrote: On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Markus Ernst wrote: IMHO as an author, the bandwidth use case is not solved in a future proof manner It's not solved at all. I didn't attempt to solve

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-10 Thread Ian Hickson
better to wait until we have real problems before fixing them. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Control and Undefined Characters

2012-10-10 Thread Ian Hickson
API, or the JS string API, and it seems to get through all of those fine.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Control and Undefined Characters

2012-10-10 Thread Ian Hickson
for documents, yes. This section in the intro talks about this issue: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/introduction.html#how-to-read-this-specification HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] Path object

2012-10-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: We could only change Path, since the others are already deployed. We could add new constructors, but that would just be new redundancy, and thus probably isn't worth it. FWIW

Re: [whatwg] Null characters

2012-10-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Cameron Zemek wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Cameron Zemek wrote: I noticed the specification usually treats null characters U+ by replacing them with the replacement character U+FFFD . The other

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Mark Callow wrote: On 2012/10/06 7:09, Ian Hickson wrote: I agree, when there's 3x displays, this could get to the point where we need to solve it. :-) With the current displays, it's just not that big a deal, IMHO. If by 3x you mean displays whose dpi is 3x

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] Path object

2012-10-08 Thread Ian Hickson
of XHTML pages served as XML I found a few years ago in Google's index), but still pretty small. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Null characters

2012-10-08 Thread Ian Hickson
/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1824 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Resource loading in browsing context-less Documents

2012-10-05 Thread Ian Hickson
change, no? E.g. then you would also change a.click() be a no-op I suppose? Or form.submit(). Not just img.src has side effects. The spec currently describes this as Rafael suggests (if the Document has a browsing context, networking works, otherwise it doesn't). -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-05 Thread Ian Hickson
, 7 Sep 2012, Markus Ernst wrote: I'd like to revive Florian Rivoal's (and my) suggestion of using picture for [...] Multiple-element solutions really are non-viable, IMHO. Search for multple-element in: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Aug/0070.html -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] Path object

2012-10-03 Thread Ian Hickson
as facts. Thanks. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-10-02 Thread Ian Hickson
context. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-10-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, James Graham wrote: On 10/02/2012 02:34 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 10/1/12 6:10 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 6/19/12 1:56 PM, Charlie Reis wrote: That's from the [if] the user agent determines that the two browsing

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-10-01 Thread Ian Hickson
). It would also benefit from severing all ties to the opened window. There's still a real link in this case, though, no? So you can call .click() on it. (Or use accesskey=...) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-10-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 1 Oct 2012, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: + have the new page be in a new browsing context ...it's a new browsing context (e.g. target=_blank). I'm not very familiar with the browsing context concept: what's

Re: [whatwg] URL: javascript URLs

2012-09-28 Thread Ian Hickson
. This is specced, though it might not be right. I haven't checked recently. 7) Handling of the return value of the script. I believe this is specced. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] URL: javascript URLs

2012-09-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 9/28/12 2:26 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: 5) What happens when this doesn't match the origin or effective script origin or whatever of the global object the script is evaluating against. I think this is specced. Can you elaborate

[whatwg] Elements feedback

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Hickson
Guiney wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Also, as I pointed out in the original post, consumers already use rel=tag intending for it to apply only to portions of a page. Consumers or producers? What matters here is not changing _consumer_ behaviour, so

Re: [whatwg] New URL Standard

2012-09-25 Thread Ian Hickson
renderers will be stuck with heuristics for some time to come. (Maybe even heuristics that involve actual DNS queries and HEAD requests to see if potential URLs are useful.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

[whatwg] Blending, filtering

2012-09-25 Thread Ian Hickson
ArrayBuffer, so we're pretty much there. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] New URL Standard

2012-09-25 Thread Ian Hickson
, and just not making it accessible. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Rename the 7-arg arcTo() to ellipseTo()?

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: So, can we rename the 7-arg arcTo to ellipseTo? That seems to support your always [require] all the arguments recommendation

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
is a need to support window.open(), I would like to understand it.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Rename the 7-arg arcTo() to ellipseTo()?

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
into a single function with a huge number of optional arguments. We're talking about SVG path syntax here, not methods. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Rename the 7-arg arcTo() to ellipseTo()?

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
coordinate, rather than just the latter. Could you elaborate on what exactly it is that is being done here? If there were some examples showing the problems that would really help. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

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