Re: [whatwg] multipart/form-data filename encoding: unicode and special characters

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
...etc. I'd be happy to advise if this is something that still interests you. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] multipart/form-data filename encoding: unicode and special characters

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, Julian Reschke wrote: I agree with the methodology. However I would suggest to simply revise RFC 2388. The precise details of the process of how it's done are up to whoever writes the spec text, they're not really relevant to this list. -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
will expect. We shouldn't require everyone using seamless iframes to have to set the body's margin to 0. Done. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] Sublties with seamless navigation

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#dom-location-href. It's already set explicitly, but it's set to its own nested browsing context, which is where the problem starts. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] iframe sandbox attribute

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 3/26/12 3:19 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Changing it to a string doesn't affect that, though, does it? Well, changing to a nullable string does affect it because doing something like this: myFrame.sandbox = myFrame.sandbox; is a no-op

Re: [whatwg] Additional attribute value for iframe sandbox

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] sandboxed documents and cookies

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
described in the specification is incorrect. Thanks, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] isPointInPath v. set of pixels in canvas hit regions

2012-07-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012, Charles Pritchard wrote: On Jul 5, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I think its up to the author to manage their set of paths appropriately, independently from the drawing operations. Having the drawing mechanism work in a tightly integrated

Re: [whatwg] isPointInPath v. set of pixels in canvas hit regions

2012-07-05 Thread Ian Hickson
. (Or you can do it using paths, sure. The effect is the same, but it's probably quicker to use a bitmap.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] isPointInPath v. set of pixels in canvas hit regions

2012-07-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012, Simon Fraser wrote: On Jul 5, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 5 Jul 2012, Edward O'Connor wrote: As things currently stand in the spec, implementations basically need to keep N+1 bitmaps per canvas, where N is the number of hit regions

Re: [whatwg] Specification of window.find()

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: So I guess we have to make a decision for the platform here. Do we want:  - To spec window.find() in all its historical glory, and have it   implemented everywhere

Re: [whatwg] HTMLForms: Implicit Submission with {display:none} button

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
, 24 May 2012, Rob Crowther wrote: On 22/02/12 00:35, Ian Hickson wrote: I've changed the spec to be clearer that CSS cannot be taken into account when determining the default. The default button is just always the first submit button in the form. What about the situation where there isn't

Re: [whatwg] media attribute of source element, default behavior on getting the property.

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
that [1] should return an empty string. Correct. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] source media attribute behavior, static or dynamic ?

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
layer, personally. I haven't changed the spec. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Security Issue- Iframe Sandbox attribute - Clarity of operation

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
of the context in which it's used: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/#sandbox Even with this, if you can do a man-in-the-middle attack, it provides with minimal to no protection. If you are concerned with MITM attacks, TLS is the right solution. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] HTMLForms: Implicit Submission with {display:none} button

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 6/29/12 5:24 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Let me know if it's not quite right. I wasn't sure exactly what weird things to test. I mostly relied on WebKit's (specifically Chrome's) behaviour here since they were apparently the ones most recently

Re: [whatwg] HTMLForms: Implicit Submission with {display:none} button

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
.) - http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#implicit-submission HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Drag and drop feedback

2012-06-28 Thread Ian Hickson
) { ... } As a result, the burden of such a change to well-behaved web developers should be minimal. Done. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Document's base URI should use the document's *current* address

2012-06-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Justin Lebar wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Justin Lebar wrote:  - It sets the document's current address to .../page.html#foo. Well, this is pretty bad.  document.location is the document's current

Re: [whatwg] Reconcile document.URL and document.documentURI?

2012-06-26 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:30:06 +0100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I moved document.URL to DOM Core, made document.documentURI readonly, and have them both return the same URL concept, which defaults to about:blank. They now always

[whatwg] The so-called 'magic iframe' feature

2012-06-22 Thread Ian Hickson
that let iframes survive even being moved around the same document. (I was unable to test Opera or IE, though.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] iframe srcdoc and Content-Security-Policy

2012-06-22 Thread Ian Hickson
,scriptalert(parent.document.cookie);/script/iframe'; ..., or: $username = 'iframe src=attacker-uploaded-file-without-csp.html/iframe'; ...? That is, why is srcdoc= special here? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] iframe srcdoc and Content-Security-Policy

2012-06-22 Thread Ian Hickson
and block it unless the policy contains 'unsafe-inline', but that seems less useful that just inheriting the CSP policy the same way we inherit the parent document's origin and title. Fair enough. I think this belongs in the CSP spec, though. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Canvas v5 API additions

2012-06-22 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Charles Pritchard wrote: On 3/28/2012 2:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Currently, authors can create a large canvas, and place it in a div: div style=overflow: hidden canvasThis can is larger than the div/canvas /div ... The idea here is to enable scroll

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:32:16 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: It's not more. But it still is. Even though images aren't required to load at all, you still recently changed the way they load

Re: [whatwg] runat (or server) attribute

2012-06-15 Thread Ian Hickson
implementors who are interested in doing this to get together and define an attribute which they then go and support. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] The set of supported @type values for script is a bit odd

2012-06-15 Thread Ian Hickson
lists. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Firing canplaythrough when caches/buffers are full

2012-06-15 Thread Ian Hickson
that. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] toDataURL() for image/video?

2012-06-15 Thread Ian Hickson
to do it.) Indeed. It's not clear that adding this new feature has a compelling need. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-14 Thread Ian Hickson
is as detailed as it can be here given the range of possible implementation strategies that we need to allow. Could you give a concrete example of what you are concerned about? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [Cross-document messaging] Restrictions on targetOrigin

2012-06-14 Thread Ian Hickson
that works. That's why it always throws SYNTAX_ERR for null origins. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r7128 - [giow] (2) Try to define img synchronous loading. Affected topics: HTML

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
. Currently it's extremely hard to follow. Anne and I plan to do so at some point but doing so would be a lot of work and we both have bigger fish to fry right now. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] readyState transitions when aborting a document

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
always involve firing DOMContentLoaded? Probably. Why? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] DOMContentLoaded, load and current document readiness

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 31 May 2011, Henri Sivonen wrote: Recently, there was discussion about changing media element state in the same task that fires the event about the state change so

Re: [whatwg] [media] played member expected behavior.

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Paul Adenot wrote: The played member [1] description of the media element states : The played attribute must return a new static normalized TimeRanges object that represents the ranges of the media resource, if any

Re: [whatwg] Should editable elements have placeholder attribute?

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
(); if ( !value || value == 'br' || value == 'pnbsp;br/p' || value == 'pbr/p' || value == 'pnbsp;/p' ) return true; Now there's a problem we should fix. Having five different representations of nothing seems like a terrible position for us to be in. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Allow empty string for input type=color

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
time, just like we will likely add support for more detailed range controls (e.g. that have a min and a max slider). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible

Re: [whatwg] Search-suggestions without scripting

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 7 May 2012, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: On 5/5/12, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Note that even in this space, though, it's not the end of the story. For example, Chrome does more than just list the search autocomplete results; it also loads the first suggestion in the background

Re: [whatwg] instantiating display:none plugins

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 8 May 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Robert O'Callahan wrote: One more thing. I added a hide and show plugin with flush test that sets the plugin to display:none, causes a layout flush

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 May 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2012 18:59:29 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: This is true, but as long as a few big browsers implement e.g. preload=none in a somewhat compatible way, it's hard to imagine

Re: [whatwg] Should a textarea outside of a document be immutable?

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
in those cases. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Detecting eventListeners

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
to catch that case by enumerating listeners. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Image cache behaviour

2012-06-11 Thread Ian Hickson
of the existing download instead of starting a new one. Right now I haven't specced anything like this. Ideally I'd like to move all the CSS logic out of the HTML spec, since e.g.I assume that any caching for link rel=styleseet would also need to happen for @import. -- Ian Hickson

[whatwg] Machine translation and related proposals

2012-06-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, Adam Barth wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, Adam Barth wrote: WebKit recently implemented http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#attr-translate, but that caused us to break orange.fr

[whatwg] Accept-Language DOM API proposal

2012-06-11 Thread Ian Hickson
to send all the UI strings, typically), so HTTP headers would be enough. However, I'd love to be proved wrong, so my recommendation would be to advocate this to browser vendors and see what they are willing to implement. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL

Re: [whatwg] Readiness of script-created documents

2012-06-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Jonas is correct. Since there was no interop here I figured we might as well go with what made sense. I'm somewhat unhappy about fixing IE-introduced APIs to make sense like

Re: [whatwg] 'Applicable Specifications'' Relevance Authors

2012-06-11 Thread Ian Hickson
accordingly. Let me know if you want even more of that section exposed to the author version. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Dialogs and prompts

2012-06-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: Note that dialog's model is FILO, while Darin was asking for FIFO. I'm not sure I understand when one would want to queue a dialog

Re: [whatwg] Can we deprecate alert(), confirm(), prompt() ?

2012-06-08 Thread Ian Hickson
like multiple alerts in a row, etc. Practically speaking, we can't stop supporting them. Lots of the Web rely on them. So there's no point deprecating them, it wouldn't change anything. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] window.close() and user-initiated a target=_blank

2012-06-08 Thread Ian Hickson
, with the restriction that WebKit has, namely that once the user navigates the newly opened browsing context (and gains a history), it can no longer be closed. Done. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Specify href target with HTTP headers

2012-06-08 Thread Ian Hickson
HTML page talking to a WebSocket server and without loading new HTML for each options page, for instance. So I don't know how much value there is in adding features to this kind of thing. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U

Re: [whatwg] Proposal to extend Microdata API specification

2012-06-08 Thread Ian Hickson
=a itemscope/div !-- two parents! -- ...so it's not obvious how to make this work. Can you elaborate on the use case? (You gave some sample markup but I couldn't work out what it was trying to do and why microdata would be the way to do it.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] a download feedback

2012-06-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: As Ian says above, if the user is savvy enough to right-click

Re: [whatwg] FileList usage

2012-06-08 Thread Ian Hickson
it seems controversial; I'd be happy to do so though if that is what the File API specs' editors want me to do. SQLResultSetRowList This is a WebKit-only feature now, it was dropped from the spec long ago. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] tabindexscope

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
player like this would be embedded using an iframe, which introduces a new tab order scope anyway; - Widgets in general will in the future be designed in self-contained components, which should IMHO be defined as a tab order scope -- we don't need an attribute in HTML to support that. -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Why won't you let us make our own HTML5 browsers?

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Bronislav Klu�~Mka wrote: On 1.2.2012 1:36, Ian Hickson wrote: I am not interested in the argument that It is just too dangerous. Browsers already allow people to download executables with a couple clicks, not to mention install privileged browser add-ons

Re: [whatwg] Browser-as-Desktop: Widgets in the browser

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
describe, e.g. Apple's Dashboard widgets can be built from arbitrary snippets of Web pages, and even before that, Microsoft's ActiveDesktop feature allowed widgets made from Web pages to be embedded on the desktop or in Windows shell bars. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] should we add beforeload/afterload events to the web platform?

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 4 Feb 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 2/3/12 11:15 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: I agree with you that if the author is using HTTP styles on their HTTPS page that an attacker could screw with the page. But my point is that fixing that is easy: just move the styles to HTTPS. In the case

Re: [whatwg] Allow Fallback Text to Render Section Titles in Outlines

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
haven't checked if the SVG spec is as detailed about that case. In other words, this seems to be a bug in your outliner programs. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Caching of identical files from different URLs using checksums

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
a solution along these lines. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: In short, I agree that if the implementation cost was high here that we could compromise on this design and go with something less clean or with less graceful fallback, because

Re: [whatwg] A link rel=stylesheet scoped usecase

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
to Hixie on IRC[1] and he seems to think that there's no use case for style@import/style either. Hixie has odd views sometimes. ^_^ For the record, I meant specifically a style scoped @import. Obviously @import in general has plenty of uses -- the same ones as link, mostly. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] table Relation between bordercolor and border attributes

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
actually defines this now. It's 'border-color: gray', border-style and border-width at initial values (none and medium respectively), assuming there's no attributes making things more complicated. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] Cut and paste (and related) events' futures

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
, but that's basically up to Hallvord. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] beforepopstate event?

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
the location.hash or history.state if he confirms; but then navigation has already taken place, I cannot cancel the navigation but only ignore it. Well, you can always just do history.forward() or whatever, to go back to the previous state. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] HTMLLinkElement.disabled and HTMLLinkElement.sheet behavior

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/27/12 1:30 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Boris Zbarskybzbar...@mit.edu wrote: What Firefox does do is block execution ofscript tags (but not timeouts, callbacks, etc

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Offline-Capable Meta Tag and API Indicates Application's Ability to Function Without Network Connection

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Brian Blakely wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Brian Blakely wrote: What kind of app are you considering that needs 700MB at once? I'm considering videogames that the user would like to play offline

Re: [whatwg] tabindexscope

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Ojan Vafai wrote: We keep running into the use case where the physical position matters for the tab order. The problem with just setting tabIndex (or CSS3 tab

Re: [whatwg] video and audio tags need to have volume attribute.

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
the volume without javascript. What's the use case for setting the volume to anything but 1.0 (normal volume, controlled by the user's master volume control) or 0.0 (muted)? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] I have feature requests for video and audio tags.

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
would come in handy also. On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: Look at the track element, which does precisely this. Indeed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] video element not ready for prime time

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
. Essentially it's source order, yes. Also will my user agent down-load the file that it cannot play, thus using up band-width? Enough of it to determine it cannot play it, yes, unless you provide attributes on source for it to determine that it doesn't know the format. Cheers, -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] video element not ready for prime time

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
) is a blank screen. No message (as I would get with embed) and as far as I can see there is no way for me as an author to know that the video is not being played so I cannot code a 'write around'. I brought up this same concern in Dec 2009 and Hixie seemed to concur: On 9/02/2010, Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] sources in video by quality as well as codec

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
network channel would be a more effective solution (i.e. one where the download adapts in real time to changing network conditions, with the endpoints negotiating with each other regarding what to transmit). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] MediaController feedback

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
the removing. The idea here is that this should all work even without any JS, just with UA UI. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Various HTML element feedback

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-01-21 0:30, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: I don’t think you have clarified whether var is suitable for physical quantities, but I guess you meant to imply it—even though there is not a single

Re: [whatwg] [Selectors4] case-insensitive attribute value matching (in XML)

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: Ian Hickson on Fri Jan 20 14:31:01 PST 2012: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Christoph Päper wrote: Anne van Kesteren: I'm still trying to get HTML and browsers to change so that attribute values always match case-sensitively, irrespective of markup

Re: [whatwg] MediaController feedback

2012-06-04 Thread Ian Hickson
above. I don't really understand this proposal. Could you elaborate on this? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Request for new DOM property textarea.selectionText

2012-06-01 Thread Ian Hickson
field instead of selectionStart and selectionEnd respectively when offsets are omitted. Replacing the selected text was one of the main use cases leading to this. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Canvas v5 API additions

2012-05-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Ashley Gullen wrote: On 28 March 2012 22:41, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 29 Oct 2011, Ashley Gullen wrote: I had a quick go with setting ctx.mozImageSmoothingEnabled = false. It works great with drawImage. However it does not appear to affect

Re: [whatwg] Data store readability in drag/dragend

2012-05-29 Thread Ian Hickson
=newsitemcomment=news.1.83.0 is one person's attempt to work around the current limitations of the system. What's the use case? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Make files attribute of the input element writable

2012-05-29 Thread Ian Hickson
implemented here. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: imageSmoothingEnabled not part of the state stack?

2012-05-29 Thread Ian Hickson
for the new line dash parameters. Intentional, or oversight? Oversight. Fixed. Thanks. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Matthew Wilcox wrote: On 24 January 2012 23:26, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Anselm Hannemann - Novolo Designagentur wrote: As we now have the possibility of creating fluid and responsive layouts in several ways we have a problem

Re: [whatwg] Proposal in supporting the writing of Arabizi

2012-05-10 Thread Ian Hickson
. Good luck pushing Apple Microsoft in implementing this. If we create this as a tag then we'd push every OS vendor to support it. Why would Apple and Microsoft be any more likely to think it worth implementing in their browser than in their operating system? -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] Proposal in supporting the writing of Arabizi

2012-05-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 10 May 2012, Sami Eljabali wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012, Sami Eljabali wrote: I don't understand. Everybody has an operating system. Why would putting things in the operating system limit availability

Re: [whatwg] source media attribute behavior, static or dynamic ?

2012-05-10 Thread Ian Hickson
possible interpretation, so it's not clear to me how to make it less ambiguous. Could you elaborate on what interpretations of the spec you think are possible? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] source media attribute behavior, static or dynamic ?

2012-05-10 Thread Ian Hickson
, of the resource selection algorithm. The only time, therefore, that you should ever be affected by the media= attribute, is when you reach that step in your implementation. There is nothing that causes that to happen when the environment changes. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Video- and audio-controls without scripting

2012-05-08 Thread Ian Hickson
/web-apps/current-work/#user-interface -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-05-08 Thread Ian Hickson
size is allowed to be any dimension at all. CSS isn't required to be supported at all. Users are allowed to apply arbitrary user style sheets. Users are allowed to interact with form controls by using the keyboard or the mouse or any other input device. All of these do break some pages. -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Add naturalOrientation property to img

2012-05-08 Thread Ian Hickson
be interested in implementing? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] instantiating display:none plugins

2012-05-08 Thread Ian Hickson
having an explicit instantiation trigger that works even if display:none would be a reasonable thing to do. I haven't added this yet, but if there's a compelling need we can always consider adding it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Proposal in supporting the writing of Arabizi

2012-05-08 Thread Ian Hickson
browser could just support the input field, given they can render them. On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Why would implementing IME for such an OS be harder than implementing one for the web browser? Indeed. From the spec's point of view, they're more or less equivalent. -- Ian Hickson

[whatwg] Can we change the base URL of fallback entries in appcache manifests? and other feedback

2012-05-07 Thread Ian Hickson
confused. Appcache is designed so that you can cache the applicaton (the editor) separately from the documents. The documents would go into a client-side database. This is similar to how desktop software works. You don't install a new copy of WordPerfect for every document you create. -- Ian

[whatwg] More forms-related feedback

2012-05-07 Thread Ian Hickson
, Cameron Jones wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011, Michael Gratton wrote: HTML5 does not provide a means of submitting form content that is otherwise rendered as normal text, i.e. not as a form control. The use cases

[whatwg] password-related feedback on forms

2012-05-04 Thread Ian Hickson
the features altogether. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Form element invalid message

2012-05-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Ian Hickson wrote (I'm replying to myself here...): On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 12/29/2010 07:41 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: I actually

[whatwg] Localisation of form fields

2012-05-04 Thread Ian Hickson
HTMLInputElement::numberFormat to set/get a Globalization.NumberFormat object. http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=globalization:specification_drafts Looks like that proposal has the issue well in hand... -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] [webcomponents] Template element parser changes = Proposal for adding DocumentFragment.innerHTML

2012-05-04 Thread Ian Hickson
= document.createDocumentFragment(); frag.innerHTML = 'bla bla .. 1GB of text .. bla caption bla' ? Why do we imply a tbody if the input is tr/trdiv/div? Since you need the context element to know how to initialise the tokeniser, how do you find the first tag? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] [webcomponents] Template element parser changes = Proposal for adding DocumentFragment.innerHTML

2012-05-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 4 May 2012, Rafael Weinstein wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 4 May 2012, Rafael Weinstein wrote: This is the current proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012AprJun/0334.html I don't really understand

Re: [whatwg] input type=barcode?

2012-05-04 Thread Ian Hickson
, so this is perhaps closer to an IME hint, as has been suggested for a couple of other input types. I agree that this seems like, at most, an input mode hint. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

<    5   6   7   8   9   10   11   12   13   14   >