Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features

2008-08-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I have to repeat Ian's question now: what happens when the server with a custom vocabulary definition goes down? Does it take a part of the semantic Web down along with it? Interestingly enough, ape-compatible operating systems (guess which) do not provide any CURIEs (soft links)* for file

Re: [whatwg] RDFa statement consistency

2008-08-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manu Sporny Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:06 PM To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: Re: [whatwg] RDFa statement consistency Kristof Zelechovski wrote: I think RDFa has already happened: you know what it is and how to use it. Yes, you are correct

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features

2008-08-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:33 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'Manu Sporny'; whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features Kristof Zelechovski wrote: I have to repeat Ian's question now: what happens when the server with a custom vocabulary

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features

2008-08-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Adida Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:46 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org; 'Manu Sporny' Subject: Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Ian's question was about what happens when it goes down forever, or gets taken over

Re: [whatwg] RDFa statement consistency

2008-08-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
form then?) Chris -Original Message- From: Ben Adida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:55 PM To: Anne van Kesteren Cc: Kristof Zelechovski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Manu Sporny' Subject: Re: [whatwg] RDFa statement consistency though I agree with others

Re: [whatwg] RDFa statement consistency

2008-08-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
They want the xmlns declaration on a DIV provided by the wizard, not on the HTML element. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne van Kesteren Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:19 AM To: Ben Adida Cc: Kristof Zelechovski; 'Manu Sporny

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features (was: RDFa Problem Statement)

2008-08-27 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Has anyone considered having an URI in an entity in order to avoid typing it over and over? e.g. !DOCTYPE html !ENTITY myVocab http://www.example.com/vocab/; And later Property=myVocab;myPred? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features (was: RDFa Problem Statement)

2008-08-27 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
You cannot support both CURIEs and URLs. What happens when someone declares xmlns:http? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manu Sporny Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:50 AM To: Ian Hickson Cc: WHAT-WG; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Basics Video (8 minutes)

2008-08-27 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
It is doubtless that semantic networks are a valuable tool in natural language processing and in reasoning about actions. However, having semantic networks and plain text as interleaved alternative streams of the same content, which is what the demonstration shows, seems to be too vulnerable and

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Basics Video (8 minutes)

2008-08-27 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
. Chris -Original Message- From: Ben Adida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:28 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'Manu Sporny'; 'WHAT-WG' Subject: Re: [whatwg] RDFa Basics Video (8 minutes) Kristof Zelechovski wrote: seems to be too vulnerable and error-prone

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features

2008-08-27 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:33 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'Manu Sporny'; 'Ian Hickson'; 'WHAT-WG'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] RDFa Features Kristof Zelechovski wrote: You cannot support both CURIEs and URLs. What happens when someone declares xmlns:http? http

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Basics Video (8 minutes)

2008-08-27 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'WHAT-WG'; 'Manu Sporny' Subject: Re: [whatwg] RDFa Basics Video (8 minutes) Consider: h2 property=dc:creatorKristof/h2 The creator string Kristof is written only once, and plays both roles.

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Basics Video (8 minutes)

2008-08-27 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Well, that sounds better. What makes me uneasy is that objects are indeed taken from the text but predicates are in the attribute values and therefore they must be duplicated to make a sentence. Perhaps the explanation is that the objects vary and the predicates are fixed. Chris -Original

Re: [whatwg] RDFa Problem Statement (was: Creative Commons Rights Expression Language)

2008-08-26 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Web browsers are (hopefully) designed so that they run in every culture. If you define a custom vocabulary without considering its ability to describe phenomena of other cultures and try to impose it worldwide, you do more harm than good to the representatives of those cultures. And considering

Re: [whatwg] RDFa

2008-08-23 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
-Original Message- From: Ben Adida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:43 AM To: Ian Hickson Cc: Dan Brickley; Kristof Zelechovski; Tab Atkins Jr.; Bonner, Matt; Henri Sivonen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] RDFa Ian Hickson wrote: It's not entirely

Re: [whatwg] RDFa

2008-08-23 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
It seems to me identification and description of various entities is best achieved with LDAP which is hierarchical by design. Why wasn't LDAP adopted for the purpose, given that it is older, widely used and well understood? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [whatwg] 2.7.4. Content-Type sniffing

2008-08-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
GNU libmagic used by the command line utility file can be used for content-type sniffing as well. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pilgrim Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:51 AM To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: [whatwg] 2.7.4.

Re: [whatwg] Creative Commons Rights Expression Language

2008-08-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
12. DOCTYPE declarations have to use prefixes where the corresponding namespaces are yet undeclared. The same problem affects external CSS. This effectively fixes the prefixes, making the redirection to the URL redundant. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [whatwg] Creative Commons Rights Expression Language

2008-08-21 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Can't you just embed your XML metadata in a SCRIPT element? Chris

Re: [whatwg] several messages about tables and related subjects

2008-08-21 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The advantage of having an attribute referring to the current column of every table element is that it is easier to check that the right data are the right column. Columns are filled sequentially but the exact position in the sequence is accidental and meaningless in most cases. I tend to put

Re: [whatwg] Creative Commons Rights Expression Language

2008-08-21 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
If I understand it correctly, we do not have a problem with the colon as a namespace separator. Our problem is that a:x sometimes means the same as b:x and there is no reasonable way to make legacy browsers support this. Different URLs, OTOH, are not expected to mean the same thing even if one is

Re: [whatwg] Creative Commons Rights Expression Language

2008-08-21 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
. This probably means you partially right: Lynx, NCSA Mosaic and MacWeb cannot render a progress bar element. Chris -Original Message- From: Ben Adida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:36 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'Dan Brickley'; 'Tab Atkins Jr.'; 'Bonner, Matt'; 'WHAT-WG

Re: [whatwg] Scripted querying of video capabilities

2008-08-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Only the user that actually encounters a Web site deficiency should report it to the creator/owner (assuming they provided a reverse link). Otherwise such a report should be ignored as a supposition. Why should browser vendors bother that some pages do not display correctly in other browsers?

Re: [whatwg] window.onerror -ancient feature needs upgrade

2008-08-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
A load error occurs when the document cannot be loaded. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrett Smith Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:08 AM To: Ian Hickson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] window.onerror -ancient

Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Publishers who publish commercial content on physical media are rarely interested in having their content repackaged by someone else as they see fit. This is not very pleasant of course; however, you could possibly try to solve your problem by asking the vendor for a license to repackage their

Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I admit XSLT is heavy and it causes a significant rendering slowdown in the browser. This is not a problem because the XSLT processor runs on the publisher's machine once each time new content gets published - authoring that content would probably take much more time than publishing it anyway. I

Re: [whatwg] Scripted querying of video capabilities

2008-08-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
20, 2008 2:29 PM To: WHATWG List Subject: Re: [whatwg] Scripted querying of video capabilities On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only the user that actually encounters a Web site deficiency should report it to the creator/owner (assuming they provided

Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-19 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
: Monday, August 18, 2008 7:57 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'WHAT working group' Subject: Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Client-side includes make a document transformation, something which logically belongs XSLT rather than HTML. And what would

Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-18 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Client-side includes make a document transformation, something which logically belongs XSLT rather than HTML. And what would the workaround for legacy browsers be? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Monday, August 18,

Re: [whatwg] WebWorkers vs. Threads

2008-08-14 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Sorry, I do not get it. Where does the value of (la) make it into (e.message)? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Boodman Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:04 PM To: Shannon Cc: WHAT working group; Kristof Zelechovski; Jonas Sicking

Re: [whatwg] Scripted querying of video capabilities

2008-08-13 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
? IMHO, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Double Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:46 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: WHATWG List; Tim Starling Subject: Re: [whatwg] Scripted querying of video capabilities On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 : Misconceptions Documented

2008-08-13 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
While we are at collections and arrays, it is worth noting that the {coll.length} attribute is a misnomer. I would always ask for {coll.count} when I was learning and meditate upon why it did not work. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [whatwg] Joined blocks

2008-08-13 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The concept of joint blocks (which should rather be named disjoint canvas) is relevant mainly to printouts. As it has already been explained in the booklet case, HTML is not the primary workhorse for preparing professional printouts. Window content is stretchable, unlike a print sheet, therefore

Re: [whatwg] Scripted querying of video capabilities

2008-08-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
What is the advantage of using JavaScript to determine a viable embedding method over using alternative streams and fallback content that can include the OBJECT element where appropriate? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Starling

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 : Misconceptions Documented

2008-08-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The attribute FORM.length is not parseable: it cannot be defined in the HTML source and such definition should be ignored. The intrinsic computed length attribute should take precedence over the imported control name which can be retrieved calling form.elements.item(length). Chris -Original

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 : Misconceptions Documented

2008-08-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
It is probably too late for that but I like the concept of a default property much better than metaattributes like IndexGetter. For example, document.forms(0) means call forms on document with argument 0. That is impossible because forms is not a function so we look into forms collection and we

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 : Misconceptions Documented

2008-08-11 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Neither the expression 'form.elements.$name' nor its expanded form 'form.elements[$name]' is supposed to be defined even if $name is an identifier of an embedded control. The correct way to address the control is 'form.elements($name)', which is a shorthand notation for

Re: [whatwg] WebWorkers vs. Threads

2008-08-11 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Guarding concurrent access to global variables is not enough if those variables hold references to objects because an object can end up in a logically inconsistent state if two threads try modifying its properties concurrently. The objects would have to be lockable to avoid corrupting global

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 : Misconceptions Documented

2008-08-11 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
. Chris See also http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms536460(VS.85).aspx. -Original Message- From: Garrett Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:37 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: WHATWG List; Maciej Stachowiak Subject: Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 : Misconceptions

Re: [whatwg] Fake Code

2008-07-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
And this particular example should be recursive. Unfolding inherently recursive procedures with an explicit stack, perhaps to construct an enumerator or to simulate a coroutine, is a technical detail that does not belong here. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [whatwg] image element

2008-07-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
He was the vendor of the prototype implementation so it was impossible to stop him although TBL did his best. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholas Shanks Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:17 AM To: Ian Hickson Cc: WHAT Working

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 : Misconceptions Documented

2008-07-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Form attribute names should take precedence over form control names. There is no ambiguity. Both mechanisms belong to Netscape DOM and are deprecated. Form property names should take precedence over both. I do not see much value in removing support for legacy code altogether; it looks a bit

Re: [whatwg] Application deployment

2008-07-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The documents belonging to the container should not be available directly from the server, except when they are served via a server extension that goes to the container to get them. This effect should be easy to achieve on the server side. Chris _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [whatwg] img element comments

2008-07-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The element you are describing is effectively a progress bar control. It is still not present in HTML; however, it can be emulated using an OUTPUT control with layout or with invisible text and a custom background: SPAN STYLE=COLOR: RED; BACKGROUND: RED; BORDER: THIN SOLID BLACK ***/SPAN

Re: [whatwg] Application deployment

2008-07-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Please explain why you consider concatenating JavaScript sources dirty. You can have a library of all JavaScript definitions relevant to your site in one source file and I am not sure what is wrong with it, except that a library should consist of books, but that concept was already broken long

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a link attribute to replace a href

2008-07-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
By the current spec, the Anchor element is phrasing content, which is a special case of flow content. Did you mean transparent content instead? EC! I cannot see any inline content in HTML5, at least not in 3.4.1 where content models are defined. Chris -Original Message- From: Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Expanding datetime

2008-07-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I feel uneasy about this Gregorian bias in dates, although I use Gregorian calendar myself. It seems Gregorian dates do not require specifying the datetime attribute but all other dates do (like Arabic lunar, Jewish, Thai, Ethiopic, whatever). It would be much better if the algorithm were

Re: [whatwg] Application deployment

2008-07-29 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
29, 2008 9:55 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: Adrian Sutton; Adam Barth; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Russell Leggett; Philipp Serafin Subject: Re: [whatwg] Application deployment On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My complaint was about how the jar URL scheme

Re: [whatwg] Application deployment

2008-07-29 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I think that just puts some restrictions on the arrangement on the server. My guess is that once a resource is shadowed, it becomes invisible, and the server should not serve resources that might be shadowed unless the publisher knows what she is doing. It is not the only way to make a site

Re: [whatwg] ISSUE-44 (EventsAndWindow): Should DOM3 Events cover the interaction of events and the Window object? [DOM3 Events]

2008-07-29 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I am not sure where it is relevant but I remember from learning Borland Paradox that events are dispatched to window first so that the window can intercept them universally and then they bubble bottom up if not intercepted. This feature is called global grab (if the window decides to handle the

Re: [whatwg] Application deployment

2008-07-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
. It can cause relative hyperlinks to break when archiving an existing directory. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Barth Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:55 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: Philipp Serafin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Russell Leggett

Re: [whatwg] Application deployment

2008-07-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
solution would be to indicate the start page in the manifest and let the code run under a fake root. IMHO, Chris _ From: Adrian Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:56 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski; Adam Barth Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Russell Leggett; Philipp

Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing ideas

2008-07-26 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
A bank sporting a site with a form encouraging the customer to enter arbitrary HTML code would be perceived innovative indeed, albeit in the Monty-Pythonic sense. I can envision the logo: The First Alternative Reality Bank. Hopefully, all its accounts would be run in lindendollars... And no

Re: [whatwg] pushState

2008-07-26 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
It is not customary for desktop applications to change the window title in response to current state of the document it displays. A Web browser is a desktop application and it should not exhibit such behavior either. The place to store information about the latest user action is the Edit menu,

Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing ideas

2008-07-04 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
). HTH Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Collin Jackson Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:29 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; whatwg; Ian Hickson; Mike Ter Louw; HTMLWG Subject: Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing

Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing ideas

2008-07-03 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
For the record: Microsoft HTML engine supports the following syntax: IFRAME src=about:HTML ./HTML . Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ter Louw Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:42 PM To: Ian Hickson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; whatwg;

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] imageRenderingQuality property

2008-07-01 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The image rendering quality property is indeed unable to hit the tradeoff between beauty of presentation and rendering speed. However, it is perfectly all right to say 'this content is some fancy GUI can be rendered downscaled without degrading the content - but that content contains engineering

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] imageRenderingQuality property

2008-07-01 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Challenge accepted. THIS: the content the author wants the browser to render. HAPPEN: the sequence of operations performed by the browser in order to render THIS. QUICKLY: meeting the user's expectations how long he should wait for THIS. QUALITY: how accurately the browser follows the author's

Re: [whatwg] What should the value attribute be formulti-fileupload controls in WF2?

2008-06-24 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
semantics. The fact that x is undefined is helpful because you have a smaller chance of overlooking something. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frode Borli Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:41 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [whatwg] document.readyState and its initial value

2008-06-23 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Editorial remarks: 1. The links to current document readiness are reflexive and should be removed. 2. The page loading process mentioned should be linked to the relevant section. It would be convenient for the reader and it would also provide a visual indication that it is a reference to

Re: [whatwg] Suggestion of an alternative TCPConnection implementation

2008-06-19 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Correct me if I am wrong: no two-way TCP daemon like telnet, ssh, POP3, NNTP or IMAP allows reconnecting to an existing session when the connection drops and for UDP daemons this question is moot because the connection never drops although it can occasionally fail. Why should a custom connection

Re: [whatwg] Sandboxing to accommodate user generated content.

2008-06-18 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Let’s sort things out, folks. There is nothing in the spec to prevent a browser vendor to format the user’s hard drive and to drain her bank account as a bonus when the page displayed contains the string D357R0Y!N0\V!. The spec does not tell the vendors what not to do, therefore it cannot

Re: [whatwg] Sandboxing to accommodate user generated content.

2008-06-17 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
1. Please elaborate how an extension of CSS would require a sanitizer update. 2. Please explain why using a dedicated tag with double parsing is easier for a Web developer than putting the code in an attribute. 3. Your quoting solution would not cause legacy browsers to show plain text; they

Re: [whatwg] Sandboxing to accommodate user generated content.

2008-06-17 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Of Frode Borli Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:34 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: Re: [whatwg] Sandboxing to accommodate user generated content. 1. Please elaborate how an extension of CSS would require a sanitizer update. In the year 1998: A sanitizer algorithm works

Re: [whatwg] Sandboxing to accommodate user generated content.

2008-06-17 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The problem with tag warning is, if /data is the first token inserted, there will be no warning because the resulting code will be valid. So the key question remains: how do you tell unescaped /data from the closing /data? And the warning, if applicable, will go to the wrong person: to all

Re: [whatwg] Some media element details

2008-06-13 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The _function_ performed by the play/pause button is reciprocally correlated; OTOH, its _interactivity_ (whether enabled) can be related to playback state. Not that I like this overprotective design. HTH, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: target=_tab

2008-06-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
.: If you want your answer to go to João only, just send it exclusively to him. -Original Message- From: Borek Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:25 AM To: Joao Eiras; Kristof Zelechovski; Ian Hickson; whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: target=_tab

2008-06-11 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Once you have support in CSS, you can use DOM+CSS from JS. No particular support within JS is required. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Borek Bernard Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:37 AM To: Ian Hickson; whatwg@lists.whatwg.org

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: target=_tab

2008-06-11 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
support from JS itself (your postulated modification of the window.open interface method is perfectly suited for the current JS language, I hope?). HTH, Chris -Original Message- From: Borek Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:27 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski; Ian

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: target=_tab

2008-06-11 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
11, 2008 9:16 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski; 'Borek Bernard'; 'Ian Hickson'; whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal: target=_tab As mentioned multiple times, that up to the user agent, or browser if you prefer, to control. Users with browsers with tabbed interface want tabs

Re: [whatwg] Issues concerning the base element and xml:base

2008-06-07 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
RFC 1808 defines how to resolve a relative URI, doesn’t it?. The need to notify elements that have URI attributes is much better expressed as the need to notify those attributes themselves. However, this would require each attribute to be an object type, à la XML DOM. For completeness,

Re: [whatwg] several messages

2008-06-06 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The intended result of printing a document is that there is a printed copy of a reasonable quality available. The Web page can have no knowledge of that fact (unless it has feedback from the surveillance network, that is). Assuming that it is there after printing is wishful thinking. Chris

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 Feedback: Section 3.5.3 Scrolling elements into view

2008-06-06 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
If the part of the document following the bookmark is too short for the containing view port, revealing the bookmark should be equivalent to scrolling to the end of the containing page. HTH, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bonner,

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 Feedback: Section 3.5.3 Scrolling elements into view

2008-06-03 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Nothing in the document can be further down than the bottom. If the document scrolls past the bottom, it shows nothing under the bottom but the bottom is in the middle of the window. This is inevitable if the document is short so that it can be displayed without scrolling (and without scroll

Re: [whatwg] [Slightly OT(?)] Programmatically defined styles [Re:Superset encodings [Re: ISO-8859-* and the C1 control range]]

2008-05-31 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Declaring classes for colors does not create much overhead over the cost of actually using the colors on the page. Otherwise there is no need to do so. Unnecessary declarations can be purged. Chris (BTW, is there any purging static linker for JavaScript, assuming eval is not used? What about

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a link attribute to replace a href

2008-05-29 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I do not know how common the banner link abuse described is; using a table for banner layout is abusive enough to make this an edge case. The immediate remedy would be to transform the source document so as to propagate the anchors downwards, i.e. into each table cell. I am sure the banner

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a link attribute to replace a href

2008-05-29 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The anchor customarily encompasses just the key phrase, not the whole text. The problem here is that the advertisements are not cooperative; they aggressively try to get in the reader's way. In your example, it would be more consistent to wrap the header text only. As an alternative, you can put

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a link attribute to replace a href

2008-05-29 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
the Web consistent. Chris -Original Message- From: Frank Hellenkamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:59 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a link attribute to replace a href The anchor customarily encompasses just

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5: Wording of license link type is too narrow

2008-05-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The correct markup for a link trademark license would be A HREF=tmlic.html /trade;/A A trademark license does not apply to a Web page. It may of course apply to the product described on the page but such information is meaningless to HTML spiders and publishing tools; information an

Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing ideas

2008-05-23 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
An inline frame is equivalent to an object: the browser displays the content of the element when it is configured not to support inline frames. I think it is possible to tweak current browsers lest they do. Putting the intended content inside does not seem to be the right choice. Chris

Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing ideas

2008-05-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
If attribute values were limited to ASCII, so would be the values for @ALT and @TITLE. This would cause the same problem. OTOH, attribute names are, with the pending unfortunate exception of EMBED. Chris _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tab Atkins

Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing ideas

2008-05-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Legacy browsers will use @SRC which must be filtered. They will ignore the new content (whatever the attribute name will be) altogether so it need not be filtered. Fallback @SRC can contain a URL to an error page saying Sorry, not in your browser. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing ideas

2008-05-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
1. Nested browsing contexts in a sandboxed frame cannot be created dynamically but they can be defined by the inner markup. 2. If the frame is not allowed to execute scripts, setting location to script should have no effect. 3. There is a potential discrepancy between applying parent width, which

Re: [whatwg] WebIDL vs HTML5 storage changes

2008-05-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
delete means from memory, not from container in C++. In particular, delete member of object leaves the object in an inconsistent state, unless the member is already NULL, and therefore such a construct should never be used. The analogy is very inappropriate. Chris -Original Message-

Re: [whatwg] WebIDL vs HTML5 storage changes

2008-05-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Opacity of style is not quite the same thing because you compare a predefined property to an expando property. Predefined properties should not be deleted, deleting expando properties should be supported. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2008-04-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Image dimensions should provide information about the image. This information should correspond accurately to the image served. CSS dimensions can be used for scaling in the user agent. Note that the @style attribute applies to the FONT element only. In particular, it does not apply to IMG

Re: [whatwg] Canvas line styles comments

2008-02-03 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
, February 02, 2008 11:21 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: WHATWG Subject: Re: [whatwg] Canvas line styles comments On 02/02/2008, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You considered the convex hull of the original lines to get that paradox; I had the stroke path segments in mind. (Stroke

Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-02-03 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I installed the latest Quick Time player and I still cannot see how it works fine. The browser shows the Quick Time logo with a running shuttle underneath. The browser is Ready and the player is Negotiating. The movie seems invalid to me. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-02-02 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Your movie showed as a grey square and hanged Internet Explorer and I had to log out. Was that intended? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:02 AM To: 'WHAT working group' Subject: Re: [whatwg]

Re: [whatwg] Canvas line styles comments

2008-02-02 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
A pair cannot be consecutive unless it follows after another pair, which would be irrelevant anyway. The rounding arc should be chosen so that it is not contained in the convex hull of the stroke path segments terminated at the points where the arc begins. Chris -Original Message-

Re: [whatwg] Canvas line styles comments

2008-02-02 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Zelechovski Cc: WHATWG; Ian Hickson Subject: Re: [whatwg] Canvas line styles comments On 02/02/2008, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rounding arc should be chosen so that it is not contained in the convex hull of the stroke path segments terminated at the points where the arc

Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] Named start values for lists?

2007-11-10 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Now that you have touched this topic, let me remind you of the problem of parallel texts in multilingual documents, sort of (ill-formed) table ol colspan=2 tr td li horse td li Pferd tr td li table td li Tisch /ol /table Of course, it is not appropriate for interleaved linguistic publications

Re: [whatwg] database full error (was: Re: executeSql API issynchronous)

2007-10-14 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
- From: Scott Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 3:47 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: WHATWG Mailing List Subject: Re: [whatwg] database full error (was: Re: executeSql API issynchronous) On 10/14/07, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is possible to recover

Re: [whatwg] successful form controls

2007-09-15 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
1. Radio buttons are never checked so this sentence means that they are never successful. 2. A control that is read-only does not accept input from the user; however, it may have a meaningful value that is worth submitting because its value can be calculated on the client side. Although the

Re: [whatwg] WF 2.0 -- HTMLTextAreaElement [ type ] attribute

2007-09-15 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
If I were one, I would return text, just like it does in an input control does. Cheers Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrett Smith Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [whatwg] WF 2.0 --

Re: [whatwg] Canvas arcTo

2007-07-02 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The questioned wording is correct: a straight line has infinite radius and thus does not match the requirement if the radius is finite. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Taylor Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:42 PM To: WHATWG

Re: [whatwg] XMLHttpRequest for missing file

2007-06-29 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
IE7 does not allow XML-HTTP-Requesting a local file whether it exists or not. You can use Scripting.FileSystemObject for that purpose. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Garen Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing

2007-06-25 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
;, although I do not know of any valid case (I consider the French case invalid). Chëërs Chrïs _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sander Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:59 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing I

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing

2007-06-25 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Inconsistently, as of IE7: I got ge verbatim from your test. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Sandfeld Jensen Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:55 PM To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing What about

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing [trema/diaresis vs umlaut]

2007-06-25 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
to think that the apparent preference for umlaut dots closer to the letter than trema dots can be linked to extrinsic phenomena like the preference for steep accents in French typography.) Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Only the vowel U can have either This is not quite right. All Latin vowels (a, e, i

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