Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing

2007-06-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
A dieresis is not an umlaut so I have to bite my tongue each time I write or read nonsense like iuml;. It feels like lying. Umlaut means mixed, a dieresis means standalone. Those are very different things, and I can never gets mixed so there is no ambiguïty. Since umlaut is borrowed from

Re: [whatwg] void elements vs. content model = empty

2007-06-19 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
A void element cannot have any content because there is no way to specify it in the source. Such a relation is called entailment. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:29 AM To: ryan Cc:

Re: [whatwg] file URL is overspecified

2007-06-17 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I did not mean to bring it up; it was a carbon copy because HTML 5 was mentioned. I shall not CC if you find such posts disruptive. Best regards Chris -Original Message- From: Ian Hickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:17 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: [EMAIL

[whatwg] file URL is overspecified

2007-06-15 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The URI reference http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/references.html in the HTML 4 refers to RFC 2396 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt which is obsolete by RFC 3986 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt . The latter document has a new section 2.5: Identifying Data, containing the following new

Re: [whatwg] Allowed characters in attribute names (was: Re: Stepsfor finding one or two numbers in a string)

2007-06-13 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Why should I want to use a localized attribute name for the embed element? I assume that the attribute named ‘smörgåsbord’ should necessarily correspond to an internal property of the same name. This would require a localized compiler to compile the embedded object in the first place because

Re: [whatwg] Allowed characters in attribute names

2007-06-13 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
To: Kristof Zelechovski; 'Simon Pieters'; 'Thomas Broyer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] Allowed characters in attribute names On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:18:28 +0200, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should I want to use a localized attribute name for the embed element? I assume

Re: [whatwg] Allowed characters in attribute names

2007-06-13 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The embed element should be deprecated because of the expando feature that makes it so special. I understand that having both embed and object can capture some semantic differences where embed means display and object means run but breaking the fixed interface rule weighs more than introducing

Re: [whatwg] Steps for finding one or two numbers in a string

2007-06-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Attribute names are limited to ASCII, attribute values are not. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:54 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'Henri Sivonen'; 'whatwg List' Subject: Re: [whatwg] Steps

Re: [whatwg] Steps for finding one or two numbers in a string

2007-06-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Of Ian Hickson Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:09 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'Henri Sivonen'; 'whatwg List' Subject: Re: [whatwg] Steps for finding one or two numbers in a string On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Attribute names are limited to ASCII, attribute values

Re: [whatwg] Steps for finding one or two numbers in a string

2007-06-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
it does no harm either. Chris -Original Message- From: Ian Hickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:20 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'whatwg List' Subject: RE: [whatwg] Steps for finding one or two numbers in a string On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Kristof Zelechovski wrote

Re: [whatwg] Still more comments and questions on Web Apps 1.0

2007-06-09 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
At least, MSXML does not preserve white space even where mixed content is allowed. I get span a/span span b/span when I XSLT span a/span span b/span . I have to type #32; for all standalone spaces. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [whatwg] CR entities and LFCR

2007-06-08 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
) -Original Message- From: Henri Sivonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:45 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'Michel Fortin'; 'WHATWG List' Subject: Re: [whatwg] CR entities and LFCR On Jun 8, 2007, at 09:24, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Reading a file in text mode

Re: [whatwg] On separation of code and data

2007-06-07 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The primary purpose of HTML is presentation, not scripting. You can have a user agent that does not support scripting at all, or that does not support scripting in your script of choice, but other elements of your presentation should be rendered, whatever that means, and make sense without

Re: [whatwg] Web Forms attributes: minlength / autocomplete

2007-06-07 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
A pattern with exponential matching time can be used to lock the viewer's browser, potentially making her lose her input in other controls and other windows; that means the pattern attribute must be disabled for restricted sites. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [whatwg] Web Forms attributes: minlength / autocomplete

2007-06-07 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
These negative values are a misleading hack in that the input value it should be trimmed in the DOM as well to be consistent. If you need autotrim, introduce an explicit attribute to this end. This would make the side effect more explicit. Chris _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [whatwg] ISO-8859-* and the C1 control range

2007-06-05 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
And why not:? 2c) If the declared encoding was ISO-8859-2, replace that character with the character that you get by casting the code point into a byte and decoding it as Windows-1250. Am I missing something? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [whatwg] Style sheet loading and parsing (over HTTP)

2007-05-31 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
You should rather begin with (plain text) CR LF to subvert document type sniffing. It is meant to be plain text, after all. You do not use tags in plain text, be they fake or genuine. Cheers Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gary

Re: [whatwg] Request: Explicit grouping within dl

2007-05-26 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Were such nesting specified and implemented, it would be easier to iterate over definitions, and finding the DT given a DD and vice versa would be easier (no chance of accidentally leaving the DI). Of course, all of this can be achieved under the present state of affairs. Can anybody show us an

Re: [whatwg] Request: Explicit grouping within dl

2007-05-26 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
pages and their authors generally are more skilled so they can handle the additional difficulty. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henri Sivonen Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 11:36 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Sander

Re: [whatwg] One document or two?

2007-05-24 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The script http://status.whatwg.org/annotate-web-apps.js used throughout the specification pages, including http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-content -type-sniffing.html#content-type-sniffing, causes an error under Internet Explorer. The fix I posted was not

Re: [whatwg] password option for window.prompt?

2007-05-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
And besides, the bookmarklet uses the javascript protocol, which, IIRC, is designed to produce a new document on the fly, not to modify the current one. I do not think that a bookmarklet should be permitted to access the document that is being displayed in the browser. You can say javascript:

Re: [whatwg] password option for window.prompt?

2007-05-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Bookmarklets are free tools to help with . impossible tasks in your web browser. Indeed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of timeless Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] password option for

Re: [whatwg] password option for window.prompt?

2007-05-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
? That would be weird. Best regards, Chris -Original Message- From: Maciej Stachowiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:18 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'Ian Hickson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] password option for window.prompt? On May

Re: [whatwg] password option for window.prompt?

2007-05-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
:37 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] password option for window.prompt? Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Forgive my being nosy: which uses? a href=javascript:. is valid . is not syntactically correct Javascript so script execution would be aborted and it would

Re: [whatwg] Dashed strokes on canvas

2007-05-17 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Works in IE? IE by MarsSoft? Microsoft Application Search http://shell.windows.com/fileassoc/0409/xml/redir.asp?EXT=svg answers: Windows does not recognize this file type. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ddailey Sent: Thursday, May

Re: [whatwg] Sandboxing ideas

2007-05-15 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The OP probably meant that maintaining so many contexts would cause a comparable deterioration in performance. All user comments should be put in one security context. With all comments grouped together in such a manner, you could even use an inline frame. Chris -Original Message- From:

Re: [whatwg] Opera canvas bug?

2007-05-11 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The scripts should test the canvas variable before use. It is empty in IE7 and using it causes a runtime error. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 4:20 AM To: Benjamin Joffe Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [whatwg] Changes from HTML4 wiki page

2007-05-10 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Done. Note that the presentation reflects platform rule is unacceptable either since that essentially means that markup is not allowed in the label, except for the control that is being labeled. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-08 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I have a weak feeling against this proposition. Not that I think it would harm very much, it just seems not very appropriate. From the behavioral point of view: The purpose of a LABEL control is to redirect focus on click. It does not make much sense with a TEXTAREA control that is usually big

Re: [whatwg] sarcasm

2007-04-25 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Your quotation is incorrect because the Q element inserts language-dependent quotation marks on its own. Your markup produces the following text: « Toute forme de langage devrait être reconnue et libre d'exister sans ironie. » At least, it should. Internet Explorer does not do it because they do

Re: [whatwg] sarcasm

2007-04-25 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:25 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'WHAT Working Group Mailing List' Subject: Re: [whatwg] sarcasm Le 25 avr. 2007 à 17:31, Kristof Zelechovski a écrit : Your quotation is incorrect because the Q element inserts language- dependent quotation marks on its own

Re: [whatwg] Alt text authoring Re: Conformance for Mail clients

2007-04-23 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
It seems you should replace all embedded content images with links to download them as stand-alone resources if you want to be strictly conformant with the images are an alternative of text theory. I am not particularly happy with this method because I would have to use a graphic processor to add

Re: [whatwg] Infinite loopcount for audio and video

2007-04-23 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
loopcount=forever? It looks better than Inf. loopcount=-1? Is a number, + a static constant for LOOPCOUNT_FOREVER in the DOM. Not that I consider the exact wording very important anyway. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ddailey

Re: [whatwg] Alt text authoring Re: Conformance for Mail clients

2007-04-22 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
For (2): alt=(Your browser does not display graphic images). Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Barnett Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:48 PM To: Kornel Lesinski Cc: whatwg Subject: Re: [whatwg] Alt text authoring Re: Conformance for

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-17 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The method for reading Web pages off line is subscription, not downloading. Your browser should support subscription. Enable it for your favorite pages and you are done. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefan Haustein Sent: Monday,

Re: [whatwg] [wf2] form submission algorithm questions

2007-04-16 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
What do you mean by rinse? Only the end user is in position to make the necessary corrections if the input is invalid. Any interaction with the user should not be executed inside a loop because it is a frustrating experience where you do not know where you are, what you are operating on and how

Re: [whatwg] A few editing suggestions for the HTML5 spec

2007-04-15 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Pressing a button when the user agent is in paused state should cause the button to remain pressed until the user agent wakes up and execution of the associated event handlers should be deferred. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [whatwg] A few editing suggestions for the HTML5 spec

2007-04-15 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
message, an animated icon, whatever in order to prevent this misunderstanding. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Garen Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:32 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] A few

Re: [whatwg] A few editing suggestions for the HTML5 spec

2007-04-15 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Yes, they could, just like storey buttons in the lift. Chris -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Garen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:32 PM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] A few editing suggestions for the HTML5 spec Pressing

Re: [whatwg] Conformance for Mail clients (and maybe other WYSIWYGeditors)

2007-04-11 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I think the correct fallback for a photograph for its own sake is alt=(Use a browser that supports graphic images to view). The problem is that such images usually have an independent caption that is visible with alongside the image. Specifying a description of the content of the image as the

Re: [whatwg] List captions

2007-04-06 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-April/010728.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Mabbett Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:32 PM To: WHAT WG Subject: [whatwg] List captions How often do we see something like:

Re: [whatwg] Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements

2007-04-05 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Sorry for breaking into your realm, I just could not resist. It seems that a recording that plays just once should have the loop-count set to 0 (or left unspecified, of course). This means that the loop-count attribute cannot be used to specify that the recording should not play at all - which

Re: [whatwg] Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements

2007-04-05 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Complex properties usually have their atomic counterparts in order that a script can manipulate them conveniently. That means independence is not the only factor here. ChrisY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L. David Baron Sent: Thursday,

Re: [whatwg] Apply script.defer to internal scripts

2007-04-03 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
script.defer to internal scripts Hallvord R M Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27/03/07, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.17.1. The script element specification says: defer (if the src attribute is present) async (if the src attribute is present) I understand that the async

Re: [whatwg] Section nesting menu and an old HTML 3 friend LH

2007-04-03 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Explicitly semantically: use DD for header, DT as a wrapper for items. It means that a top-level list with a header must be wrapped in a DL for completeness. dl dtSample Menu/dt dd dl dtFile/dt dd ul liNew/li

Re: [whatwg] Apply script.defer to internal scripts

2007-03-30 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Admittedly, but I still cannot see why the defer attribute must not be specified without an external source. What does this restriction buy you? An opportunity to advertise DOMContentLoaded? Using this event is much more complicated than using the defer attribute if it were supported. Chris

Re: [whatwg] Apply script.defer to internal scripts

2007-03-29 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] Apply script.defer to internal scripts On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:49:41 +0200, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider the following example: script type=text/javascript defer function ha8validate(p5event) { return true

[whatwg] Apply script.defer to internal scripts

2007-03-27 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#script 3.17.1. The script element specification says: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#defer defer (if the http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#src10 src attribute is present)

<    1   2   3   4