Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-08-21 Thread Jake Archibald
On 5 August 2014 16:30, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Peter Beverloo bever...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: Is that available within a service worker? It would be reasonable to

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-08-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Peter Beverloo bever...@google.com wrote: When used from a Service Worker, the attribute will implicitly default to the ServiceWorkerRegistration of the running Service Worker. Is that available within a service worker? If serviceWorker is set to

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-08-05 Thread Peter Beverloo
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Peter Beverloo bever...@google.com wrote: When used from a Service Worker, the attribute will implicitly default to the ServiceWorkerRegistration of the running Service Worker. Is

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-08-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Peter Beverloo bever...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: Is that available within a service worker? It would be reasonable to expose it, but it currently isn't (afaik). Okay, we'd need to sort that out

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-07-29 Thread Peter Beverloo
To summarize a discussion we had about this on IRC today: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20140729#l-509 Jungkee wrote a helpful document for features using Service Workers as well: https://gist.github.com/jungkees/3154398b8deee7c70139 The |serviceWorker| attribute can be added to

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-07-15 Thread John Mellor
On 15 May 2014 17:13, Peter Beverloo bever...@google.com wrote: (snip) For |notificationshow|, there is a worry here that if we decide to support delayed notifications, it would enable developers to use notifications to set precise timers: create a delayed notification to be displayed an hour

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-05-16 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Peter Beverloo bever...@google.com wrote: For |notificationshow|, there is a worry here that if we decide to support delayed notifications, it would enable developers to use notifications to set precise timers: create a delayed notification to be displayed an

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Beverloo
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Peter Beverloo bever...@google.com wrote: For |notificationshow|, there is a worry here that if we decide to support delayed notifications, it would enable developers to use

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-05-16 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Peter Beverloo bever...@google.com wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: Service worker integration makes sense to me. I guess I'll wait with updating the Notifications API until that is further along. Do you have a

Re: [whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-05-15 Thread Peter Beverloo
One amendment to (3), which events to expose on the ServiceWorkerGlobalScope, is that we should only expose the |notificationclick| and |notificationclose| events. The benefit of not exposing |notificationerror| is that there are two situations in which we would fire the event: (a) when there is

[whatwg] [Notifications] Persistent notifications depending on Service Workers

2014-05-13 Thread Peter Beverloo
Based on Anne's Reviving Notification Objects thread from last year, I would like to propose an alternative solution. http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2013-March/251058.html There are known lifetime issues with Notifications, and rather than tying them all to the page, how