Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-07-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012, Pierre Dubois wrote: On Fri Dec 14 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: I don't think this works for all tables. For example, the first example in the spec in the th element's section does not get handled correctly by your algorithm -- it treats the ID column as important,

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-25 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 19 January 2013 01:41, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I don't see any useful explanation of how to use aria-haspopup here. suggest you look at definition of aria-haspopup in the ARIA spec That's what I looked at before this conversation began.

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-25 Thread Steve Faulkner
Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: My point stands. aria-has-popup is pointless because it doesn't define an interaction model. There's no useful way for an AT to expose it. oh I missed your point, suggest you bring it up with the browser implementers who have implemented aria-haspopup to map to

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 17 January 2013 18:59, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: How does the user agent know how the user is to interact with it? menus like most controls have a defined standard interaction pattern -- with regards Steve Faulkner

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 17 January 2013 18:59, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: How does the user agent know how the user is to interact with it? menus like most controls have a defined standard interaction pattern Doesn't it differ from platform to platform? How is

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 18 January 2013 23:55, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Doesn't it differ from platform to platform? How is the author supposed to know what it is on the user's platform? There are some platform differences for some controls. Design patterns for a range of widgets are provided in the ARIA

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 18 January 2013 23:55, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Doesn't it differ from platform to platform? How is the author supposed to know what it is on the user's platform? There are some platform differences for some controls. Design patterns

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 19 January 2013 01:41, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I don't see any useful explanation of how to use aria-haspopup here. suggest you look at definition of aria-haspopup in the ARIA spec HTH SteveF

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-17 Thread Steve Faulkner
hixie wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Steve Faulkner wrote: You don't clearly differentiate between roles, properties and states, ther are quite a few states and properties NOT provided in HTML5 that may have use cases for adding to an input element, for example aria-hapopup,

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote: hixie wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Steve Faulkner wrote: You don't clearly differentiate between roles, properties and states, ther are quite a few states and properties NOT provided in HTML5 that may have use cases for adding to

[whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012, Pierre Dubois wrote: I developed a javascript table parser based on my research. The parser is able to understand complex relationship in a data table. The relationship association is based on the current algorithm and take in consideration how the header cell (th) is