Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2012-01-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Markus Ernst wrote: Am 14.06.2011 09:32 schrieb Ian Hickson: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Markus Ernst wrote: Instead of a new paragraph concept, there could also be a new concept for inline (resp. Phrasing Content) lists. The concept is actually not too new - for

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-06-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2011-06-14 10:32, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: [...] A sentence in the text may continue with list items, displayed e.g. as a bulleted list. So the list breaks the paragraph as a block of text but not logically - the list items are part of the sentence just

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-06-15 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 14.06.2011 18:06 schrieb Tab Atkins Jr.: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Markus Ernstderer...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 14.06.2011 09:32 schrieb Ian Hickson: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Markus Ernst wrote: Consider this markup of Andy's use case: pI always like to eat these cheeses: il

[whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-06-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: The p element (ever since it became an element) has always allowed inline (text-level) content only, and no change is planned to this in HTML5. Actually a change was planned, and executed, early on in the development of HTML5. It had to be

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-06-14 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 14.06.2011 09:32 schrieb Ian Hickson: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Markus Ernst wrote: Instead of a new paragraph concept, there could also be a new concept for inline (resp. Phrasing Content) lists. The concept is actually not too new - for quotes, e.g., we've had both block levelblockquote and

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-06-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 14 June 2011 08:32, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: Under these circumstances, what should we say to people to need to use paragraphs that contain lists, for example? That paragraphs don't contain lists; when a sentence has  * this  *

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-06-14 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 14.06.2011 09:32 schrieb Ian Hickson: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Markus Ernst wrote: Consider this markup of Andy's use case: pI always like to eat these cheeses: il  iliCheddar/ili,  iliStilton/ili, and  iliRed Lester/ili,

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-06-14 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 6/14/11, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: Consider: I like apples, pears, grapes, but not bananas. Nor do I like peaches. and: I like * apples * pears * grapes

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-03-14 Thread Martin Alterisio
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote: On 10 March 2011 08:20, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: what should we say to people to need to use paragraphs that contain lists, for example? This has concerned me for some time. Consider a more

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-03-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
James Graham wrote: On 03/10/2011 09:20 AM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: My question is: Is this acceptable use of the SECTION element, even in a flow that mostly consists of P elements, not wrapped inside SECTION elements of their own? If I understand you correctly, it is not the intended use

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-03-11 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 3/11/11, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: James Graham wrote: On 03/10/2011 09:20 AM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: My question is: Is this acceptable use of the SECTION element, even in a flow that mostly consists of P elements, not wrapped inside SECTION elements of their own? If

[whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-03-10 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
The p element (ever since it became an element) has always allowed inline (text-level) content only, and no change is planned to this in HTML5. Under these circumstances, what should we say to people to need to use paragraphs that contain lists, for example? A paragraph, in the old

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-03-10 Thread James Graham
On 03/10/2011 09:20 AM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: My question is: Is this acceptable use of the SECTION element, even in a flow that mostly consists of P elements, not wrapped inside SECTION elements of their own? If I understand you correctly, it is not the intended use of section — i.e.

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-03-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 March 2011 08:20, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: what should we say to people to need to use paragraphs that contain lists, for example? This has concerned me for some time. Consider a more complex scenario: pI always like to eat these cheeses:/p ul liCheddar liStilton

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-03-10 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 10.03.2011 17:58 schrieb Andy Mabbett: On 10 March 2011 08:20, Jukka K. Korpelajkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: what should we say to people to need to use paragraphs that contain lists, for example? This has concerned me for some time. Consider a more complex scenario: pI always like to eat

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation issue: can section be used for extended paragraphs?

2011-03-10 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Markus Ernst wrote: Would it cause serious issues to add the Phrasing Content category to these three elements [ol, ul, dl] thus allowing them inside the p element? I'm afraid it would, and I think that's the reason why the content model hasn't been extended in HTML5. Consider psome