On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Remco wrote:
Shouldn't videos and audios (and maybe objects too?) also have
an alt attribute? A quick Google search tells me this has not been
discussed
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Remco wrote:
Shouldn't videos and audios (and maybe objects too?) also have an
alt attribute? A quick Google search tells me this has not been
discussed before.
For users who can use audio but not video, authors should either provide
audio descriptions in the video
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Remco wrote:
Shouldn't videos and audios (and maybe objects too?) also have an
alt attribute? A quick Google search tells me this has not been
discussed before.
For users who can use audio but not video,
On Aug 14, 2009, at 16:06, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
There is only one thing I can think about that an alt attribute
could provide that nothing else does: as a blind user tabs onto a
video element, the alt attribute's content could be read out and
briefly describe what is visible in the poster
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Henri Sivonenhsivo...@iki.fi wrote:
On Aug 14, 2009, at 16:06, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
There is only one thing I can think about that an alt attribute
could provide that nothing else does: as a blind user tabs onto a
video element, the alt attribute's content
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Henri Sivonenhsivo...@iki.fi wrote:
On Aug 14, 2009, at 16:06, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
There is only one thing I can think about that an alt attribute
could provide that nothing else does: as a blind user tabs onto a
video element, the alt attribute's content
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:52:38 +0200, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Philip Jägenstedtphil...@opera.com
wrote:
Before suggesting any changes to the source element, make sure you
have
read
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Philip Jägenstedtphil...@opera.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:52:38 +0200, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Philip Jägenstedtphil...@opera.com
wrote:
Before suggesting any changes to the source element, make sure you have
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:45:36 +0200, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Philip Jägenstedtphil...@opera.com
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:52:38 +0200, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Philip Jägenstedtphil...@opera.com
wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Philip Jägenstedtphil...@opera.com wrote:
The resource selection algorithm loops through the source elements and when
it reaches the last one just waits for another source element to be
inserted. It doesn't make any distinction between static markup and elements
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:42:36 -0400, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Benjamin
Hawkes-Lewisbhawkesle...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 10/08/2009 04:05, Remco wrote:
A title is a short description, and could be the movie title in the
case of a video element.
WCAG 2
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Charles McCathieNevilecha...@opera.com wrote:
On 10/08/2009 04:05, Remco wrote:
But Elephants Dream may not be a good example for a video where an alt
text would be useful. It's simply too complicated to replace with
alternative text. But if you have a short
On 10/08/2009 04:05, Remco wrote:
A title is a short description, and could be the movie title in the
case of a video element.
WCAG 2 1.1.1 requires that:
If non-text content is time-based media, then text alternatives at
least provide descriptive identification of the non-text content.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Benjamin
Hawkes-Lewisbhawkesle...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 10/08/2009 04:05, Remco wrote:
A title is a short description, and could be the movie title in the
case of a video element.
WCAG 2 1.1.1 requires that:
If non-text content is time-based media, then
On 10/08/2009 15:42, Remco wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Benjamin
Hawkes-Lewisbhawkesle...@googlemail.com wrote:
Do these features meet your requirements? If not, why not?
A longdesc is not the same as an alt, in that a longdesc is a long
description of the content, while an alt
At 11:22 +1000 10/08/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
I'd be curious to hear what those problems and provisions are for
video and audio.
I'm just referring to the rather extensive disciussion of 'alt' for
images, and the concern some have with attributes that 'most' people
don't see.
I do agree
I have no opinion on the need being adequately covered by other attributes, but…
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Remcoremc...@gmail.com wrote:
For an image this usually works well. An image usually doesn't convey
a lot of meaning. It can be replaced by a simple sentence like A
young dog plays
At 1:12 +0200 10/08/09, Remco wrote:
Shouldn't videos and audios (and maybe objects too?) also have
an alt attribute? A quick Google search tells me this has not been
discussed before.
Your search was too quick...we are discussing accessibility
provisions for video and audio in general.
Am Montag, den 10.08.2009, 01:12 +0200 schrieb Remco:
Shouldn't videos and audios (and maybe objects too?) also have
an alt attribute? A quick Google search tells me this has not been
discussed before.
Hmm … subtitles have not been discussed before ? I don't think so.
Or what else do you think
On 10/08/2009 00:12, Remco wrote:
Shouldn'tvideos andaudios (and maybeobjects too?) also have
an alt attribute?
Bearing in mind:
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#text-equiv
and
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#media-equiv
What function would alt on video serve?
--
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
My search was indeed too quick. I stand corrected.
Captions/subtitles seem like a very good idea for accessibility, but
in addition to that I think that an alt attribute would still be
appropriate for browsers that can't display the media at all. The alt
is a replacement for an external element
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Remcoremc...@gmail.com wrote:
My search was indeed too quick. I stand corrected.
Captions/subtitles seem like a very good idea for accessibility, but
in addition to that I think that an alt attribute would still be
appropriate for browsers that can't display
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Tab Atkins Jr.jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Remcoremc...@gmail.com wrote:
My search was indeed too quick. I stand corrected.
Captions/subtitles seem like a very good idea for accessibility, but
in addition to that I think that an
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:22 AM, David Singersin...@apple.com wrote:
At 1:12 +0200 10/08/09, Remco wrote:
Shouldn't videos and audios (and maybe objects too?) also have
an alt attribute? A quick Google search tells me this has not been
discussed before.
Your search was too quick...we are
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Benjamin
Hawkes-Lewisbhawkesle...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 10/08/2009 02:22, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
E.g. when you tab onto avideo element, the alt tag could give a
very brief summary as to what the video is about, e.g. Elephant
Dreams video.
Don't the
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