Re: [whatwg] The iframe element and sandboxing ideas

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Adam Barth wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Indeed. If someone can come up with a way of making this work in legacy UAs, I'd certainly be happy to change the spec to do that. Here's a suggestion. When requesting the contents of

Re: [whatwg] Parsing RFC3339 constructs

2009-04-27 Thread Julian Reschke
Michael(tm) Smith wrote: Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch, 2009-04-25 05:35 +: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Asbjørn Ulsberg wrote: Reading the spec, I have to wonder: Does HTML5 need to specify as much as it does inline? Can't more of it be referenced to ISO 8601 or even better; RFC 3339? I really

Re: [whatwg] When closing the browser

2009-04-27 Thread Bil Corry
Ian Hickson wrote on 4/24/2009 6:36 PM: Why do session cookies not address this already? I think there are still scenarios where it would be valuable for the server to know *exactly when* the user logged out. One example would be those XY is online badges you see in many internet forums

Re: [whatwg] Script/parser interaction bug?

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:01:12 + (UTC), Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: It seems the problem is that when the pending external script is executed, the pause flag isn't set to false afterwards. I've put the increment/decrement steps around

Re: [whatwg] When closing the browser

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Bil Corry wrote: Ian Hickson wrote on 4/24/2009 6:36 PM: Why do session cookies not address this already? I think there are still scenarios where it would be valuable for the server to know *exactly when* the user logged out. One example would be those XY is

Re: [whatwg] When closing the browser

2009-04-27 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: One option would be to have an attribute, say body logout=, which causes the user agent to ping the site when the window is closed and there are no other windows open to the same origin. Of course this would break if the other

Re: [whatwg] Editorial for application/x-www-form-urlencoded encoding algorithm

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Regarding 4.10 http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/forms.html Forms - HTML 5: Is: 1. For each character in the entry's name and value that cannot be expressed using the selected character encoding, replace the

Re: [whatwg] When closing the browser

2009-04-27 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Ian Hickson schrieb: One option would be to have an attribute, say body logout=, Maybe link rel=logout href=... is more suitable? which causes the user agent to ping the site when the window is closed and there are no other windows open to the same origin. Of course this would break if

Re: [whatwg] Usage one of more v. one or more (was: Re: Editorial for application/x-www-form-urlencoded encoding algorithm)

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Corprew Reed wrote: This section also contains one of more characters and should be one or more characters. This occurs in 2.4.3.1, 2.4.3.2, and 4.10.15.3[.6] in http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/ One of more resources occurs in 5.8.2 and should

Re: [whatwg] Parsing RFC3339 constructs

2009-04-27 Thread Asbjørn Ulsberg
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:59:11 +0200, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: - the literal letters T and Z must be uppercase Any technical reason why they have to? Any reason why they don't? It would help people understand what the difference to RFC 3339 is. Indeed, and this is

Re: [whatwg] Reconstructing formatting elements (8.2.5)

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: I have a question about how formatting elements are reconstructed when dealing with tainted tables. Specifically, the fine folks running westjet.com stuck some malformed HTML on their site that I've boiled down to the following snippet: table

Re: [whatwg] dl definition issue

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Rikkert Koppes wrote: At the dl element definition [1] a) The order of the list of groups, and of the names and values within each group, may be significant. b) The |dl http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-dl-element| element is inappropriate for

Re: [whatwg] eventsource/RemoteEventSource wierdness

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Michael Nordman wrote: One key feature that IMHO is needed in this area is sharing of events between pages/windows A cross-page event broadcast facility is co-mingled with the DOMStorage corner of the spec (see 5.11.1.5 The storage event). It may be nice to carve

Re: [whatwg] Out-of-document media elements delaying the load event

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Robert O'Callahan wrote: Should media elements that are loading, haven't reached HAVE_CURRENT_DATA, but are not actually in the document delay the load event for their owner document? Yes. The spec doesn't say elements that delay the load event have to be in the

Re: [whatwg] several messages

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Rikkert Koppes wrote: The example presented at the section element definition [1]. The given markup could be ok, however, with a look at the actual contents (a nice essay about apples), the h1 elements found in the section elements should actually be h2 elements, giving

Re: [whatwg] Reconstructing formatting elements (8.2.5)

2009-04-27 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:15:30 + (UTC), Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: The behavior HTML5 requires is thus intentional for compat with IE. We could avoid cloning quite as many by eating whitespace after a table-related tag (tr, td, etc) by resetting the table taint flag at those

Re: [whatwg] MAP should be transparent

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: The MAP element should be transparent. If it contains only AREA elements, it is invisible and it can belong to phrasing content; it is best placed alongside the IMG element that uses it; even the example

Re: [whatwg] size attribute

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: For implementors: The size attribute gives the average number of glyphs that the reader of the page will be able to see when the control is rendered and completely filled with text. (This depends on the language of the control and the current

Re: [whatwg] Worker and message port feedback

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I do not think there is a problem with providing self.cookie in workers, exposing the cookie of the script. However, currently there doesn't seem to be much support for this.

[whatwg] Toggling Attributes

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Christoph P�per wrote: Ian Hickson (2009-02-13): There are three of these attributes so far: autocomplete = on/off contenteditable = true/false draggable = true/false It would be nice, actually, from an author perspective at least, if all of these worked

Re: [whatwg] Web Addresses vs Legacy Extended IRI

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Giovanni Campagna wrote: As far as I can tell the LEIRI requirements aren't actually an accurate description of what browsers do. My question was more specific: what are the *techical differences* betwen LEIRI and Web Addresses? I don't think there's a complete

Re: [whatwg] Web Addresses vs Legacy Extended IRI

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Julian Reschke wrote: Ian Hickson wrote: Note that the Web addresses draft isn't specific to HTML5. It is intended to apply to any user agent that interacts with Web content, not just Web browsers and HTML. (That's why we took it out of HTML5.) Be careful;

Re: [whatwg] Link.onload; defer on style, depends

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Greg Houston wrote: On a side note, I can actually attach a functioning onload event to a link element in Internet Explorer. Firefox, Safari, and Chrome ignore my attempt, and Opera will fire the onload event but not

Re: [whatwg] Link.onload; defer on style, depends

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Sean Hogan wrote: Ian Hickson wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Boris Zbarsky wrote: Sean Hogan wrote: This is a request for the link element to be given an onload attribute. And presumably a readyState property. At least in Gecko, you can already

Re: [whatwg] registerProtocolHandler() in HTML 5 is not sufficient for real use

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Mithgol the Webmaster wrote: For a real web application dealing with non-standard URL schemes, having just registerProtocolHandler() is not enough for effective management of URLs, there should be some other function (or, better, an HTTP request header) to provide

Re: [whatwg] Link.onload; defer on style, depends

2009-04-27 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Ian Hickson wrote: The spec requires the page 'load' event to be fired asynchronously. (There's no black-box way to distinguish this from the case of waiting for the other 'load' events to have fired, as far as I can tell.) Phrased that way, yes. But maybe I wasn't clear on the exact

Re: [whatwg] Link.onload; defer on style, depends

2009-04-27 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Boris Zbarsky wrote: Ian Hickson wrote: The spec requires the page 'load' event to be fired asynchronously. (There's no black-box way to distinguish this from the case of waiting for the other 'load' events to have fired, as far as I can tell.) Phrased that way, yes. Or did I misunderstand

[whatwg] Image.src and file://

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, ddailey wrote: If we make a puzzle of 2n-squared minus 1 (e.g. a puzzle of 15) in which web site visitors can slide tiles around through a grid, we might wish to detect, through script, when the puzzle has been solved. This means interrogating the value of Image.src