Re: [whatwg] same-origin versus same origin
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Anne van Kesteren wrote: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/ has some usage of same-origin while it seems that the intention is for it to be all same origin. I'd prefer if it was all same origin (apart from tokens, of course) as that's what I/I'll use in XLMHttpRequest et al. The intent is to use same-origin when the term is used as an adjective and same origin when it is used as a noun phrase. That, as far as I understand, is correct English grammar. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
Re: [whatwg] URL and Document
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Anne van Kesteren wrote: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#url says that URL is always associated with a Document. What does that mean for the second argument of postMessage? Or for the value of Websocket-Origin? The paragraph continues and eventually says for this case that: the associated Document is the script's /script document context/. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
Re: [whatwg] [WF2] |min| and |max| number of selected |option|s
On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Christoph Päper wrote: ... When using input type=checkbox or select multiple one somtimes wants to limit the number of selected check boxes or options. Could you provide some examples of some sites that need to apply such limits, and show how people are currently achieving this? Are there sites that use JavaScript to achieve this now, perhaps by listening for click events on the checkboxes, counting how many are checked and then preventing too many being checked. Or are there sites that count how many are checked onsubmit to ensure there aren't too few or too many? ... http://www.drugstore.com/qxc44_333181_sespider/sample_center/ sample_center.htm invites you to choose up to three free samples. Choosing more than three is detected after submission, returning you to the same page with an error message. http://www.diggerslist.com/register.php asks you to choose up to three areas of specialty. This is handled using three option menus containing exactly the same options. Choosing the same option twice or thrice, though probably a human error, is accepted without complaint. http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/livinginwales/nameyourhouse/housename.swf invites you to specify up to three features of your house. The design annoyingly requires each choice to be confirmed separately followed by a Would you like to choose another? alert. It is implemented using Flash, though it would be easy to implement in HTML and JavaScript. http://www.oup.com/elt/global/products/goodgrammarbook/menu/apretest/ invites you to select up to five topics of English grammar using checkboxes. Whenever five checkboxes are checked, all unchecked checkboxes are disabled. It is implemented using Flash, though again it would be easy to implement in HTML and JavaScript. http://members.c-span.org/Subscribe.aspx requires you to choose at least one of two alert types, and at least one of five programmes. In both cases, selecting zero is detected after submission, returning you to the same page with an error message. http://www.nicelabel.com/Products/Product-Selector invites you to select at least one of four label types. Submitting the form with zero selected is detected using a script that reveals the text Please, choose at least one option. This text was there all the time, just hidden, so would be confusing in UAs that disregarded CSS. A browser supplied with min= and max= attribute values could provide more consistent and timely error prevention in all these cases. One challenge would be conveying the minimum and maximum requirement where the form's initial selection was outside the allowed range (most commonly where a minimum is required but no options are selected by default); without having the site author's knowledge about where an error message can sensibly be inserted in the page, a browser might need to use tooltips or help balloons instead. Cheers -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ ---AV Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM)---
[whatwg] language quibbles: either works Re: same-origin versus same origin
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:17:50 -0400, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Anne van Kesteren wrote: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/ has some usage of same-origin while it seems that the intention is for it to be all same origin. I'd prefer if it was all same origin (apart from tokens, of course) as that's what I/I'll use in XLMHttpRequest et al. The intent is to use same-origin when the term is used as an adjective and same origin when it is used as a noun phrase. That, as far as I understand, is correct English grammar. Actually I am pretty sure that either are correct in the context of an attempt to describe the usage that constitutes english grammar. English grammar, unlike many other languages, does not have a formal definition, nor any body capable of making one. This lack of formal precision is a drawback when using it to describe technical things - but one counterbalanced by the fact that many of the people who want to understand the descriptions have some level of familiarity with it. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera 9.5: http://www.opera.com
Re: [whatwg] language quibbles: either works Re: same-origin versus same origin
Connect adjectives with a hyphen, do not connect an adjective to a noun. This rule is no rocket science and it is common knowledge and its usage is much broader than English (although there are languages that prefer to glue adjectives together). Do you disagree? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles McCathieNevile Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:52 PM To: Ian Hickson; Anne van Kesteren Cc: WHATWG Subject: [whatwg] language quibbles: either works Re: same-origin versus same origin On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:17:50 -0400, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Anne van Kesteren wrote: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/ has some usage of same-origin while it seems that the intention is for it to be all same origin. I'd prefer if it was all same origin (apart from tokens, of course) as that's what I/I'll use in XLMHttpRequest et al. The intent is to use same-origin when the term is used as an adjective and same origin when it is used as a noun phrase. That, as far as I understand, is correct English grammar. Actually I am pretty sure that either are correct in the context of an attempt to describe the usage that constitutes english grammar. English grammar, unlike many other languages, does not have a formal definition, nor any body capable of making one. This lack of formal precision is a drawback when using it to describe technical things - but one counterbalanced by the fact that many of the people who want to understand the descriptions have some level of familiarity with it. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo espanol -- jeg larer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera 9.5: http://www.opera.com
