[whatwg] Trying to work out the problems solved by RDFa

2008-12-31 Thread Ian Hickson
One of the outstanding issues for HTML5 is the question of whether HTML5 should solve the problem that RDFa solves, e.g. by embedding RDFa straight into HTML5, or by some other method. Before I can determine whether we should solve this problem, and before I can evaluate proposals for solving

[whatwg] asynchronous data providers

2008-12-31 Thread Alex Russell
Hello, As per a discussion with Ian on IRC, several issues jumped out at me when looking over the proposed data provider APIs for the datagrid tag (DataGridDataProvider).: * most of the APIs for providing data are synchronous, implying that the entire data set be local or that systems that

Re: [whatwg] number-related feedback

2008-12-31 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Shannon wrote: Either

Re: [whatwg] Spellchecking mark III

2008-12-31 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Dec 30, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Kornel Lesiński wrote: On 30.12.2008, at 13:45, Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: I have therefore not added this feature to HTML5 for the time being. If there is more interest in this feature, please speak up. This seems stupid. If I want to have spell-checking, let

Re: [whatwg] Spellchecking mark III

2008-12-31 Thread Kornel Lesiński
On 31.12.2008, at 15:15, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: It does make sense I guess, that certain fields should not be subject to automatic spellchecking. However, three counterpoints: 1) At least Safari's spellchecking won't mark a word misspelled until you hit a space; fields that contain data

Re: [whatwg] Spellchecking mark III

2008-12-31 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: 2) The proposal Hixie linked seems way overengineered for this purpose. First, it allows spellchecking to be explicitly turned on, potentially overriding normal defaults, but that seems wrong; an input type=email should

Re: [whatwg] Spellchecking mark III

2008-12-31 Thread timeless
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: That handles some cases, but not others --- e.g. text boxes that contain program code. I run spell checkers on code blocks. the number of misspellings that could have been avoided by using them they're

Re: [whatwg] Spellchecking mark III

2008-12-31 Thread timeless
2008/12/30 Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com: maybe we could just say that spellchecking is disabled when type is not text (for email, uri and number you have validation) and when a pattern attribute is specified Personally, if I were to write Gionvanni Campagna into a multiline text

Re: [whatwg] number-related feedback

2008-12-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008, Jonas Sicking wrote: So how would something like input maxlength=50 be parsed? Is it defined in terms of setting the .maxLength DOM attribute, so that its behavior depends on what WebIDL says? Or something else? The UA would set a limit on the value it

Re: [whatwg] number-related feedback

2008-12-31 Thread Cameron McCormack
Hi Ian, Jonas. Ian Hickson: The UA would set a limit on the value it accepts for maxlength=, and then cap the result at that, preventing someone from entering more than 4GB (or 2GB, or 4TB, or whatever limit the UA has). Does that answer your question? In practice I would expect other

Re: [whatwg] Spellchecking mark III

2008-12-31 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Dec 31, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: 2) The proposal Hixie linked seems way overengineered for this purpose. First, it allows spellchecking to be explicitly turned on, potentially overriding normal

Re: [whatwg] Spellchecking mark III

2008-12-31 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Dec 31, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: A use case is editable program code, where spellchecking is disabled, but where spellchecking is enabled inside comments. Maybe that sounds a little far-fetched for

Re: [whatwg] Trying to work out the problems solved by RDFa

2008-12-31 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Summary: I believe that there are use cases for RDFa - and that they are precisely the sort of thing that Yahoo, Google, Ask, and their ilk are not going to be interested in, since they are based on solving problems that those search engines do not efficiently solve, such as (among others)