We should also tighten up the language so that the poster must be shown up
until playback begins
Yes, please
or a seek completes, rather than can be shown though.
No, this won't work. I don't want the poster to be shown during a seek so
the question of showing it until seek completes
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote:
No, this won’t work. I don’t want the poster to be shown during a seek so
the question of showing it until seek completes is moot.
I think Chris meant that the poster should remain shown if the user
chose to seek
On 20 Sep 2010, at 23:38, Shiv Kumar wrote:
For the first scenario I’d like to propose that we have a validationMessage
attribute
Attributes should be avoided for text to be presented to human beings, because
such text may need to be marked up, e.g. for changes in language (span lang),
for
no.
it is not ok to allow content authors to refuse to deliver content
unless they are full screen.
having events which enable providers to hold users hostage is a bad thing.
if i have two screens today and try to watch a youtube video full
screen (with flash), it tries to unfullscreen when my
In HTML5, a URL (or a set of URLs) point at what you want the
user-agent to display. From the spec's point of view, you can insert
any protocol (that can be described by a URL) in there. You'll need it
to be supported by your user-agent, of course.
In practice, live streaming works with HTTP
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote:
In practice, live streaming works with HTTP and either Ogg or WebM in at
least Firefox
and Opera (maybe Chromium, too), since Ogg and WebM don't require the length
of the
video to be known in advance.
I run a HTML5
Henri Sivonen wrote:
In HTML5, a URL (or a set of URLs) point at what you want the
user-agent to display. From the spec's point of view, you can insert
any protocol (that can be described by a URL) in there. You'll need it
to be supported by your user-agent, of course.
In practice, live
I run a HTML5 streaming business. I use icecast to send Ogg with
Theora+Vorbis. It works splendidly in Opera and Firefox. Chromium has
some problems because they use ffmpeg which is not always that good
when decoding Theora, but if I use the old, bad versions of Theora, it
also works in
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote:
Now as far as how to fix this is concerned, I've repeatedly provided use
cases for why the load() may not work (won't satisfy one of the use cases
I've cited) as well as why the load() method shouldn't be used
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nzwrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com
wrote:
No, this won’t work. I don’t want the poster to be shown during a seek so
the question of showing it until seek completes is moot.
I
22.09.10 Rich Tibbett ri...@opera.com:
Would it be possible to provide JS-based method to capture an
individual frame from a video element?
With many demos that copy stuff from video to canvas, isn't that
already possible today?
--
Nils Dagsson Moskopp // erlehmann
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nzwrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote:
Removing the poster attribute is an option to turn the poster off but
there is no way to turn it back on again.
You just need
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:14:34 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer
silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Chris Double
chris.dou...@double.co.nzwrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote:
Removing the poster attribute is an option
Consider this code:
gradient.addColorStop(1.0,rgba( 0, 0, 0, 0);
where |gradient| is a canvas radial gradient. Note the lack of ')' at
the end of the rgba string there.
What's the correct behavior? The spec says:
If the color cannot be parsed as a CSS color, then a SYNTAX_ERR
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:47:02 +0200, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
Clearly I happen to think Gecko's behavior is the sane one here, but
there's a clear interoperability problem either way. Certainly Opera
and Gecko interpreted the spec differently.
Might be the way we invoke the CSS
Benjamin,
In principle sure, But you already have attributes being used to present
text to users.
1. All the value attributes of say input elements, text area etc.
This suggestion has been made so as to make this feature a quite a bit more
useable then it is. It's not the end all be all solution
no.
it is not ok to allow content authors to refuse to deliver content
unless they are full screen.
What? Is this anything to do with the original post?
Shiv
http://exposureroom.com
22.09.10 Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com:
no.
it is not ok to allow content authors to refuse to deliver content
unless they are full screen.
What? Is this anything to do with the original post?
It has indeed. With a platform like The Web, one should expect every
feature provided to be
You just need to remember the value of the poster element before you remove
it - then you can set it back later.
Silvia, have you tried this?
Remember that at this time the poster never comes back on after the video
has ended even if the poster attribute is set.
Shiv
I've changed the subject of this post in the hopes that it receives the
correct attention.
As per the current spec:
quote
WARNING!
User agents should not provide a public API to cause videos to be shown
full-screen. A script, combined with a carefully crafted video file, could
trick the
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Rich Tibbett ri...@opera.com wrote:
Nils Dagsson Moskopp wrote:
22.09.10 Rich Tibbettri...@opera.com:
Would it be possible to provide JS-based method to capture an
individual frame from avideo element?
With many demos that copy stuff fromvideo
That's Flash's behavior, not YouTube's choice - we'd love to allow
fullscreen usage on one screen while focus is in another. This is the right
way to do it, though - content can* *request changes to the fullscreen
state, but the User Agent is ultimately responsible for granting or denying
that
On 21/09/2010 20:22, Shiv Kumar wrote:
Now in order for anyone to be able to provide their own skin/player,
we’ll need to provide a scriptable way to switch the video element to
full screen and out including events to support the same.
There have been previous discussions about allowing
Hi folks,
While implementing the latest setVersion changes I came across this problem:
Let's say that a site is open in two different windows and each
decides to do a setVersion request at the same time. Only one of them
can win, obviously, and the other must end up calling close() on
itself or
Sorry folks, this went to the wrong list! Please ignore.
-Ben
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, ben turner bent.mozi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
While implementing the latest setVersion changes I came across this problem:
Let's say that a site is open in two different windows and each
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote:
Yes, I guess in way. Including it in a spec gives them guidelines so the
chances of all implementers providing the same info goes up. I think that is
the point of the spec (providing guidelines).
No, the main point of
On 21.09.2010 21:01, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote:
Resources that should be cached (stylesheets, images) but change at
unexpected times are indeed a problem.
A well understood approach is to push some kind of version
On 22 Sep 2010, at 22:10, Philipp Serafin wrote:
One disadvantage I think the version-in-URI approach has is that it's
completely transparent to the HTTP caching system. In particular, it
doesn't give caches any information about when a resource is expired.
This isn't really an issue if you
(Re-sending this email which was only addressed to Aryeh by mistake.)
On 09/21/2010 09:43 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
I think only Opera has UI at all), so it's best to just
not use it for now.
Firefox nightlies too. Will be in Firefox 4 beta 7.
On 09/21/2010 10:35 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote:
That
Hello whatwg!
Many developers, js libraries, and frameworks interact with colors in a
variety ways in their pages and apps. One common action they perform in many
of these interactions is to convert colors between RGB and HEX. A fair
amount of js is needed to do this type of thing, see the
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote:
Come now Aryeh :). Imagine this scenario. On a web page/form, I'm asking the
user to enter her social security number and she sees a message You have to
specify a value, you're saying that sounds ok to you? Oh, and the
I propose that we provide a way for developers to get all color
equivalents of a valid color string - red, #ff0, rgb(255, 0, 0).
I've gone through similar and painful motions. So yes, I'd like to see easy
ways to get this conversion/information.
xxxAsRgb()
xxxToRgb()
xxxAsHex()
On 9/22/10 5:51 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Shiv Kumarsku...@exposureroom.com wrote:
Come now Aryeh :). Imagine this scenario. On a web page/form, I'm asking the user to enter her
social security number and she sees a message You have to specify a value, you're
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that Firefox is buggy here
and treats setCustomValidity('') as setting the error message to ''
instead of removing it, as the spec says, but when that's fixed it
will work.
I take it back. Firefox and Opera do
And yes, you could always conceive of simple declarative
APIs that would do this stuff,
Hmm... so you admit, it's simple. That's a start!
but you just can't add those for every
single feature someone wants.
I guess not :) Even if it makes it simpler, more approachable and more useful.
Shiv
On 22 Sep 2010, at 16:14, Shiv Kumar wrote:
In principle sure,
Glad you agree on the principle.
But you already have attributes being used to present text to users.
HTML usually adopts the good pattern of putting human-readable text that might
benefit from markup in elements (e.g. label,
New features should perpetuate the good paradigm represented by the label
element, not the bad paradigm represented by the title attribute.
Ok, I get it. That makes sense
So can we have a errorLabel tag where the for attribute can point to the
control in question? Or is that going against the
I am concerned about some aspects of section 7.6.1 in the HTML5
specification, relating to Selection objects. My main concern is that
some parts do not match current browser behaviour, in particular
relating to backwards selections (i.e. where the focus point comes
before the anchor point within
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote:
I’ve changed the subject of this post in the hopes that it receives the
correct attention…
As per the current spec:
quote
WARNING!
User agents should not provide a public API to cause videos to be shown
On 09/22/2010 02:51 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
data:text/html,!doctype htmlforminput name=x required
oninvalid=this.setCustomValidity(''); if (!this.validity.valid)
this.setCustomValidity('abcd') input type=submit/form
In a Firefox 4 nightly, when I click the submit button, the error is
just
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Mounir Lamouri
mounir.lamo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/22/2010 02:51 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
data:text/html,!doctype htmlforminput name=x required
oninvalid=this.setCustomValidity(''); if (!this.validity.valid)
this.setCustomValidity('abcd') input
I've found a typo in 8.6.1 APIs for the browsing context selection.
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/editing.html#documentSelection
In the green box, we can find a definition as below.
collapsed = selection . isCollapsed()
As far as I've read the section 8.6.1, I
I actually think that the customerrormessage attribute that has been
suggested is a decent solution too.
So it looks like Jonas and Mounir concur. That's great!
All you'd need to do
is install an event handler for the invalid event, and in that
handler do something like
On 2010-09-22 21:56, ben turner wrote:
Sorry folks, this went to the wrong list! Please ignore.
-Ben
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, ben turnerbent.mozi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
While implementing the latest setVersion changes I came across this problem:
Let's say that a site is
What does other DB's like MySQL do? My guess is a busy/try again error
right?
They'll continue and finish the transaction if the locks are removed before
the timeout. If the timeout expires they'll throw a deadlock exception and
the transaction will be rolled back.
Shiv
http://exposureroom.com
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