Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:14:12 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: If the available bandwidth exceeds the bandwidth of the resource, some kind of throttling must eventually be used. There are mainly 2 options

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-20 Thread Jeroen Wijering
On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: (Since there is some overhead with each HTTP request, one must make sure that they are not unreasonably small.) When HTTP byte ranges are used to achieve bandwidth management, it's hard to talk about a single downloadBufferTarget that

Re: [whatwg] Value of media.currentTime immediately after setting

2011-01-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:20:09 +0100, Matthew Gregan kine...@flim.org wrote: Hi, The media seek algorithm (4.8.10.9) states that the current playback position should be set to the new playback position during the asynchronous part of the algorithm, just before the seeking event is fired.

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-20 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: However, it'd be great if all implementors could agree on the same interpretation of states. Specifically, this isn't required by the spec but would still be helpful to have consistency in: * effective state can only

Re: [whatwg] Value of media.currentTime immediately after setting

2011-01-20 Thread Eric Carlson
On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:46 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:20:09 +0100, Matthew Gregan kine...@flim.org wrote: Hi, The media seek algorithm (4.8.10.9) states that the current playback position should be set to the new playback position during the asynchronous part of

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-20 Thread Zachary Ozer
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: * effective state can only increase to higher states, never go from e.g. metadata to none (it makes no sense) What if my bandwidth situation improves (moving from 3g to WiFi, for example)? At that point, perhaps I should

Re: [whatwg] Can we remove forminput and formchange events and related dispatch methods?

2011-01-20 Thread Olli Pettay
On 10/22/2010 10:09 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Erik Arvidssona...@chromium.org wrote: On Oct 22, 2010 2:00 AM, Anne van Kesterenann...@opera.com wrote: Yeah, I don't mind moving these features to libraries. Anyone implemented them apart from Opera? Neither

[whatwg] Browsers delay window.print() action until page load finishes

2011-01-20 Thread Alexey Proskuryakov
There seems to be no provision in the spec for a behavior Firefox and IE (and now WebKit-based browsers, too) have. If window.print() is called during page load, then its action is delayed until loading is finished. The WebKit bug that changed this most recently is

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-20 Thread Roger Hågensen
On 2011-01-20 19:16, Zachary Ozer wrote: == New Proposal == I like this. It seems you laid out everything to ensure a balanced buffer, kinda like a moving window buffer which I pointed out earlier. So as far as I can see, your proposal looks pretty solid, unless there are any implementation

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-20 Thread Zachary Ozer
We never make any promises about when we'll get something into an official release, but I think we'd start playing around with it in our development version once a reference implementation was publicly available. -- Zachary Ozer Developer, LongTail Video w: longtailvideo.com • e:

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-20 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Zachary Ozer z...@longtailvideo.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: I think that pausing shouldn't affect read-ahead buffering behavior.  I'd suggest another preload value, preload=buffer, sitting between metadata and