Re: [whatwg] MediaController feedback

2012-06-05 Thread Jer Noble
On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Jer Noble wrote: I'm currently working on implementing MediaController in WebKit https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71341, and have a couple pieces of feedback from an implementor's POV: *

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen events dispatched to elements

2012-06-05 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Jer Noble jer.no...@apple.com wrote: Actually, in WebKit, we explicitly also message the document from which the element was removed in that case. I don't see why this behavior couldn't be standardized. Did you inform the spec editor(s) when you decided to

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen events dispatched to elements

2012-06-05 Thread Jer Noble
On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: If you implemented that proposal as-is then authors would usually need a listener on the document as well as the element, and as Chris pointed out, it's simpler to just always listen on the document. Is that true

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen events dispatched to elements

2012-06-05 Thread Olli Pettay
On 06/05/2012 09:31 AM, Jer Noble wrote: On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: If you implemented that proposal as-is then authors would usually need a listener on the document as well as the element, and as Chris pointed out, it's simpler to just always

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen events dispatched to elements

2012-06-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Jer Noble jer.no...@apple.com wrote: Actually, in WebKit, we explicitly also message the document from which the element was removed in that case.  I don't see why this behavior couldn't be standardized. Why should we standardize this if we always notify the

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen events dispatched to elements

2012-06-05 Thread Vincent Scheib
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Jer Noble jer.no...@apple.com wrote: Actually, in WebKit, we explicitly also message the document from which the element was removed in that case.  I don't see why this behavior couldn't

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen events dispatched to elements

2012-06-05 Thread Jer Noble
On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:06 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: Why should we standardize this if we always notify the document? Is there a benefit to notifying both the element and the document? I think Vincent put forward a reasonable argument. The document is a finite, shared

Re: [whatwg] video and audio tags need to have volume attribute.

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011, crocket wrote: I know that it's possible to manipulate the volume attribute with javascript. Many internet forums allow HTML tags but prohibit javascripts, however. If I was able to set the initial volume with volume attribute of those tags, I would be able to set the

Re: [whatwg] I have feature requests for video and audio tags.

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
Oops, I found more e-mails on the thread to which I just asked for a use case, which gave a use case: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, crocket wrote: video and audio tags need volume attribute. I know that it's possible to manipulate the volume attribute with javascript. But many internet forums

Re: [whatwg] video element not ready for prime time

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Francis Boumphrey wrote: A few comments about the video element from the point of view of an HTML author. Currently it is not particularly useful, and there is nothing to encourage me to use it rather than embed Firstly if I use a video with the src attribute e.g.

Re: [whatwg] video element not ready for prime time

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Kit Grose wrote: On 13/01/2012, at 4:46 AM, Francis Boumphrey wrote: Firstly if I use a video with the src attribute e.g. video src='myvideo.mp4' controls and my user agent does not support the format, all I get (in my versions of Opera and Firefox) is a

Re: [whatwg] sources in video by quality as well as codec

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Rodger Combs wrote: I propose that source add a quality, bitrate, or filesize attribute to allow the UA to decide between multiple streams by choosing the maximum quality file that it can download within a reasonable amount of time (e.g. it will download faster than it

Re: [whatwg] MediaController feedback

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Jer Noble wrote: This too looks good. We already store the results when we report the controller state, so at a first glance, exposing this property will be trivial. Make sure you're setting the attribute at the right time. There's some careful jumping through hoops

Re: [whatwg] MediaController feedback

2012-06-05 Thread Jer Noble
On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Jer Noble wrote: This too looks good. We already store the results when we report the controller state, so at a first glance, exposing this property will be trivial. Make sure you're setting the

[whatwg] Various HTML element feedback

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-01-21 0:30, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: I don’t think you have clarified whether var is suitable for physical quantities, but I guess you meant to imply it—even though there is not a single

Re: [whatwg] [Selectors4] case-insensitive attribute value matching (in XML)

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: Ian Hickson on Fri Jan 20 14:31:01 PST 2012: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Christoph Päper wrote: Anne van Kesteren: I'm still trying to get HTML and browsers to change so that attribute values always match case-sensitively, irrespective of markup

Re: [whatwg] Various HTML element feedback

2012-06-05 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-06-06 2:53, Ian Hickson wrote: I have rather been optimistic about future developments for markup elements that have been defined exactly enough to warrant meaningful semantics-based processing. For example, most of the uses mentioned in current text imply that var element contents should