Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Hickson
? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Specification unclear about how HTMLElement.prototype.onscroll's getter/setter should behave for body elements

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/3/12 7:33 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Note that onerror has a different type on HTMLElement and HTMLBodyElement. Yes, indeed. That's the biggest problem with forwarding to Window for the HTMLElement.prototype case for onerror here: the types

Re: [whatwg] Location object identity and navigation behavior

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Bobby Holley wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: In thinking about this further last night, it struck me that while the proposed proxy mechanism was IMHO overly complex, there might be a simpler mechanism that still gets all

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
it). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Forms-related feedback

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 20/11/12 22:51, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Mounir Lamouri wrote: At Mozilla, we think that the main use case for stepUp() and stepDown() is to create a UI with spin buttons: clicking on the up arrow would call stepUp

Re: [whatwg] Script-related feedback

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
, you've definitely lost already. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Location object identity and navigation behavior

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
model for twice, though, so I would have no trouble believing I screwed it up again... http://whatwg.org/html#security-3 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/7/13 6:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Most things don't have an origin. Pretty much everything has an origin in practice: it's associated with some Window, hence can be treated as having the same origin as that Window. Per spec, even Windows

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/7/13 11:28 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Per spec, even Windows actually don't have an origin. Things that have origins are URLs, Documents, images, audio and video elements, fonts, and scripts. Many of those things can have origins

Re: [whatwg] Need to define same-origin policy for WebIDL operations/getters/setters

2013-01-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/8/13 1:42 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/7/13 11:28 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: The check is the same -- if the Document that is the this to which the property is being applied doesn't match the origin of the script that is doing the applying

Re: [whatwg] menu and friends

2013-01-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2013, Jonas Sicking wrote: Gah, strongly agree. Simple example - I use Back constantly in the context menu, and would be really pissed if pages could easily

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Add CanvasRenderingContext2D.fillRule with nonzero (default) and evenodd options

2013-01-03 Thread Ian Hickson
how it could be part of the operator since it's a declarative language). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Add CanvasRenderingContext2D.fillRule with nonzero (default) and evenodd options

2013-01-03 Thread Ian Hickson
... If you could just file bugs for each mistake, that would be great. http://whatwg.org/newbug -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] ProgressEvents for Images

2013-01-03 Thread Ian Hickson
.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2013-01-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013, Cameron McCormack wrote: I'm wondering if anybody has had any further thoughts on how summary and details should be made stylable. Like most widgets, I think the answer is Web Components. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2013-01-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Like most widgets, I think the answer is Web Components. As far as I can tell styling form controls is an unsolved problem and Components does not seem to be tackling it. We always

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2013-01-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/2/13 4:37 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Wait, Web Components isn't solving this? I thought this was one of the main use cases of Web Components. [...] and it is certainly not doing: 4) Defining the browser-defined custom widgets using

Re: [whatwg] Sortable Tables

2012-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Dec 27, 2012 6:04 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: 2. What values should the sort property allow. One idea is that it takes a JS function similar to what JavaScript's sort function takes. If you leave it out then it just does

[whatwg] menu and friends

2012-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
in menu.) I would love input from implementors regarding whether this is something they are more interested in implementing than what came before. On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: 1. Styling of toolbars and menu buttons is just not defined. Toolbars could be a purely stylistic issue

Re: [whatwg] menu and friends

2012-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
direction. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Including HTML more directly into SVG

2012-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
world), and one where everything is positioned and if you want text you put in a text box (foreignObject, in our world). I don't know of any markup language or graphics system where paragraphs are conceptual siblings with paths and shapes. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] menu and friends

2012-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
items accessible from the main menu? What items are there that it sometimes makes sense to expose but othertimes does not make sense to expose? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Should scrollbars move focus?

2012-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Ojan Vafai wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Elliott Sprehn wrote: I was working on a bug recently where authors had complained about WebKit's behavior where clicking a scrollbar unfocuses

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Mikko Rantalainen wrote: Ian Hickson, 2012-10-24 19:28 (Europe/Helsinki): Anyway, if you have memory corruption there's nothing to say the corruption won't occur _after_ you've done the checksum verification. In particular, there's nothing to say it'll happen between

Re: [whatwg] Support of link rel=prefetch

2012-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Sortable Tables

2012-12-27 Thread Ian Hickson
, which lets the user tell the user agent to add sorted= attributes to columns to sort them. On Tue, 6 Nov 2012, Ojan Vafai wrote: On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, Christoph P�per wrote: For starters, only rows inside �tbody�s shall

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: dash list API

2012-12-22 Thread Ian Hickson
the dash state to an internal value, restores the context, then returns? Should the caller, if they then grab the dashed line object from the context, get the internal value of the library? Should the restore() call mutate the saved dash object? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] video feedback

2012-12-21 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Jer Noble wrote: On Dec 17, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Should we add a preciseSeek() method with two arguments that does a seek using the given rational time? This method would be more useful if there were a way to retrieve the media's

Re: [whatwg] video feedback

2012-12-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Mark Callow wrote: On 2012/12/18 9:01, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Jer Noble wrote: The nature of floating point math makes precise frame navigation difficult, if not impossible. Rob's test is especially hairy, given that each frame has a timing bound

Re: [whatwg] video feedback

2012-12-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012, Mark Callow wrote: On 2012/12/21 2:54, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Mark Callow wrote: I draw your attention to Don't Store that in a float http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/dont-store-that-in-a-float/ and its suggestion to use a double starting

Re: [whatwg] Resource loading in browsing context-less Documents

2012-12-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/18/12 3:25 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Looking at the spec and at browsers more carefully, it seems that this is actually per spec (i.e. the spec says to follow the link). Does it say to do that if the ownerDocument of the a has no associated

Re: [whatwg] Resource loading in browsing context-less Documents

2012-12-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/19/12 12:11 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: So I've put in a block on the handling of a (and area) elements specifically, making their activation behaviour nil if their doc doesn't have a browsing context Does a document that is in something like

Re: [whatwg] Submitting contentEditable Content In A Form

2012-12-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Hugh Guiney wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I haven't added this, because contenteditable= is only truly useful with scripting enabled, and it's basically one line of script to support shunting the current value into a hidden

Re: [whatwg] Resource loading in browsing context-less Documents

2012-12-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/19/12 12:37 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Yes, just not an active one. OK. I don't think we want to activate links in unloaded documents, personally That's probably reasonable... Do you have a test case? :-) -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] Standardizing Console object

2012-12-18 Thread Ian Hickson
/library/safari/#documentation/appleapplications/Conceptual/Safari_Developer_Guide/DebuggingYourWebsite/DebuggingYourWebsite.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40007874-CH8-SW31 It's one of the specs on the TODO list: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Specs_todo Looking for volunteers! -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Firing WebStorage storage event

2012-12-18 Thread Ian Hickson
that Document objects have Storage objects, which I don't think is true. Is my understanding correct? What am I missing? This text was poorly written. I've fixed it. Thanks. Let me know if the new text is still confusing! -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL

Re: [whatwg] Details on window.open

2012-12-18 Thread Ian Hickson
opened, most recently focused, or more closely related. What is the consistent manner in each implementation? I do not know. I hope that this doesn't matter for interop; if I'm wrong, let me know and we shall spec it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL

Re: [whatwg] Null characters

2012-12-18 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Cameron Zemek wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I could add a note... based on what Boris described, what would you want the note to say and where would you want it placed, such that you would have seen it when your original

[whatwg] Canvas-related feedback

2012-12-17 Thread Ian Hickson
, but I'd really rather not get into the nitty gritty of the maths if it can at all be avoided. I've tried to do as you describe, though. On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dirk Schulze wrote: On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: The only situation that might be reasonable would

Re: [whatwg] video feedback

2012-12-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Jer Noble wrote: On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, adam k wrote: i'm aware that crooked framerates (i.e. the notorious 29.97) were not supported when frame accuracy was implemented. in my tests, 29.97DF timecodes

Re: [whatwg] Feature Request: Media Elements as Targets for Links

2012-12-17 Thread Ian Hickson
playing at a particular time, without any scripts involved? Or is this just an internal-to-the-page thing? As in, you want to be able to, from within a page, cause a media element to seek to a specific time, in response to user interaction, without script? Or is relying on scripting ok? -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] events when navigating away before page load?

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Hickson
or not). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] API for unique identification of devices (mobile/tablet/pc)

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Hickson
and web-services. I don't understand what it would provide that would be better than the existing ability to use one's identity from an identity provider. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] API for unique identification of devices (mobile/tablet/pc)

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Hickson
is one of the Web's biggest strengths. It's a feature, not a bug. It makes the Web more competitive, not less. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] events when navigating away before page load?

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Hickson
, but that doesn't apply when the page is aborted because another page is going to replace it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Feedback on a variety of elements

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Hickson
. This approach may be more natural for a fluid design. Given how people are complaining that srcset= is complicated as it is, making it even worse doesn't seem like a winner to me. :-) On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Eric Portis wrote: On Tue May 15 00:28:54 PDT 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: In practice, the only

Re: [whatwg] events when navigating away before page load?

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Hickson
? (Note that session history is invoked when you load a page, and that pagehide is fired in the unload algorithm as well.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Why do HTML*Collection's nameItem need to return 5 different objects?

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 22:47:07 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1736 Webkit returns undefined, whereas IE, Gecko, and Opera all return an HTMLCollection. (IE returns

Re: [whatwg] API for unique identification of devices (mobile/tablet/pc)

2012-12-13 Thread Ian Hickson
device? Or moves their profile from one device to another? Or uses multiple virtual machines in one device? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Question on Limits in Adaption Agency Algorithm

2012-12-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: the order between abc and xyz is reversed in the tree. Does anyone have any preference for how this is fixed? Does it need to be fixed? That is, is it breaking real sites

Re: [whatwg] I believe source rectangles for HTML5 Canvas drawImage are specified incorrectly

2012-12-12 Thread Ian Hickson
undefined unless WebKit is OK with changing their current behavior. Leaving the spec undefined is not acceptable. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2012-12-11 Thread Ian Hickson
the context causes the bitmap and hit region list to be pushed to the canvas, replacing whatever was there before). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible

Re: [whatwg] metadata attribute for media

2012-12-11 Thread Ian Hickson
. - An author wants to display the embedded track title and artist name with simple scripting on a webpage. For music in particular this seems reasonable. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] I believe source rectangles for HTML5 Canvas drawImage are specified incorrectly

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Hickson
support. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: fallback section taking over for 4xx and 5xx responses while online

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Hickson
it fall back to locally-generated pages). But that seems like a weird thing to do... -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for public data in drag events

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Hickson
to me like you'd just use the category as part of the type and then the datagrid would accept certain types in certain places. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] gradient edge case

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Hickson
and backwards? On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Rik Cabanier wrote: Since Canvas has support for pattern, you could fairly easy emulate this behavior. I think it would be handy if you could add the 'reflect' idiom to patterns. Can't you just make the larger pattern and use that? -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] Quirks mode handling of rowspan=0

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Hickson
: Yes, it does: once all browsers agree, the barrier to entry for new entrants is lower because they just need to implement the behavior everyone already agrees on. That's the dream! -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Autocomplete and autofill features and feedback thereon

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Ilya Sherman wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Ilya Sherman wrote: The payment instrument type is almost certainly appropriate to add -- it is included on almost every website that I've encountered

Re: [whatwg] gradient edge case

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Hickson
, then certainly it makes sense to add it. But I've heard very few requests for this. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Autocomplete and autofill features and feedback thereon

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012, Ilya Sherman wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Finally, I have gotten a request to include a field type for bank account numbers, though I have only seen this info actually requested on a small handful of extremely

Re: [whatwg] Question on Limits in Adaption Agency Algorithm

2012-12-08 Thread Ian Hickson
preference for how this is fixed? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Controlling the UI on input type=date

2012-12-06 Thread Ian Hickson
to this. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-origin iframe seamless= (partly) usable

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
(different sizes for the iframes, different styles in the iframes). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Make the files attribute of the input element writable

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
. but there could be a MutableFileList or something. That feedback should be sent to the list mentioned at the top of the File API spec. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: allow itemid to record multiple identifiers for an item

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
, maybe? Or a new one, of course. I couldn't quite tell from the schema.org documentation if url was intended to do this. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
, possibly, yes. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Specification unclear about how HTMLElement.prototype.onscroll's getter/setter should behave for body elements

2012-12-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Peter Van der Beken wrote: On 04/12/12 01:33, Ian Hickson wrote: onscroll is a case where there's really no reason to use a different setter, agreed. So I've commented that out (and it's similar friends). That still leaves onerror though. The same change should

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Sniffing archives

2012-12-04 Thread Ian Hickson
. It's when one browser handles something as completely safe and another handles something as live, or when a browser displays a file differently than another browser, that there's a problem, really. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] Menus and Toolbars

2012-12-04 Thread Ian Hickson
. The spec has no Command interface. Do you mean HTMLCommandElement, or the command* attributes on HTMLElement? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-04 Thread Ian Hickson
the frame when I do the cross-origin seamless flags. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: allow itemid to record multiple identifiers for an item

2012-12-04 Thread Ian Hickson
not one whose name can be specified in itemprop=), and if it doesn't quite fit, it's fine to ignore it and use something else. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] allowfullscreen vs sandbox=allow-fullscreen

2012-12-04 Thread Ian Hickson
-using the spec machinery because it's good at solving problems like the above. Please do take a look at the patch and see if it does what you think it should. Some of the machinery is indeed re-used: http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=7563to=7564 -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] Specification unclear about how HTMLElement.prototype.onscroll's getter/setter should behave for body elements

2012-12-03 Thread Ian Hickson
for the body element. Which one is intended? What do browsers do? This should probably be defined in WebIDL. It relatess also to: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17201 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Specification unclear about how HTMLElement.prototype.onscroll's getter/setter should behave for body elements

2012-12-03 Thread Ian Hickson
(or one of B's descendants), where B is a subclass of A, and B defines its own method/getter/setter with the same name, then it should throw. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Canvas in Workers

2012-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
with zero-sized canvases that you'd try to draw from, though, I'm happy to change it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Firing all the the end messages on abort

2012-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 8/29/12 6:11 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Documents that are aborted do not need to work, they were aborted precisely because they don't need to work and are no longer needed. Or because once again some ad was taking forever to load and the web

Re: [whatwg] Make DOMStringMap constructable, and el.dataset writeable?

2012-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
things like mouse position. It would be somewhat cleaner if she could simply construct a DOMStringMap and assign it I don't really understand what you would do with the DOMStringMap and localStorage. Can you elaborate? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Make DOMStringMap constructable, and el.dataset writeable?

2012-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: She's making a game, where the game initialization script expects certain types of elements, and for the initial state data

[whatwg] Making cross-origin iframe seamless= (partly) usable

2012-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
, and then limiting the embedding to that URL using CSP. Is this a viable direction? (There was also some discussion about how it should maybe be possible to do cross-origin DOM access, but that isn't really an option, as was discussed in the thread, so I haven't explored it further.) -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Treating application/octet-stream as unknown for sniffing

2012-11-29 Thread Ian Hickson
could not get browser vendors to agree on what to implement. Search for the note starting This specification does not currently say whether or how to check the MIME types of the media resources. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] AppCache Error events

2012-11-29 Thread Ian Hickson
point, I get around to examining all the e-mails on a topic, and I try to determine what level of interest there is from implementors, and then I respond. Right now my lag is about four months, though it tends to be longer for requests for new features and shorter for major bug fixes. -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Adding crossorigin= to more elements

2012-11-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 11/28/12 7:42 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Done, at least on the HTML side. For now it just makes .sheet return null for cross-origin resources. Pretty sure that's not web-compatible... Yeah, I don't expect it is. This stuff is going to change

Re: [whatwg] A link rel=stylesheet scoped usecase

2012-11-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu wrote: (12/06/08 7:28), Ian Hickson wrote: It still seems like a bit of an edge case, so I think it's ok for us to continue to rely on @import for this for now. But we should keep an eye out for how often people use this technique; if it is indeed

Re: [whatwg] Exposing framerate / statistics of video playback and related feedback

2012-11-29 Thread Ian Hickson
the heavy lifting (potentially off the main thread). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Adding crossorigin= to more elements

2012-11-29 Thread Ian Hickson
crossorigin=, which was for img, where the default behaviour of cross-origin images as opposed to same-origin images is that they taint the canvas. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Load events fired during onload handlers

2012-11-29 Thread Ian Hickson
steps work like the the end steps.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Adding crossorigin= to more elements

2012-11-28 Thread Ian Hickson
of the page, since the page can make the style sheet dance as if it was its puppet. Anyway, that part of it belongs in CSS/CSSOM. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Prerendering and APIs

2012-11-28 Thread Ian Hickson
updated (.sheet now changes to null if you take the link or style out of the document), though I'll revisit this as part of: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14703 ...to make it more precise. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Add window.getLastError (or modify invocation arguments of window.onerror)

2012-11-28 Thread Ian Hickson
implementors interested in adding this? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt main

2012-11-27 Thread Ian Hickson
that it doesn't solve it all the time means it can't be relied upon, whereas the other elements have other purposes, so that they don't satisfy this 100% of the time doesn't make them pointless. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U

[whatwg] Menus and Toolbars

2012-11-27 Thread Ian Hickson
of? Are there features that we need to deal with that I haven't mentioned above? Are there use cases that we should just abandon that could simplify the solution drastically? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] ruby markup problems

2012-11-27 Thread Ian Hickson
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20115 (As a general rule I encourage people to prefer e-mail for feedback; this is an exception.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt main

2012-11-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: But we already have this. The main content is whatever content isn't marked up as not being main content (anything not marked

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] inner shadows

2012-11-24 Thread Ian Hickson
with the radius increased by half the line width. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] canvas and high-density displays

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: We could add an event that fires on ImageData (or even ArrayBuffer) that fires when the data is available. If we add it to ArrayBuffer it's something that could be used in other

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] inner shadows

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Tyler Larson wrote: On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Can't you do this using clip() easily enough? Maybe I'm missing something important here. Can you elaborate? Here is an example of what I am talking about. http://i.imgur.com/Sy4xM.png

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video seeking

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
, divs and lots of CSS, script, and ARIA attributes (this is what ARIA is useful for!). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] inner shadows

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Tyler Larson wrote: On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Can't you do this using clip() easily enough? Maybe I'm missing something important here. Can you elaborate? Here is an example of what I am

[whatwg] Enabling LCD Text and antialiasing in canvas

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Jeremy Apthorp wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Jeremy Apthorp jere...@chromium.orgwrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Jeremy Apthorp wrote: I'd like to draw non-antialiased lines in a canvas

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