Re: [whatwg] Rename the 7-arg arcTo() to ellipseTo()?

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
that means end of arguments, e.g. /. B 10,10 20,20 5 / 30,30 40,40 10 ...instead of: B 10,10 20,20 5 5 0 30,30 40,40 10 5 0 ...(where B is a command that takes the same arguments as arcTo().) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] Rename the 7-arg arcTo() to ellipseTo()?

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
that is hard to learn. As such, we're requesting that the canvas path API change to be consistent with itself, in the direction that we prefer. I believe the canvas API is adequately consistent with itself given the constraints facing this API's evolution, and so have not changed it. -- Ian Hickson

[whatwg] canvas and high-density displays

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
) and canvas (including the new path APIs) to mature before adding the combination. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] New URL Standard

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
it is only useful for saying whether or not content is conforming. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] New URL Standard

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Hickson
software, e.g. IE, with the result being that Web pages were not handled interoperably between these two software classes. This is the kind of thing we want to stop, by providing a single way to parse all input strings, valid or invalid, as URLs. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Rename the 7-arg arcTo() to ellipseTo()?

2012-09-23 Thread Ian Hickson
want. The Canvas arc commands, with their use of an angle to sweep across, are exactly what authors want a lot of the time, and commonly ask for. So introduce a new one-letter command that fixes specifically the problems with A, don't drag in the entire canvas path API. :-) -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Covert sharing of user agent state.

2012-09-23 Thread Ian Hickson
in the form of bugs will definitely get looked at but may still not get a detailed reply.) That said, I don't want to discourage anyone from creating any groups they want to create, so long as the above is well understood. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] matrix based changes on bitmaps

2012-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
is to provide generic ArrayBuffer manipulation routines. I recommend raising this as feedback on the ArrayBuffer spec. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] inner shadows

2012-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
a similar effect. http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background/#the-box-shadow Can we add this to the canvas shadows please? Can't you do this using clip() easily enough? Maybe I'm missing something important here. Can you elaborate? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] New canvas additions

2012-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
it is widely implemented. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] canvas miterLimit property

2012-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
possibly be less than the line width, otherwise it wouldn't be the outside of the join, no?). Its trivial to treat numbers 0.0 q = 1.0 as 1.0. No need to fail. Browsers (at least Opera, Safari, Firefox, and Chrome) consistently follow the spec here. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Rename the 7-arg arcTo() to ellipseTo()?

2012-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
of commands that work slightly differently is just bloat asking for interop issues, IMHO. The design of the path syntax makes sense, it's terse. Embrace its strengths, don't second-guess its design. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] isPointInPath on Path object

2012-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
create a new Path, then add another Path to it while applying a transform, using the addPath() method. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] canvas miterLimit property

2012-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
another inconsistency with SVG, where miter limit values less than 1.0 will be ignored as invalid. The main thing driving this API is back-compat with canvas implementations, not consistency with SVG. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] [Web-storage] subdomains / cooperation and limits

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Hickson
they do that are left up to implementations...is that correct? Yeah, all of this is basically left up to UAs (notice how everything in the Disk Space section says should, not must). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

[whatwg] Navigation and history traversal issues

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Hickson
URL, for example, and could serve random files from the server for any URL. On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, James Graham wrote: On 06/13/2012 11:18 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Henri Sivonen wrote: * Should window.stop() really not abort the parser like the spec seems

Re: [whatwg] Navigation and history traversal issues

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Hickson
links if we blocked cross-origin history traversal. I don't really see much point. What's the security risk? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take

Re: [whatwg] Navigation and history traversal issues

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Hickson
to work much as if you were to call it on the new, cross-origin, History object, though.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] MediaController feedback

2012-09-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Jer Noble wrote: On Aug 27, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: With JavaScript, it's certainly possible for a page author to play() or pause() a slaved media element directly, but that author could just as easily remove the media element from

[whatwg] video feedback

2012-09-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Kit Grose wrote: On 06/06/2012, at 7:44 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Kit Grose wrote: I'd argue that while we did receive in WebM a common codec it does not enjoy the sort of universal adoption required to be able to mandate its support in the spec

Re: [whatwg] [Web-storage] subdomains / cooperation and limits

2012-09-17 Thread Ian Hickson
told that the draft contradicts my understanding, but I don't think so. I don't really understand your question, but does this answer it?: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/webstorage.html#disk-space-0 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Regarding Examples for rel=tag

2012-09-14 Thread Ian Hickson
document and don't know about article. In other words, backwards compatibility. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Drag-and-drop folders/files support with directory structure using DirectoryEntry

2012-09-13 Thread Ian Hickson
that there is consensus amongst browser vendors that this is a problem they want to solve, let alone how to solve it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Security restriction allows content thievery

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
trying to set? To what? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] data URLs and XMLHttpRequest

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
in the same way as workers seems like a good idea to me. I ended up reverting that text, it didn't really work. Is there anything else you need for XHR instead? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Encoding sniffing algorithm

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
to, exactly? The spec gives an example. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] iframe sandbox and indexedDB

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
part of the HTML spec. Note that the sentence you cited is non-normative (or rather, it contains no normative statements), so that whether it mentions IndexedDB or not doesn't change anything about what the spec says. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL

Re: [whatwg] iframe sandbox and indexedDB

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
is another case where the page's origin isn't a tuple). Whatever part of IndexedDB says what should happen for documents from handtyped data: URLs and any other situations with non-tuple origins should automatically cover the case of sandboxed content as well. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Wasn't there going to be a strict spec?

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
, Erik Reppen wrote: I think there's a legit need for a version or some kind of mode for HTML5 that assumes you're a pro and breaks visibly or throws an error when you've done something wrong. If you're a pro, use a validator. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] input type=barcode?

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Randy ra...@prowebdesign.nl wrote: On top of that, the vast majority of these readers just translate

Re: [whatwg] Security restriction allows content thievery

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
information, or something). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Conformance checking of missing alternative content for images

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-08-22 3:43, Ian Hickson wrote: [...] the argument is that WYSIWYG editor implementors will be pressured into making their tools output conforming content by people who don't understand the subtlties of this thread, based purely

Re: [whatwg] HTMLForms: Implicit Submission with {display:none} button

2012-09-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Glenn Maynard wrote: I don't think the existence of implicit submit should depend on platform conventions, though, for interop on forms without visible

Re: [whatwg] Why do HTML*Collection's nameItem need to return 5 different objects?

2012-09-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: *HTMLCollection* returns the first element. This is for compat in the default case, I believe. *HTMLAllCollection* returns the first

Re: [whatwg] Hardware accelerated canvas

2012-09-04 Thread Ian Hickson
? canvas.onforcerepaint? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-09-04 Thread Ian Hickson
-element syntax are immense. For the multi-element solution to be a net positive over the one-attribute solution, the magnitude of its pros would have to be enormous. On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Mathew Marquis wrote: On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2012, Matthew Wilcox

Re: [whatwg] Canvas roundedRect

2012-09-03 Thread Ian Hickson
widely implemented yet so I haven't shown an example here.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Canvas arcTo method

2012-09-03 Thread Ian Hickson
) will produce an elliptical arc. You have to generate the arc, then scale it. Yeah, that's why the spec hand-waves to transform the line too... but I agree that that doesn't really work. Do you have any suggestion of how to spec this better? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Hardware accelerated canvas

2012-09-03 Thread Ian Hickson
around. This is an interesting idea... do other vendors want to provide something like this? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Hardware accelerated canvas

2012-09-02 Thread Ian Hickson
updated for any solution other than don't lose the data to be adopted. How exactly this is implemented is a quality of implementation issue. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] DOMContentLoaded, load and current document readiness

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: Hmm.. how long as that been the case? I thought that when we originally implemented @defer

Re: [whatwg] DOMContentLoaded, load and current document readiness

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: That's what the spec says, no? I thought so, but the comments in this thread made me think otherwise. If that's the case then I'm happy. I strongly recommend only believing what the spec says, not what is said in threads. :-) -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for public data in drag events

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
events. That's an interesting idea. I suppose we could expose it using a custom type in cross-app OS dnd situations, too. Could you elaborate on your use case? Are there cross-window use cases for this? (For in-window cases, you could instead just use a global.) -- Ian Hickson U

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for HTML5: Motion sensing input device (Kinect, SoftKinetic, Asus Xtion)

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
/Category:Proposals Sure, but the mailing lists are what matter at the end of the day. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for HTML5: Virtual Tours

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
. By the way, what label should be used to indicate this type of media?. Canvas? I'm not sure I understand the question. Can you elaborate? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Change description of em element

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
. This, however, loses the attachment to the element name. I've tried to make this clearer in the spec. Let me know if there's any cases that are still confusing in this manner. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] suggestin a minor addion to the DOM

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
and cancel them... that might just be the way to go for now. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] :enabled and :disabled matching input type=hidden

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
this test. http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1643 I guess there's no point fighting this particular battle. Changed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Proposed addition to Drag and Drop API

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
the element itself in CSS. That's what the addElement() method is intended to do. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] content element, which we need in our documents

2012-08-30 Thread Ian Hickson
would do and/or mean? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r7128 - [giow] (2) Try to define img synchronous loading. Affected topics: HTML

2012-08-29 Thread Ian Hickson
bugs in the spec... [...] Fixed. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Domain transfer security

2012-08-29 Thread Ian Hickson
for the user to enter credentials in a way that would enable an attack, as far as I can tell. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for readyState behavior

2012-08-29 Thread Ian Hickson
for XSLT, finish for such loads, and as if). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Should editable elements have placeholder attribute?

2012-08-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I strongly disagree. input and textarea are high-level constructs, so it's fine for them to be defined by the UA's platform. But contenteditable is a very low-level primitive. We

Re: [whatwg] DOMContentLoaded, load and current document readiness

2012-08-29 Thread Ian Hickson
-inserted script src element exection delay DOMContentLoaded). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] At Inclusion (a declarative way to Ajaxise a website)

2012-08-29 Thread Ian Hickson
In particular, a more careful examination of use cases and input from browser vendors is really important to a proposal's chances of success.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] HTMLLinkElement.disabled and HTMLLinkElement.sheet behavior

2012-08-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 8/28/12 12:46 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: I've updated the spec to not block on style sheets for nested parser's scripts. I'm not sure I follow. What is not going to block on what with this change? As far as I can tell, 0 1 2 in your testcase

Re: [whatwg] HTMLLinkElement.disabled and HTMLLinkElement.sheet behavior

2012-08-28 Thread Ian Hickson
that scripts that are inserted by a nested tokenizer not block on stylesheets? The latter. The blocking only affects scripts that are prepare the scripted by the top-level parser, not a reentrant parser. (This is in the spec if you want to examine the precise wording I'm proposing here.) -- Ian

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Offline-Capable Meta Tag and API Indicates Application's Ability to Function Without Network Connection

2012-08-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Brian Blakely wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Brian Blakely wrote: This proposal deals chiefly with standardizing the messaging around that. The developer sets up the application to be ready for offline

Re: [whatwg] tabindexscope

2012-08-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: Can you give some examples of real-world pages where the tabindex attribute has been used (with difficulty due to the lack

Re: [whatwg] Why won't you let us make our own HTML5 browsers?

2012-08-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Mark Callow wrote: On 08/06/2012 06:09, Ian Hickson wrote: The dire warning doesn't work. I'm just saying that's the direction that operating system vendors have been going in; that disallowing it in the browser case is not a different direction, it's consistent

Re: [whatwg] Validator.nu: Attribute role not allowed on element h2 at this point.

2012-08-28 Thread Ian Hickson
the content is at odds with the valid non-redundant ARIA markup. And, in fact, allowing the author to specify the default would preserve ARIA in cargo-culted code if the elements themselves get changed to, say, div's. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Can you give an example? -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for change in recommendation for loading behavior of non-applicable stylesheets

2012-08-28 Thread Ian Hickson
sheets that could affect them.) The spec also says, specifically for link resources, that: # User agents may opt to only try to obtain such resources when they are # needed, instead of pro-actively fetching all the external resources # that are not applied. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] input type=barcode?

2012-08-27 Thread Ian Hickson
, so this is perhaps closer to an IME hint, as has been suggested for a couple of other input types. Do you mean something like inputmode=barcode? Can you elaborate on how that would work? It's an intriguing idea, but I'm not sure I follow quite how to specify it. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-08-27 Thread Ian Hickson
level: what are the use cases here? Is it just e-mail clients that want to open links? What are the attack scenarios? Is it just links in e-mails getting at the e-mail app somehow? Without more details like the above it's hard to evaluate the proposals. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] MediaController feedback

2012-08-27 Thread Ian Hickson
requires all the videos to start playing when the user overrides the JS-provided controls and just uses the UA controls. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible

Re: [whatwg] Various HTML element feedback

2012-08-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-06-06 2:53, Ian Hickson wrote: I have rather been optimistic about future developments for markup elements that have been defined exactly enough to warrant meaningful semantics-based processing. For example, most of the uses

Re: [whatwg] Various HTML element feedback

2012-08-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: That might be realistic, especially there is no significant semantic clarification in sight in general. This raises the question why we could not just return to the original design

Re: [whatwg] HTMLLinkElement.disabled and HTMLLinkElement.sheet behavior

2012-08-27 Thread Ian Hickson
scripts. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Serialization of expandos on String / Boolean / Number objects

2012-08-23 Thread Ian Hickson
complicated (most languages don't have a concept of object whose value is a string plus a dictionary). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Conformance checking of missing alternative content for images

2012-08-21 Thread Ian Hickson
hopeful that browser vendors will eventually fix their handling of title=. I've also added a note about using CSS if title= is used. On Wed, 1 Aug 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: How about simply introducing a @generator attribute: img

Re: [whatwg] I believe source rectangles for HTML5 Canvas drawImage are specified incorrectly

2012-08-20 Thread Ian Hickson
and will get a response in due course. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Was is considered to use JSON-LD instead of creating application/microdata+json?

2012-08-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012, Markus Lanthaler wrote: On Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:53 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: The only reason there's a MIME type at all (rather than just using JSON's directly) was to enable filtering of copy-and-paste and drag-and-drop payloads; would JSON-LD enable

Re: [whatwg] Was is considered to use JSON-LD instead of creating application/microdata+json?

2012-08-09 Thread Ian Hickson
if there are fewer formats to support/learn. Currently, the data is just stored as JSON, it's not a new format. It's only a new MIME type to allow easier filtering in the drag-and-drop API. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] Was is considered to use JSON-LD instead of creating application/microdata+json?

2012-08-08 Thread Ian Hickson
: http://example.com/value3; } ] } } ] } ] } That seems like it is strictly more complicated (trivially so, but still). What is the advantage? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] register*Handler and Web Intents

2012-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
their position in the DOM as a way to detect support. I really am unconvinced that this is a lot of grief. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] A mechanism to improve form autofill

2012-08-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Ian Hickson wrote: So we could define the autocomplete= field's value as follows: [...] I've now specced this, with some minor changes. On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, David Holloway wrote: A contact address might be helpful for sites that are non-commercial in nature. Airlines

Re: [whatwg] alt= and the meta name=generator exception

2012-08-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-07-24 21:58, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Edward O'Connor wrote: The spec currently disallows conformance checkers from reporting img elements without alt= attributes as an error when meta name=generator is present[1

Re: [whatwg] Administrivia: Update on the relationship between the WHATWG HTML living standard and the W3C HTML5 specification

2012-07-25 Thread Ian Hickson
can do directly or which you can wait for someone else such as me to do). This mailing list (wha...@whatwg.org) is specifically for technical discussions and not for process discussions. Thanks, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch

Re: [whatwg] Administrivia: Update on the relationship between the WHATWG HTML living standard and the W3C HTML5 specification

2012-07-25 Thread Ian Hickson
knows. :-) As of the last time the W3C equivalent spec was updated, it was titled HTML5, but you'd have to ask the W3C what their plans are. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] register*Handler and Web Intents

2012-07-25 Thread Ian Hickson
language anyway.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Comments about the track element

2012-07-24 Thread Ian Hickson
video. Why is this no longer a viable solution? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] alt= and the meta name=generator exception

2012-07-24 Thread Ian Hickson
, just that they are discouraged from doing so. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] dialog's position property

2012-07-20 Thread Ian Hickson
, there would be no way to view the whole dialog. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Administrivia: Update on the relationship between the WHATWG HTML living standard and the W3C HTML5 specification

2012-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
in the other component skipped the boilerplate. The HTMLWG only applied its process to bugs in their components. [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Apr/0240.html -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A

Re: [whatwg] [canvas] request for {create, get, put}ImageDataHD and ctx.backingStorePixelRatio

2012-07-17 Thread Ian Hickson
ready, maybe coupled with an event that says when it's ready? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Canvas hit region feedback

2012-07-17 Thread Ian Hickson
drawing code with anti-aliasing). Consider a zoomed canvas, where we might want more accurate hit testing. Certainly implementations are welcome to use a hit region list with fine paths, rather than pixels, so long as the effect is equivalent. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

[whatwg] Input modes: Please help me with some research!

2012-07-17 Thread Ian Hickson
, or by providing links to documentation for input mode APIs on operating systems that support them that would be great. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making dt and dd valid in ol

2012-07-16 Thread Ian Hickson
, there was no reason to. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making dt and dd valid in ol

2012-07-15 Thread Ian Hickson
for knowing that a dl's contents can be arbitrarily reordered? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Why do HTML*Collection's nameItem need to return 5 different objects?

2012-07-13 Thread Ian Hickson
3 classes somehow return the same object? FWIW, WebKit has always returned a static node list. WebKit doesn't support the microdata and radio button features, presumably, and is presumably less than perfectly compatible with the Web for the others. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2012-07-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012, Markus Ernst wrote: Am 11.07.2012 00:59 schrieb Ian Hickson: On Fri, 4 May 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: An app may dynamically set inputs or groups

Re: [whatwg] Device proximity and light events

2012-07-11 Thread Ian Hickson
about this on IRC and for now I'm not going to spec this in the HTML spec. It would probably be good for these events to be combined with the Geo and device orientation events and all specced together, but I'll leave that up to whoever specs them. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] iframe sandbox attribute

2012-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 7/9/12 8:39 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Surely that's going to set the attribute regardless of whether the attribute is nullable or whatnot. Well, that depends on how reflecting DOMString? attributes are defined. Making setting null call

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for readyState behavior

2012-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
. Is there interest from other browsers to support it? I hesitate to make this part of the spec any more complex... -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] DOMTokenList methods would be more useful with a space separated token list

2012-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 2 May 2012, Rick Waldron wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2012, Rick Waldron wrote: JS APIs like this should always return the object (constructed instance or not) and therefore chain implicitly. Let me rephrase, I simply

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2012-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
. wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: An app may dynamically set inputs or groups of inputs to readonly based on app state.  When you submit, though, it's impossible to tell (without hacks) whether a checkbox

Re: [whatwg] style scoped available as experimental feature, discussing @-rules

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
implement them, then they'll be something to implement for compatibility. Generally though it seems lame to not support them. :-) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things

Re: [whatwg] Outline Depth Does Not Correspond to Sectioning Depth?

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
that it is the depth in the _outermost_ outline that matters (since the h3 element above is really in three outlines -- that of the body, and that of each section -- but the depth that matters is just that of the body). HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http

Re: [whatwg] Elements to markup article headings

2012-07-09 Thread Ian Hickson
like to have the validator check that they didn't accidentally end up nested. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

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