fucking manners.
>
Disrespect of fellow members of the list is unacceptable.
Michael has been banned from the list for two weeks.
Please peruse our code of conduct if the reasoning behind this action is
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I would certainly not seek to stifle debate or censor someone else from
> having their say.
>
Indeed not! I should hope nobody would feel that way. The WHATWG is a venue
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, then send an an e-mail to this list proposing a
basic design.
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ded and replaced by a working group that will put the
> security of the users first.
>
There's already plenty too many working groups working on HTML as it is...
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is the quality of
arguments and data presented).
I urge you to read the WHATWG FAQ before sending further e-mails to the
list. Thanks.
https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ
If you wish to respond to this e-mail please do not cc the WHATWG list in
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 11
s about how things work here in our
FAQ: https://whatwg.org/faq
HTH.
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; are more easily tracked by other projects. (I know several browser
> > and latex-to-xxx projects are using that in one way or another.)
> >
> > The sources are at
> >
> > https://github.com/w3c/xml-entities
Thanks for the heads-up, David
should all
> >work.
>
> Are you commenting that it is not a bad proposal in principle, given
> extra detail, or that it is not a proposal that can be assessed at all
> with the current level of detail?
More the latter. I do think the work involved wou
oints to a resource that requires HTTP
authentication? Is each cue a separate Document? What happens to media
queries in a cue?
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oesn't directly relate to technical changes to a WHATWG
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to e-mail me privately about them (you can even cc www-arch...@w3.org if
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rage you to read our FAQ. The WHATWG has a much more pragmatic
approach than other standards organisations you may be more familiar with.
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UAs or legacy servers), so it would be no different
than introducing an entirely new feature that didn't suffer from all the
other problems that suffers from.
This is somewhat academic, though. When there are no browser vendors
supporting a particular feature, arguing about how it could be improved
nt of fact, reflecting intents stated by browser vendors. It's
not a value judgement and it's not a technical or normative change.
If you would like to discuss a technical change to the WHATWG HTML spec,
then that would definitely be something that this list would be appricate
for. To argue against the
ctly as one
should expect.
It's worth noting that is a pretty terrible API. I recommend
approaching the groups writing new cryptography APIs, explaining your use
cases, and making sure they are supported in up-and-coming, more widely
supported, more secure, and more well-thought-out APIs.
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that EventSource not introduce any new
exceptions to the networking layer.
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/#parsing-main-inforeign
Note in particular that the special behaviour for script here doesn't
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I'd strongly recommend against adding new methods. It'll mean we now
have two different ways to do the same thing, which means more bugs,
which means less interoperability, more
themselves, and then filing a bug on
the spec with the Target Milestone set to Needs Impl Interest.
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to introduce it
- the description in the wiki should be brief, should deep-link to the
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be capitalised both in existing properties and in those defined in this
message (I wrote them lowercase for the sake of uniformity).
Aren't these values case-insensitive?
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the
error I receive?
I recommend using the validator.nu service rather than the W3C one.
They're basically the same but the validator.nu one is closer to the
WHATWG spec's requirements than the W3C one.
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trivially worked around using some script or by constraining the
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disadvantages, too, like making people think they can put markup in the
element (look at the Apple page for an example), which wouldn't work
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to be a true reference
implementation, then that's interesting; is this intended to replace the
spec in due course?
Generally I would recommend only putting specs on *.spec.whatwg.org.
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WebSocket, which would
sidestep all these issues.
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, there's comparatively more client-side
code. Similarly, if you have a rich-text editor with offline capabilities,
there's obviously much more client-side code.
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generally much more recommend sessionStorage for this purpose.
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after comment-close / or both):
script type=text/plain!-- a --/script
script type=text/plain
!-- a --/script
script type=text/plain!-- a --
/script
These are all conforming; don't forget that the empty string is a string
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Peter Kasting wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
- telling UA that it should retry the search because content has
been changed/rendered/modified
The last is important because for web application which dynamically
), then upload it to the new site
(open, using input type=file)?
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if content is changed, browsers do not retry the search. This is the
most evident with browsers which allow highlight all feature, like
Google Chrome.
This is just a bug in the browsers.
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
2014-01-22 2:28, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
Thank you for the clarifications. I may have been stuck to an idea
of a submittable element, possibly adopted from some earlier version
or proposal. I
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quite the mess.
I guess we'll handle this in due course on a case-by-case basis. It's hard
to see how we could predict all the various ways this might change.
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the upload vulnerability. Supporting just the default
types is unlikely to help, since those are the types most likely to be
used to label an uploaded file in this scenario.
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with resolving this issue also:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26636
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Simon Pieters wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 02:44:23 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
I realize no one would write actual code like this; the real-life
use case I'm worried about would be more like this:
// img
loader primitives, assuming that we can get the ES6 module loader to be
augmented to address the needs of non-ES resources:
http://esdiscuss.org/topic/es6-loader-proposed-changes
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2014, Yoav Weiss wrote:
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
[snip]
load-settings=A JSON-encoded dictionary to pass to the Request
constructor.
I'm not a big fan of JSON attributes for this purpose
Nobody
. In particular
I've made the terminology less ambiguous.
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Ian Hickson wrote:
Jake also mentioned these requirements:
| - Provides an adoption path for browsers that don't support the new
| feature (happy for the fallback to be blocking document-order
| execution)
| - Is discoverable by pre-parsers (so async=false
until playback continues, though.
Note that setting currentTime is required to be precise, even if that
means actually playing the content in silence for a while to get to the
precise point. To seek fast, we have a separate fastSeek() method.
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Ilya Grigorik wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I hope to be able to post more concrete proposals soon, it's currently
blocked on my understanding how I should be integrating HTML with ES6.
Any bugs or threads that I can
it's worth doing, and if so, whether this proposal does it.
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http://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/6040024
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preload + prerender cases to consider.
Do you mean the case of fetching a file before you've loaded the base HTML
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the author can't know what image types are supported.
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Why not:
var mystyle = E('link', { rel: 'stylesheet', href: 'my.css', whenneeded:
true });
document.body.appendChild(mystyle);
var myfetch = mystyle.fetch
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
var mystyle = E('link', { rel: 'stylesheet', href: 'my.css
trying to send custom headers on a
link?
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be no more complicated, but would involve less new
API surface (not to mention fewer new ways to shoot yourself in the foot,
e.g. getting the 'fetch-as' value wrong), and wouldn't require us to come
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or less identical to a proposal from Microsoft about 18 months
ago:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20799
It's still not really clear what difference this API would have to
window.open(), though.
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algorithm.
Everywhere else, it just gets treated as an unknown URL scheme.
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in the middle of updating my pipeline, so I can't easily make any
spec edits right this second. Sorry about that, everyone. I promise I'll
be getting back to my old productive rate of response as soon as the
pipeline is back up and running!)
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the pages to be blank from the svg start tag to the end.
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-status-bar-style. Why don't we just register and
use those?
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-navbutton-color, and, maybe better,
msapplication-TileColor, seem like pretty good fits to me. I don't
really understand why one would avoid just reusing those, either instead
of, or at least as well as, a newer more generic term.
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https://github.com/whatwg/ (some also have an associated Twitter
account).
You can also subscribe to the spec itself to get update notifications; see
the top left of the spec at: http://whatwg.org/html
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that authors don't have to include different values for each
browser.
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be nice to avoid more attribute accessors (and encourage authors to
use getAttribute() instead), but if input and textarea have them we
should probably be consistent.
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Well sure, but isn't the IDL attribute a lot cleaner-looking?
longer specs/IDLs/compile times.
Surely authors' needs outweigh these.
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
At the moment data URLs inherit the origin of the context that fetches
them.
To be precise, the origin of data: URLs themselves is the unique origin.
It's the origin of resources that come from data: URLs that's different.
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On Sat, 24 May 2014, Emanuel Allen wrote:
SVG API for the canvas element, simple call svg; var ctx =
canvas.getContext(svg);
How would this work? Can you elaborate?
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implementation burden. It's essentially just a way to split the form into
subforms for the purpose of autofill only.
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Things
been proposed, so...:
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/#dropped
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saying that mean that Chrome wants to implement these also? Just
having a working group want them specified doesn't help get us to multiple
implementations...
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, my
suggestion would be that the place to move it to is the HTML Editing APIs
spec, which could be renamed Web Editing APIs. There's precedent for
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On Mon, 12 May 2014, Eduardo' Vela\ Nava wrote:
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Note that there _is_ still a content type check with appcache, it's
just done on the first few bytes of the file instead of on the
metadata. (This is IMHO how all file
model, more or
less the one specified here:
http://mimesniff.spec.whatwg.org/
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know when you want me to change the spec. :-)
Are the lessons learnt here being reported to the Service Worker team?
Yup, who is that?
I believe Alex Russel is the point person on that technology.
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treated as manifests, I think it'd be better to have
a CSP directive that disables manifests. Then you would apply it to any
resource you know you don't want cached, don't want to be treated as being
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interface and
prototype objects that should only appear on Window, some that should
only appear in Workers and some that should appear both places I
wonder whether it makes sense to specify in the IDL which kind the
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) then please comment on
the bug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25634
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, K. Gadd wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012, Kevin Gadd wrote:
Is it possible to expose the width/height of an ImageBitmap, or even
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Justin Novosad wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Ashley Gullen wrote:
Some developers are starting to design large scale games using our
HTML5 game engine, and we're finding we're running in to memory
On Fri, 9 May 2014, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Justin Novosad wrote:
To help us iterate further, I've attempted to capture the essence of
this thread on the whatwg wiki, using the problem solving template. I
tried to capture the main ideas that we seem to agree on so far
API proposals, and criticisms thereof.
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, on a high-core
machine as we should expect to start seeing widely in the coming years, it
might make sense for the browser to randomly limit the number of cores on
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was the only platform I could find that didn't make the
number of cores available to developers.
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-- making optimal use of CPU resources -- without increasing the
fingerprinting risk.
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Eli Grey wrote:
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
or you have to examine permissions that the application is requesting,
and explicitly grant it the right
On Thu, 1 May 2014, David Bruant wrote:
Le 30/04/2014 23:32, Ian Hickson a écrit :
What I'm trying to do is just that an element have display:flex
and to hide it with the hidden attribute when I don't need the
element to be shown. I guess my only option is changing
-origin). If you're
concerned about the page running script, then sandboxing solves that
(unless you set allow-scripts).
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Things that are impossible just
. And yet we have seamless.
But it not only resizes: it adds all this other bundled behaviour, and
strictly serves a fringe use case where somebody is distributing iframes
on the same origin.
The main use case is same-origin-served blog comments, which isn't that
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hidden= from 'display:none' to 'opacity:0' ?
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Glenn Maynard wrote:
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2012-November/037905.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Nov/0143.html
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Is it planned to have some similar mechanism ?
Isn't this something browsers should just implement themselves? It's not
clear to me how an author is supposed to know what timeout to give.
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indicate whether they think Tab's proposal is satisfactory (in
particular, is 'display-box' something that browsers will implement?
Apparently Gecko is doing it, anyone else?).
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25503
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
So this is not how most implementations currently have it
defined.
I'm unsure what you mean. Browser implementations? If so, they
definitely do store
Refactor the image loading model; When exactly should update the image
data run?
The current img loading model doesn't match browsers well enough and
I need to work on that. If you have thoughts on how image loading
should work, please comment on bug 24711 soon.
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of events in a broadcast channel, and this bug:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25413
...wherein I'm about to change how channel names are exposed.
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sense to make one player's frame rate more important than another's.
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Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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