Re: [whatwg] date meta-tag invalid

2011-07-28 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 11:27 +, aykut.sen...@bild.de wrote:
 http://www.google.com/support/news_pub/bin/answer.py?answer=93994
 
 See Link above, Google says, that they provide DC.date.issued, but this
 is also not part auf the whatwg metaextensions list.

It's part of the list now.

I wonder what possessed the Google News team to use dc.date.issued
instead of dc.issued or dcterms.issued.

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Re: [whatwg] date meta-tag invalid

2011-07-26 Thread aykut.sensoy
http://www.google.com/support/news_pub/bin/answer.py?answer=93994

See Link above, Google says, that they provide DC.date.issued, but this
is also not part auf the whatwg metaextensions list.
 


kind regards

Aykut



Am 18.07.11 16:11 schrieb Julian Reschke unter julian.resc...@gmx.de:

On 2011-07-18 15:59, aykut.sen...@bild.de wrote:
 hi julian,
 i have asked one from the seo team and he says for example the
freshness
 factor is important for google.
 is it possible to use the time-tag in the head instead (i mean
invisible)?
 dc:created is also not in the Meta Extensions List, see:
 http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MetaExtensions

I *believe* the SEO time is misguided when it thinks that
meta/@name=date affects Google. But only Google can tell us.

I mentioned dc:created not because it's valid, but because it's at least
*specified* and in more wider use.

Best regards, Julian




[whatwg] date meta-tag invalid

2011-07-18 Thread aykut.sensoy
According to the w3c Validator the  metaname=datecontent=# / tag is 
invalid. In the WHATWG MetaExtensions List there is no registered extension, no 
specification and no proposal for the date meta-tag.
The only alternative for date is a proposal called created, which however 
doesn't meet the requirements for registration . For our SEO team the date 
meta-tag contains some of the most important information about a webpage.
What would be a w3c-valid way to implement a creation date meta-tag in html5?


Kind Regards
Aykut Sensoy


Re: [whatwg] date meta-tag invalid

2011-07-18 Thread Mat Carey
I'm not aware of the context, but is your problem the lack of spaces?

You said:

 metaname=datecontent=# /

Did you mean:

meta name=date content=# /

Mat Carey

On 18 Jul 2011, at 13:54, aykut.sen...@bild.de wrote:

 According to the w3c Validator the  metaname=datecontent=# / tag is 
 invalid. In the WHATWG MetaExtensions List there is no registered extension, 
 no specification and no proposal for the date meta-tag.
 The only alternative for date is a proposal called created, which however 
 doesn't meet the requirements for registration . For our SEO team the date 
 meta-tag contains some of the most important information about a webpage.
 What would be a w3c-valid way to implement a creation date meta-tag in html5?
 
 
 Kind Regards
 Aykut Sensoy



Re: [whatwg] date meta-tag invalid

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Reschke

On 2011-07-18 14:54, aykut.sen...@bild.de wrote:

According to the w3c Validator themetaname=datecontent=# /  tag is 
invalid. In the WHATWG MetaExtensions List there is no registered extension, no specification and no 
proposal for the date meta-tag.
The only alternative for date is a proposal called created, which however 
doesn't meet the requirements for registration . For our SEO team the date meta-tag contains some 
of the most important information about a webpage.
What would be a w3c-valid way to implement a creation date meta-tag in html5?


Out of curiosity: who is processing the tag? And what does this have to 
do with SEO? Do search engines do anything with it?


From HTML5's point of view the suggest replace is probably time 
pubdate... Did you look at that already?


Also: there seems to be overlap with Dublin Core's dc:created?

Best regards, Julian


Re: [whatwg] date meta-tag invalid

2011-07-18 Thread aykut.sensoy
hi, this was only a mistake in the e-mail. you can see the meta-tag in the
source code live at www.stylebook.de

aykut



Am 18.07.11 15:06 schrieb Mat Carey unter m...@matcarey.co.uk:

I'm not aware of the context, but is your problem the lack of spaces?

You said:

 metaname=datecontent=# /

Did you mean:

meta name=date content=# /

Mat Carey

On 18 Jul 2011, at 13:54, aykut.sen...@bild.de wrote:

 According to the w3c Validator the  metaname=datecontent=# / tag
is invalid. In the WHATWG MetaExtensions List there is no registered
extension, no specification and no proposal for the date meta-tag.
 The only alternative for date is a proposal called created, which
however doesn't meet the requirements for registration . For our SEO
team the date meta-tag contains some of the most important information
about a webpage.
 What would be a w3c-valid way to implement a creation date meta-tag in
html5?
 
 
 Kind Regards
 Aykut Sensoy




Re: [whatwg] date meta-tag invalid

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Reschke

On 2011-07-18 15:59, aykut.sen...@bild.de wrote:

hi julian,
i have asked one from the seo team and he says for example the freshness
factor is important for google.
is it possible to use the time-tag in the head instead (i mean invisible)?
dc:created is also not in the Meta Extensions List, see:
http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MetaExtensions


I *believe* the SEO time is misguided when it thinks that 
meta/@name=date affects Google. But only Google can tell us.


I mentioned dc:created not because it's valid, but because it's at least 
*specified* and in more wider use.


Best regards, Julian



Re: [whatwg] date meta-tag invalid

2011-07-18 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 13:59 +, aykut.sen...@bild.de wrote:
 i have asked one from the seo team and he says for example the freshness
 factor is important for google.

Is there evidence of meta name=date content=... being part of
Google's freshness factor? Is there public documentation explaining what
meta name=date content=... means, what date format expected in the
content attribute is and what software does something useful with it?

 is it possible to use the time-tag in the head instead (i mean invisible)?

No, it's not.

 dc:created is also not in the Meta Extensions List, see:
 http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MetaExtensions

It simply hasn't been registered yet. Is there any evidence of consuming
software that does something useful with dc:created?

-- 
Henri Sivonen
hsivo...@iki.fi
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/