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Le 19/03/2015 18:29, Peter Blaha a écrit :
For low symmetry structures (eg. monoclinic) one can generate several unit cells
which are absolutely equivalent (same volume, same number of atoms, ...)

This happens with sgroup, which transforms your structure such that the
monoclinic angle is less than 90. In addition the fractional coordinates
have been changed austomatically. Nevertheless, these two cells will give
identical neighbor-distances, which you can verify with nn and comparing the resulting outputnn files. There is nothing wrong with either your original cell
or the one from sgroup. You can use either one for the calculations.

If you want the conventional cell (which contains of course 2x as many atoms),
you can use   x supercell (1x1x1, no shifts/vacuum). It simply changes
the lattice type to  "P", and adds the centered atoms.
With this struct file, however, you cannot make the calculations unless you
make these atoms "non-equivalent" and break symmetry, eg. by labeling one
atom as "Al1".

What you have been trying was to express the lattice vectors/positions in carthesian
coordinates.
You can check your calculations again using the distances of outputnn and
compare them to your own calculations.



Am 19.03.2015 um 17:03 schrieb David Olmsted:
Dear reader,
   I am trying to determine the primitive cell and positions for a
case.struct file I am running.  But I am not determining the either
primitive cell or the conventional cell correctly.

I need to either:
   1. Figure out what I am doing wrong. or
2. Find a place in the code where I can print out the positions in terms
of the primitive cell.

Does anyone know the answer to either question?

This is a base-centered monoclinic system, space group 15.

From case.struct:
MODE OF CALC=RELA unit=bohr

  35.704486 13.533274 13.533274 90.000000 90.000000 99.990000

The full case.struct is given below.

sgroup reports 15 (C 2/c) [unique axis c] cell choice 2.
The struct file output from sgroup is:
CXZ LATTICE,NONEQUIV.ATOMS: 14 15 C2/c
MODE OF CALC=RELA unit=bohr

  35.704486 13.533274 13.533274 90.000000 90.000000 80.010000
The case.struct file I am using has the 99.99 degree entry as above.

In angstroms, my lattice constants (and angles in degrees) are
   18.894 7.1615 7.1615  90 90 99.99

The userguide gives (on page 39) the primitive cell as:
CXZ    [a sin(\gamma)/2, a cos(\gamma)/2, -c/2], [0, b, 0], [a
sin(\gamma)/2, acos(\gamma)/2, c/2]

So I have for a primitive cell (each row is a vector):
9.3038  -1.6388 -3.5808
0        7.1615  0
9.3038  -1.6388  3.5808

With lengths of 10.1029 7.1615 10.1029 and angles 99.34 41.52 99.34.

The positions in case.struct are given in terms of the conventional unit
cell, and I must convert them to the primitive cell.  So I need the
conventional cell in cartesian coordinates.

The README file in SRC_sgroup talks about base-centered monoclinic being
restricted to A centered.  Page 39 of the userguide shows only
B-base-centered,
which is what I have.  The README gives:

     The vectors of the conventional cell in cartesian basis
     ( 1 vector is 1 column ... )

              a  b*Cos[gamma]  0
              0  b*Sin[gamma]  0   A - centred
              0      0         c

This is a valid conventional cell in my case, and switching to each row
being a vector, I have:
18.894    0       0
-1.24235  7.0529  0
  0        0       7.1615

However the location of the second primitive cell is (0.5, 0, 0.5) in terms of the conventional cell. When transformed to primitive cell coordinates it must be a lattice vector. But it is not. So one of my cells is wrong. (I believe the vector for the second primitive cell is correct because it is what is given in the International Tables, page 199, for unique axis c, cell
choice 2.  And it matches to the neighbor positions in case.outputnn.)

Quite possibly the conventional cell is different for B-centered than for
A-centered, but I do not find it described anywhere.

My thanks for any help.
   David

David Olmsted
Assistant Research Engineer
Materials Science and Engineering
210 Hearst Memorial Mining Building
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-1760



------- case.struct
troll_icsd

CXZ LATTICE,NONEQUIV.ATOMS: 14 15_B2/b

MODE OF CALC=RELA unit=bohr

  35.704486 13.533274 13.533274 90.000000 90.000000 99.990000

ATOM  -1: X=0.16778000 Y=0.32059000 Z=0.00654000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
       -1: X=0.83222000 Y=0.67941000 Z=0.99346000
       -1: X=0.83222000 Y=0.17941000 Z=0.00654000
       -1: X=0.16778000 Y=0.82059000 Z=0.99346000
Al         NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    1.6300   Z: 13.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM  -2: X=0.07570000 Y=0.41714000 Z=0.72882000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
       -2: X=0.92430000 Y=0.58286000 Z=0.27118000
       -2: X=0.92430000 Y=0.08286000 Z=0.72882000
       -2: X=0.07570000 Y=0.91714000 Z=0.27118000
Al         NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    1.6300   Z: 13.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM  -3: X=0.00000000 Y=0.25000000 Z=0.11731000
           MULT= 2          ISPLIT= 8
       -3: X=0.00000000 Y=0.75000000 Z=0.88269000
P          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    1.3000   Z: 15.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM  -4: X=0.16844000 Y=0.08109000 Z=0.63272000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
       -4: X=0.83156000 Y=0.91891000 Z=0.36728000
       -4: X=0.83156000 Y=0.41891000 Z=0.63272000
       -4: X=0.16844000 Y=0.58109000 Z=0.36728000
P          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    1.3000   Z: 15.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM  -5: X=0.06458000 Y=0.32611000 Z=0.98827000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
       -5: X=0.93542000 Y=0.67389000 Z=0.01173000
       -5: X=0.93542000 Y=0.17389000 Z=0.98827000
       -5: X=0.06458000 Y=0.82611000 Z=0.01173000
O          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.8700   Z:  8.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM  -6: X=0.02064000 Y=0.09579000 Z=0.23728000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
       -6: X=0.97936000 Y=0.90421000 Z=0.76272000
       -6: X=0.97936000 Y=0.40421000 Z=0.23728000
       -6: X=0.02064000 Y=0.59579000 Z=0.76272000
O          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.8700   Z:  8.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM  -7: X=0.23738000 Y=0.16861000 Z=0.53512000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
       -7: X=0.76262000 Y=0.83139000 Z=0.46488000
       -7: X=0.76262000 Y=0.33139000 Z=0.53512000
       -7: X=0.23738000 Y=0.66861000 Z=0.46488000
O          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.8700   Z:  8.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM  -8: X=0.11140000 Y=0.00803000 Z=0.49156000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
       -8: X=0.88860000 Y=0.99197000 Z=0.50844000
       -8: X=0.88860000 Y=0.49197000 Z=0.49156000
       -8: X=0.11140000 Y=0.50803000 Z=0.50844000
O          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.8700   Z:  8.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM  -9: X=0.14191000 Y=0.23708000 Z=0.75449000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
       -9: X=0.85809000 Y=0.76292000 Z=0.24551000
       -9: X=0.85809000 Y=0.26292000 Z=0.75449000
       -9: X=0.14191000 Y=0.73708000 Z=0.24551000
O          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.8700   Z:  8.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM -10: X=0.18216000 Y=0.92446000 Z=0.76484000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
      -10: X=0.81784000 Y=0.07554000 Z=0.23516000
      -10: X=0.81784000 Y=0.57554000 Z=0.76484000
      -10: X=0.18216000 Y=0.42446000 Z=0.23516000
O          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.8700   Z:  8.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM -11: X=0.00000000 Y=0.25000000 Z=0.63572000
           MULT= 2          ISPLIT= 8
      -11: X=0.00000000 Y=0.75000000 Z=0.36428000
O          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.8700   Z:  8.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM -12: X=0.16141000 Y=0.06966000 Z=0.12100000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
      -12: X=0.83859000 Y=0.93034000 Z=0.87900000
      -12: X=0.83859000 Y=0.43034000 Z=0.12100000
      -12: X=0.16141000 Y=0.56966000 Z=0.87900000
O          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.8700   Z:  8.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM -13: X=0.00000000 Y=0.25000000 Z=0.51600000
           MULT= 2          ISPLIT= 8
      -13: X=0.00000000 Y=0.75000000 Z=0.48400000
H          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.4700   Z:  1.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
ATOM -14: X=0.19000000 Y=0.07200000 Z=0.19100000
           MULT= 4          ISPLIT= 8
      -14: X=0.81000000 Y=0.92800000 Z=0.80900000
      -14: X=0.81000000 Y=0.42800000 Z=0.19100000
      -14: X=0.19000000 Y=0.57200000 Z=0.80900000
H          NPT=  781  R0=0.00010000 RMT=    0.4700   Z:  1.0

LOCAL ROT MATRIX:    1.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000
                      0.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
    4      NUMBER OF SYMMETRY OPERATIONS
-1 0 0 0.00000000
  0-1 0 0.00000000
  0 0-1 0.00000000
        1
  1 0 0 0.00000000
  0 1 0 0.00000000
  0 0 1 0.00000000
        2
-1 0 0 0.00000000
  0-1 0 0.50000000
  0 0 1 0.00000000
        3
  1 0 0 0.00000000
  0 1 0 0.50000000
  0 0-1 0.00000000
        4


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