Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-08 Thread james
Prior to viewing Markus Krötzsch's Wikidata page, I was unaware of the Wikidata: A Free Collaborative Knowledgebase article [1] written by Denny Vrandečić and Markus Krötzsch. This is a very helpful article that in my opinion should be featured on the Wikidata main page. [1]

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
completely-self-servingYay! I would love to see it featured on the Wikidata main page! Let's slashdot ACM :)/completely-self-serving On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 6:11:57 AM ja...@j1w.xyz wrote: Prior to viewing Markus Krötzsch's Wikidata page, I was unaware of the Wikidata: A Free Collaborative

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Back to Denny's original question: Does anybody see a specific danger of abuse if living people get to edit their own data right now? Entering wrong claims deliberately would maybe not be the biggest issue here (since it is already in conflict with other general policies -- we do not want

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, English Wikipedia is not Wikipedia. It certainly is not any other project. I certainly do not want the policies of English Wikipedia. It is bad enough for en,wp itself Thanks, GerardM On 7 January 2015 at 19:26, Peter F. Patel-Schneider pfpschnei...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia has

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Nicolas Torzec
Also, when adding information to Wikipedia/Wikidata, it is best practice (but not mandatory) to provide external references backing up your claims. Nicolas. On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:26 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider pfpschnei...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia has already

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Scott MacLeod
Markus, Denny and Wikidatans, I don't, Markus. In the information age, this seems to be a widespread and helpful practice in general (e.g. in LinkedIn and for some medical records,, for example). On the benefits of this side, this is a way for Wikidata to get most accurate, and potentially,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 7 January 2015 at 20:29, Nicolas Torzec torz...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Also, when adding information to Wikipedia/Wikidata, it is best practice (but not mandatory) to provide external references backing up your claims. Some property values are self referencing; VIAF and ORCID identifiers,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Irrespective of the general policy discussion, I have now been bold and changed my item and user page to record that relationship as by my earlier suggestion (as copied below): https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18618630 I was wondering if, given that we have single signon, website account on

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Markus, is there no public domain picture for you... Please let it be a flattering picture.. and please add it yourself... grin I love the argument people make when they want to imply that you are not that good looking /grin Thanks, Gerard

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Wikipedia has already addressed this question. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiography. In summary, one should not add or change information about oneself, unless the change could not be considered to be non-controversial or there is some reason that a change should be made

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
P.S. I also should declare a COI on this discussion: I am Q18618630. -- Markus On 07.01.2015 15:25, Markus Krötzsch wrote: Back to Denny's original question: Does anybody see a specific danger of abuse if living people get to edit their own data right now? Entering wrong claims deliberately

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-04 Thread Jane Darnell
I can't imagine anyone reading these mails who has never hit the edit button at least once on some random Wikimedia project. Could it possibly be entertaining otherwise? For the sorry few who need to read these mails for their work (whatever that may be), they have my sympathy. On Sun, Jan 4,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jasper Deng, 04/01/2015 08:40: @Andy: no, the terms of use /are/ the minimum because since a user must legally accept them when editing a project, everyone is bound by them by virtue of editing. Local projects cannot override that. Correct in general, but not for the last paragraph of article

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You say this based on what? As far as I am aware Andy is right. Thanks, GerardM On 4 January 2015 at 08:40, Jasper Deng jas...@jasperswebsite.com wrote: @Andy: no, the terms of use *are* the minimum because since a user must legally accept them when editing a project, everyone is

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-04 Thread John Lewis
Love this thread - Happy New Year, to all of you TOU groupies! I bet half of the lurkers on this list never even clicked on the meta page Half of the lurkers on this list probably don't even edit Wikimedia. John Lewis -- John Lewis ___ Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Lydia, I believe you meant to say override, not overwrite. Freudian slip, but I found it rather funny (and could think of multiple instances where that might even be true). Jane 2015-01-03 12:46 GMT+01:00 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Flaken

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Flaken Aldnonymous aldnonymo...@yahoo.com wrote: On [[m:TOU]] already explain what you should do. That is the default for Wikimedia projects. An individual project can overwrite that if wanted. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Joe Filceolaire
The terms of use are the minimum requirements. Each wiki may have more requirements. Joe On 2 Jan 2015 10:16, Flaken Aldnonymous aldnonymo...@yahoo.com wrote: On [[m:TOU]] already explain what you should do. Terms of use - Meta [image: image] Terms of use - Meta Translate this page

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Lydia, I believe you meant to say override, not overwrite. Freudian slip, but I found it rather funny (and could think of multiple instances where that might even be true). Heh yeah. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher -

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Hong, Yena
It looks like community Jeremy commented is wikidata community whether to opt-out paid contribs disclosure or not. -Yena Hong (Revi) http://www.revi.pe.kr -- Sent from Android -- 2015. 1. 4. 오전 12:35에 Flaken Aldnonymous aldnonymo...@yahoo.com님이 작성: Jeremy Baron you might want to read this

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Flaken Aldnonymous
Jeremy Baron you might want to read this https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Paid_contributions_amendment Also, we already done RFC for this here Talk:Terms of use/Paid contributions amendment - Meta |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Talk:Terms of use/Paid contributions amendment -

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 January 2015 at 18:13, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: The terms of use are the minimum requirements. Each wiki may have more requirements. No, they are the *default* requirements. Each wiki may have *different* requirements. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Flaken Aldnonymous
I see, so why don't Wikidata just make derivative version of it? It's simple and easy to make. On Sunday, January 4, 2015 2:39 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 3 January 2015 at 18:13, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote:   The terms of use are the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Jasper Deng
@Andy: no, the terms of use *are* the minimum because since a user must legally accept them when editing a project, everyone is bound by them by virtue of editing. Local projects cannot override that. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 3 January

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-02 Thread Flaken Aldnonymous
On [[m:TOU]] already explain what you should do. Terms of use - Meta |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Terms of use - MetaTranslate this page Other languages: | | | | View on meta.wikimedia.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:38 AM, Denny Vrandečić

[Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I found out the other day that there's an item about myself, and I wanted to edit it, and got a weird feeling about it. So I raised the question on the project chat https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#COI_and_editing and got told that an RFC would be a good idea. So I tried one.