Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-09-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Congratulations on the new version of DBpedia :) .. This makes it an auspicious occasion to talk about future collaboration. At this time several Wikimedians are busy harvesting data from Wikipedia and loading it into Wikidata. You are harvesting data from Wikipedia and loading it into

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-09-25 Thread Christian Bizer
Hi Gerard and all, Von: Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. September 2013 10:26 An: Kingsley Idehen Cc: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.; Chris Bizer; Samuel Klein; Sören Auer; Christian Bizer Betreff: Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-26 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
Speaking from DBpedia (not on behalf), we have been always trying to find ways to contribute data back to wikipedia and If licencing is the only issue here I am sure we can make any necessary arrangements. imho the main scepticism so far was trust from the WIkipedia community to load data in

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Two things to consider; the Wikipedia community and the Wikidata community are two separate entities. As far as I am concerned, Wikidata needs more data to get to the tipping point where it becomes useful to users. I am really vocal about both. The license has traditionally been a sticking

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 8/26/13 4:34 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Two things to consider; the Wikipedia community and the Wikidata community are two separate entities. As far as I am concerned, Wikidata needs more data to get to the tipping point where it becomes useful to users. I am really vocal about both.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As you may have noticed there are other people on the CC.. The not invented here refers to much of the Wiki world.. things get done but much is done over and over again EVEN when cooperation is easy and obvious. I have largely resigned myself to it, it is probably part of our persona.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have been blogging a lot the last two days with DBpedia in mind. My understanding is that at DBpedia a lot of effort went into making something of a cohesive model of properties. Now that the main type GND is about to be deleted, it makes sense to adopt much of the work that has been done

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread Luca Martinelli
Il giorno 23/ago/2013 11:54, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com ha scritto: [...] Now that the main type GND is about to be deleted, it makes sense to adopt much of the work that has been done at DBpedia. [...] May you explain better what we may want to adopt and which properties are

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread Tom Morris
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: I have been blogging a lot the last two days with DBpedia in mind. My understanding is that at DBpedia a lot of effort went into making something of a cohesive model of properties. Now that the main type GND is

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The questions are: - would we advance a lot when we adopt the DBpedia schema as it is? - Would we be open to include substantially more data? - When we adopt the schema, can we tinker with it to suit our needs? If the answers to these questions are yes, what is the point in