Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Lukas Benedix
A few points: * Population should not be negative, would be nice if you can define a min or max value in the property * it's possible to enter 42.23 * if entering 23,42 the result is only 23 * if I try to enter twenty three there is no hint that only numbers are accepted * someone should try to

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Lukas Benedix
As far as I know this is done by bots and not by the wikibase extension. Am I right with that? Lukas Am Fr 22.11.2013 13:46, schrieb Andrew Gray: Perhaps automated constraint checking would be simpler to set up? We have this for some properties already:

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread John Lewis
You are correct. John On Friday, 22 November 2013, Lukas Benedix wrote: As far as I know this is done by bots and not by the wikibase extension. Am I right with that? Lukas Am Fr 22.11.2013 13:46, schrieb Andrew Gray: Perhaps automated constraint checking would be simpler to set up?

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Helder .
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Lukas Benedix bene...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: The problem I see with this practice is that a user doesn't get any feedback that he is entering 'invalid' values. +1 Helder ___ Wikidata-l mailing list

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It is either obvious that they should be entering only integers or positive numbers, in which case such feedback isn't helpful, or it might end up being too restrictive again. Who tells me that a system like this won't get used in order to force cities to have a population of an integer bigger

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Lukas Benedix
I don't want to feel like //John Connor... hunted by a bot that comes after my edits and reverts them only because I entered 123.45 for a property that should be an integer. Am Fr 22.11.2013 21:56, schrieb Denny Vrandečić: It is either obvious that they should be entering only integers or

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
So instead better to limit your freedom to express yourself in the first place. I'd take the bot. At least in the history of the article it is recorded that it was tried to enter 123.45 for a population, and we can later figure out what was happening. Why not wait and see if this is really a

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Lukas Benedix
Is it limiting your freedom, if a little popup comes up and tells you maybe you should enter a positive integer here... if you insist on 123.45 press save, but the bots will come and revert your edit Like a speed limit that is not limiting your freedom to speed, but maybe it reminds you to the