Nathan wrote:
It's a pretty neat idea. I think we should start with trying to get access
to JSTOR. Gmaxwell's objection is one that we should, I think, leave aside.
JSTOR access for Wikimedia editors would be quite handy, although I'm not
sure how many could use it or would avail themselves of
David Gerard wrote:
Rather than comparing a convenient online copy of Wikipedia to a
paper copy of Britannica -0 of their readers have access to, or a
deliberately-annoying Britannica website (see
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-December/048231.html
and thread), they
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Judson Dunn
cohes...@sleepyhead.org wrote:
That's good news, thanks for doing this research! I bet there's some
confusion abotu what self-created means, but I can't think of a
better term for it really. creation is such a nebulous
David Gerard wrote:
2008/12/23 Wilhelm Schnotz wilh...@nixeagle.org:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Gregory Maxwell
gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Judson Dunn
cohes...@sleepyhead.org wrote:
That's good news, thanks for doing this research! I bet there's
some
http://law.justia.com/virginia/codes/toc1001000/10.1-1004.html
All I get out of Virginia State law, ATM, concerns archaeology.
Maybe I should keep digging, and for some reason, what I hav found so far is
not promising that verizon's stated restrictions on spamming are not more
exact and
You mean, it isn't? And I was so sure! See, bring in that knowledge and fact
stuff and everything goes to hell. So much easier to pass judgment without
looking.
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From: Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de
Subj: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and indecent content
Date: Tue Dec
Okay...I found something, and maybe I should be looking at federal law,
because I do not see it happening reliably. It opens doors to being very
slow. I wish that a brick wall that seems to be verizon boded well for their
taking action on snail mail.
ยง 48-1. Investigation of complaint by
:)
FT2
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Jay Litwyn brewh...@edmc.net wrote:
Okay...I found something, and maybe I should be looking at federal law,
because I do not see it happening reliably. It opens doors to being very
slow. I wish that a brick wall that seems to be verizon boded well
This is probably how some contributors do good work.
They subscribe to a commercial information service, whether it be databases
or whole electronic archives of past issues. And, then they crib from it,
and they know how to defend results, because they saw details in the
experiment, transcript,
2008/12/11 Fran Rogers f...@nutmeg.ws:
(...)
You could also contact his ISP. It puts them in a bad light to
have someone like that on their networks and nearly always
violates TC-they might well want to terminate his service. But
he'll probably just get another ISP; but depending on
He's wasted some time, but he hasn't hurt anyone. Give him one last chance.
Ensure that he sees this thread, and if it stops, let him go.
Cheers:)
Brian
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From: Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com
(...)
Perhaps we should create a Questions and Answers namespace
where we
create articles like [[QA:Why is the sky blue?]] which is a place for
a quasi-disambiguation page that directs people to the correct parts
of Wikipedia?
(...)
I wonder what
From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
Didn't do so well on where are my keys? though I now
know how to ask that in Tagalog.
Did you search your dog?
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For a newcomer to this thread, the abuse is in the what will only stand for
ten seconds category, and as far as I know, the user was addressed. It is
probably even hard to be sure that Hanson does not hav accounts that he
reserves for honest work.
The United States Criminal Code, title 18,
w00t!
Perhaps we can do a data dump of .au localities as well to be combed
through by en:wp editors ...
(no, NOT making rambot articles automatically, human consideration ;-)
- d.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Jessica Coates j2.coa...@qut.edu.au
Date: 2008/12/23
Subject:
Alec Conroy wrote:
On 12/21/08, Thomas Larsen wrote:
I doubt many receivers (of journals, etc.) would be able to
understand them well enough. Academic papers aren't always easy to
understand, especially for a non-expert, and they could be, God
forbid, _misunderstood_.
My experience
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jay Litwyn brewh...@edmc.net wrote:
For a newcomer to this thread, the abuse is in the what will only stand for
ten seconds category, and as far as I know, the user was addressed. It is
probably even hard to be sure that Hanson does not hav accounts that he
Martijn Hoekstra wrote:
snip.
We should really consider the option of making the rangeblock, with a
very clear blocked page, that clearly indicated where users can
complain (verizon) about not being able to edit. And only we know for
sure that Verizon is in the know, that they do realise
2008/12/24 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
Yes. A threat to a competitor's own self-interests can be a great
motivator to promote Wikipedia's low image. It's comparable to the oil
industry's perception of global warming.
It's worked for Britannica and Brockhaus! Oh, wait.
- d.
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
All this talk about copyright on public domain Text is moot.
You cannot copyright something already in the public domain.
You can say you are, but your declaration has no power.
There are plenty of things which people can't just force you to do, but
I am not a lawyer so perhaps I say this in ignorance, however, I find it
hard to believe that the best way of handling this is by arguing that Jeremy
Hanson poses a public or common nuisance to the people of Virginia and
that we should ask local a judge to summon a special grand jury to
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not a lawyer so perhaps I say this in ignorance, however, I find it
hard to believe that the best way of handling this is by arguing that
Jeremy
Hanson poses a public or common nuisance to the people of Virginia and
I called verizon. Answer was a recording referring the case to
secur...@verizon.net from which I hav received no response (AFAIK,
postmaster@ serves the same purpose at any other ISP). I also called Jeremy
Hanson's phone number at 562-431-7852. Yet another answering machine. I left
a message
If we rangeblock all of Verizon, we're giving Grawp exactly what he
wants. He wants to cause disruption, and causing a huge rangeblock is
success for him.
X!
On Dec 24, 2008, at 5:10 PM [Dec 24, 2008 ], Martijn Hoekstra wrote:
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jay Litwyn brewh...@edmc.net
2008/12/24 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2008/12/24 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
Yes. A threat to a competitor's own self-interests can be a great
motivator to promote Wikipedia's low image. It's comparable to the oil
industry's perception of global warming.
It's worked for
On 25/12/2008, Soxred93 soxre...@gmail.com wrote:
If we rangeblock all of Verizon, we're giving Grawp exactly what he
wants. He wants to cause disruption, and causing a huge rangeblock is
success for him.
It doesn't matter what he does or doesn't want. It only matters what
the wikipedia wants.
2008/12/25 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Brockhaus never really tried and Britannica is pretty half hearted to
the point there not even really the go to people when the media want
an anti-wikipedia comment any more.
Yes, I've noticed it getting ad-hoc.
No academic publishing has a
highly
Those following the post a few weeks ago about the announcement by the
Australian Bureau of Statistics that they were going to release their
material under a Creative Commons licence will be pleased to know that
it's happened.
All content on the ABS website (other than logos and other trade
2008/12/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
At this point the prudent move for us is to do nothing and continue to
exist. Which has actually worked out surprisingly well for us so far.
We've never run into anyone significant who's first reaction is to run
to PR people and lobbyists. The PRC is
Hi Ray,
Thomas's position smacks of traditional elitism: Why inform the public
when the public can't understand what you say? You can't expect informed
consent for medical procedures if the public doesn't understand what the
doctor is saying, so why say it in the first place?
I think you've
2008/12/25 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2008/12/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
At this point the prudent move for us is to do nothing and continue to
exist. Which has actually worked out surprisingly well for us so far.
We've never run into anyone significant who's first reaction is to run
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Judson Dunn cohes...@sleepyhead.org wrote:
That's good news, thanks for doing this research! I bet there's some
confusion abotu what self-created means, but I can't think of a better
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