[WikiEN-l] Yet another political alteration...

2009-02-11 Thread Andrew Gray
...but absurdly trivial this time. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7884121.stm I note that the BBC helpfully doesn't tell us what the right answer was! (For the record, Grove Art states b ... ?1485–90; d Venice, 27 Aug 1576, so it's definitely unclear) -- - Andrew Gray

Re: [WikiEN-l] Spoiler-driven plots on movies articles

2009-02-11 Thread xaosflux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Are articles do not exist to be commercials. While YOU may use the article as a movie review to see if you want to watch the movie, other readers may use them for many other purposes. Would you read any of our other articles just to see if you want

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to raise the tone of the wiki

2009-02-11 Thread Patton 123
I've noticed that established users are practically immune to the consequences of being incivil if they aren't absolute trolls. I mean, I could probably say fuck you to a number of people right now and get away with it. Wouldn't it be nice to introduce something similar to 3rr except for

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yet another political alteration...

2009-02-11 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Andrew Gray shimg...@gmail.com wrote: ...but absurdly trivial this time. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7884121.stm snip Well, the news article has been updated as this incident was mentioned on the Floor of the House: Later, Labour MP Peter Kilfoyle

Re: [WikiEN-l] Spoiler-driven plots on movies articles

2009-02-11 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, xaosflux wrote: While YOU may use the article as a movie review to see if you want to watch the movie, other readers may use them for many other purposes. This statement is trivially true no matter what phrase you substitute in. *Any* purpose for using an article is one that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Spoiler-driven plots on movies articles

2009-02-11 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, xaosflux wrote: While YOU may use the article as a movie review to see if you want to watch the movie, other readers may use them for many other purposes. This statement is trivially true no matter what

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread Charlotte Webb
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Patton 123 patton...@gmail.com wrote: I know a de-admining process is proposed practically every other day, but this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EVula/opining/RfA_overhauldoesn't appear to have had much discussion. What do you think about it? Personally I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/11 Charlotte Webb charlottethew...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Patton 123 patton...@gmail.com wrote: I know a de-admining process is proposed practically every other day, but this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EVula/opining/RfA_overhauldoesn't appear to have had

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread Charlotte Webb
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't work for admins that have been around a while - most of the people that contributed to their RFA will have left the project. I wasn't entirely serious and I know it won't be tried, but it would at least

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread David Goodman
It might be reasonable for all active admins for whom there is not an AfD to be reconfirmed. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/11 Charlotte Webb

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/11 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com: It might be reasonable for all active admins for whom there is not an AfD to be reconfirmed. You mean RfA, yes? I think it's perfectly reasonable to invoke the principle of time immemorial and not worry about it.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/2/11 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com: It might be reasonable for all active admins for whom there is not an AfD to be reconfirmed. You mean RfA, yes? I think it's perfectly reasonable to invoke the principle of time immemorial and not

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/2/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/2/11 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com: It might be reasonable for all active admins for whom there is not an AfD to be reconfirmed. You mean RfA, yes? I think it's perfectly reasonable to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/2/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/2/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/2/11 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com: It might be reasonable for all active admins for whom there is not an

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread Scientia Potentia est
Carcharoth: In fact we do have quite a few mailing list admins around. These include: Pierre Abbat, Brion VIBBER, Robert Merkel, Manning Bartlett, Vicki Rosenzweig, Bryan Derksen, Taw, AxelBoldt, The Cunctator, Magnus Manske, Tim Starling, and several others I've neglected to mention. As far as

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/11 Scientia Potentia est bibliomaniac...@yahoo.com: Carcharoth: In fact we do have quite a few mailing list admins around. These include: Pierre Abbat, Brion VIBBER, Robert Merkel, Manning Bartlett, Vicki Rosenzweig, Bryan Derksen, Taw, AxelBoldt, The Cunctator, Magnus Manske, Tim

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread geni
2009/2/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: I have occasionally referred to some of our more common-sense disabled editors as Turing Test failures ... Which is a bit of a problem if you want to have credibility addressing a civility issues. -- geni

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/11 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/2/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: I have occasionally referred to some of our more common-sense disabled editors as Turing Test failures ... Which is a bit of a problem if you want to have credibility addressing a civility issues. Well, I don't

[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia before Wikipedia: Trictionary

2009-02-11 Thread David Gerard
http://www.futureofthebook.org/blog/archives/2009/02/wikipedia_before_wikipedia.html - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Desysopping

2009-02-11 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/11 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com: It might be reasonable for all active admins for whom there is not an AfD to be reconfirmed. You mean RfA, yes? I think it's perfectly reasonable to invoke the