[WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread David Gerard
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7914828.stm It's an article on how wonderful it is that political movements are better documented in their formative stages these days ... but all I could think was what a pain it can be researching anything that happened before 1995. After the low-hanging

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/4 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: (I've been *really annoyed* lately when a fact in an article has a reference ... but it's been tagged {{fact}} because it doesn't have an *online* reference. Suggestion: searching for all articles with /ref{{fact in them and sending 50,000 volts through

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread geni
2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and stock sold off that you don't have to get that obscure before you have to turn to the rather expensive out of county loan system. For example

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread geni
2009/3/4 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and stock sold off that you don't have to get that obscure

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Saintonge
Durova wrote: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova This is in the Outer Limits of Sam's complaint. For someone who can't get to his local library to find what is already there the notion of interlibrary loans is an unfathomable mystery. Ec On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Sam

Re: [WikiEN-l] PDF generation enabled for live testing onen.wikipedia.org

2009-03-04 Thread Platonides
Jay Litwyn wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Pageprintable=yes That is what I found when I was looking for what Brian Vibber means in this thread. It is not PDF; It is -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN . It removes the most dynamic links I can think of, and those

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and stock sold off that you don't have to get that obscure before you have to turn to the rather expensive out

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/4 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net: It confuses me when access to British democracy depends on paying only $2.95 to an American supplier. Could you explain that reference? ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Oldak Quill
2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan centres with dozens of vast

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Durova
That would be brilliant. Great idea! Fwiw, I have a query like that for anyone who has access to the local records of Roubaix, France. Trying to find the birth and/or death dates for Jean Desbouvrie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Desbouvrie Possible April Fool's FA here; small topic. The

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Phil Nash
Oldak Quill wrote: 2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan centres

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Noah Salzman
On Mar 4, 2009, at 1:28 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The quick answer is yes. I recall running acrost it a few years ago. I think I may have even added my own name for something or other. I have a rather large library (for an individual) in my house. The problem is, I can't quite

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread geni
2009/3/4 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: There should be a way of finding out about these things, and perhaps some sort of give us your old books drive would be worth trying. Neither the WMF nor chapters are really in a position to store large numbers of books and for the most part

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Getting access to existing collections and permission to make copies of them (county archives will generaly photocopy stuff for you but they won't let you point a camera at the stuff) is a more significant issue at this point.

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread geni
2009/3/4 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Getting access to existing collections and permission to make copies of them (county archives will generaly photocopy stuff for you but they won't let you point a camera at the stuff) is a more significant issue at

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Saintonge
Phil Nash wrote: Oldak Quill wrote: 2009/3/4 Durova: Two words: interlibrary loan. That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Saintonge
David Gerard wrote: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Getting access to existing collections and permission to make copies of them (county archives will generaly photocopy stuff for you but they won't let you point a camera at the stuff) is a more significant issue at this point.

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Phil Nash
Ray Saintonge wrote: Phil Nash wrote: Oldak Quill wrote: 2009/3/4 Durova: Two words: interlibrary loan. That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and stock sold off that you don't

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/5 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com: and a decent bibliography on any topic may be one of the greatest services Wikipedia provides in a few years. It's one of the greatest services we provide *now*. Even when the article prose has been turned into querulous grey mush, all but

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Oldak Quill wrote: 2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity