[WikiEN-l] Usability study in progress

2009-03-25 Thread Naoko Komura
Howdy. (adding wikien-l folks to this thread. my apology for not including wikien-l with my initial email.) The usability study has started today as scheduled. The usability team is monitoring the interviews and how ten test participants interact with Wikipedia when they are asked to edit an

[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread David Gerard
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7962912.stm Primary school pupils should learn how to blog and use internet sites like Twitter and Wikipedia and spend less time studying history, it is claimed. A review of the primary school curriculum in England will be published in a final report next

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7962912.stm Primary school pupils should learn how to blog and use internet sites like Twitter and Wikipedia and spend less time studying history, it is claimed. A review of the primary school curriculum in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/25 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: I don't think the IWF will make that mistake again. I never thought I'd see so many people being so outspokenly against a charity dedicated to fighting child pornography! Well, they know we can tell *instantly* when it happens. And they do

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 3/25/2009 1:34:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, thomas.dal...@gmail.com writes: I don't think the IWF will make that mistake again. I never thought I'd see so many people being so outspokenly against a charity dedicated to fighting child pornography! That response misses the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/25 wjhon...@aol.com: That response misses the point. This Charity operates as a black box, not only censoring but refusing to acknowledge that their acts are hidden, unknowable and possibly arbitrary. We need this level of censorship?  No.  What this charity should do, is operate in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/25 wjhon...@aol.com: In a message dated 3/25/2009 1:59:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, thomas.dal...@gmail.com writes: No, I didn't miss the point. The point is that IWF will not block access to Wikipedia again, You were defending an organization that operates censorship police in a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 3/25/2009 3:02:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Err no we are looking to create an encyclopedia. Government surveillance is a separate issue. You are assuming that we means the project. I used we to mean all right thinking people. Will

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Durova
Getting back to the original post. How's Wikipedia's coverage of history, compared to the average British school textbook? -Durova On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:08 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/25/2009 3:02:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Err no we

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 3/25/2009 3:09:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com writes: How's Wikipedia's coverage of history, compared to the average British school textbook? It's certainly more in-depth in certain areas. What modern textbook will mention three children of Henry

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread geni
2009/3/25 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Getting back to the original post. How's Wikipedia's coverage of history, compared to the average British school textbook? -Durova Probably more comprehensive in that no one has yet worked out how to make a text book 30 foot thick. On the other

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Phil Nash
geni wrote: 2009/3/25 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Getting back to the original post. How's Wikipedia's coverage of history, compared to the average British school textbook? -Durova Probably more comprehensive in that no one has yet worked out how to make a text book 30 foot thick.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/25 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: I don't see much of a problem with this, as a comparison implies some sort of value-judgement. UK primary school history does tend to focus on people a lot, rather than details of historical events.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/25 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: Not so much that the whole encyclopedia was blocked, more that the collateral effect as a result of blocking vandalism was that a bottleneck handful of re-routed proxy IP addresses was blocked; however, there was no block on the image page

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Phil Nash
Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/3/25 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: I don't see much of a problem with this, as a comparison implies some sort of value-judgement. UK primary school history does tend to focus on people a lot, rather than details of historical events. Probably more recent

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Phil Nash
David Gerard wrote: 2009/3/25 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: Not so much that the whole encyclopedia was blocked, more that the collateral effect as a result of blocking vandalism was that a bottleneck handful of re-routed proxy IP addresses was blocked; however, there was no block

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Durova
This discussion of World War I social issues is irresistible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh!_How_I_Hate_to_Get_Up_in_the_Morning -Durova P.S. Shameless plug for an article I wrote. The audio file is a featured sound. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Thomas Dalton

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Phil Nash
Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/3/25 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/3/25 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: I don't see much of a problem with this, as a comparison implies some sort of value-judgement. UK primary school history does tend to focus on people a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Phil Nash
Durova wrote: This discussion of World War I social issues is irresistible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh!_How_I_Hate_to_Get_Up_in_the_Morning -Durova P.S. Shameless plug for an article I wrote. The audio file is a featured sound. Actually, Lise, as an owl rather than a lark, I'm

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-25 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/25 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: I don't see much of a problem with this, as a comparison implies some sort of value-judgement. UK primary school history does tend to focus on people a lot, rather