Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:05 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 January 2010 23:00, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.com wrote: Repeat after me: Pure Wiki Deletion. Last time the subject came up, I believe the advocates were asked for any examples, anywhere, of wikis that use

Re: [WikiEN-l] Removing unsourced information

2010-01-26 Thread Charles Matthews
quiddity wrote: What to do about someone who has lost the plot? For example, this editor seems to be going from article to article, deleting every prose paragraph that doesn't have a ref tag (usually everything except the intro sentence).

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Charles Matthews
Ryan Delaney wrote: On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:05 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 January 2010 23:00, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.com wrote: Repeat after me: Pure Wiki Deletion. Last time the subject came up, I believe the advocates were asked for any

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Adam Koenigsberg wrote: I oppose this mass deletion but support the theory behind it, that is to say, I would support this deletion criteria but believe this to be out of process. Being Bold doesn't extend to administrator tools, IMHO. This reminds me of the Userbox mass

Re: [WikiEN-l] Removing unsourced information

2010-01-26 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: quiddity wrote: What to do about someone who has lost the plot? For example, this editor seems to be going from article to article, deleting every prose paragraph that doesn't have a ref tag (usually

Re: [WikiEN-l] Removing unsourced information

2010-01-26 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010, Apoc 2400 wrote: It is commonly said that anyone can remove unsourced information, and that the burden lies on the editor who wants to include information to provide a source. I have always taken this to mean that if I think something is wrong or otherwise does not belong

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Emily Monroe
Can anybody explain what PWD is? Thanks, Emily On Jan 26, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Ryan Delaney wrote: On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:05 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 January 2010 23:00, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.com wrote: Repeat after me: Pure Wiki Deletion. Last time

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote: Can anybody explain what PWD is? Pure Wiki Deletion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pure_wiki_deletion_system Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Charles Matthews
Emily Monroe wrote: Can anybody explain what PWD is? Surely. But in another thread, I hope. Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Removing unsourced information

2010-01-26 Thread Charles Matthews
Gwern Branwen wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: quiddity wrote: What to do about someone who has lost the plot? For example, this editor seems to be going from article to article, deleting every prose paragraph that

[WikiEN-l] Office hours tomorrow, Wednesday, January 27.

2010-01-26 Thread Cary Bass
Hello all! Tomorrow's office hours will feature Rebecca Handler, the Foundation's Head of Major Gifts. If you don't know Rebecca you can read all about her at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Rebecca_Handler. Office hours tomorrow are from 2330 to 0030 UTC (3:30 PM - 4:30 PM PST). If

Re: [WikiEN-l] Removing unsourced information

2010-01-26 Thread William Pietri
On 01/26/2010 01:18 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote: The problem is that even if you're only supposed to remove contentious unsourced material, there's absolutely nothing anyone can do to you if you remove noncontentious material. I think it's reasonable to ask the remover if they're actually

Re: [WikiEN-l] Removing unsourced information

2010-01-26 Thread David Goodman
I've been checking our FAs, and they too contain unsourced material. It is presumably sourced in the general references somewhere. The best way of making such article totally unreadable would be to put inline sources for every sentence. The only place I have ever seen it done is some of the more

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread David Goodman
I appreciate being listed as an honorable exception, but I'm not an except. I see a lot of other people doing just the same as as I--about 3/4 of the articles I see on prod and put aside to be worked on later in the day, are in fact sourced by the timer I get there. sometimes, rather

Re: [WikiEN-l] Removing unsourced information

2010-01-26 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: Gwern Branwen wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: quiddity wrote: What to do about someone who has lost the plot? For example, this editor

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Adam Koenigsberg wrote: I oppose this mass deletion but support the theory behind it, that is to say, I would support this deletion criteria but believe this to be out of process. Being Bold doesn't

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:45 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: snip Agreed with David G. on this point. The general sentiment to keep up with BLPs is ok, I think; but most of the time sources can be found for most bios. (And yes, I do make an occasional hobby of sourcing random

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread The Cunctator
Sheesh. I was on a press conference call today with one of the deleted people as a speaker. *Robert Corell* is the Director of the Global Change Program at The H. John Heinz III Center for Science, Economics, and the Environment and is a Senior Policy Fellow at the Policy Program of the American

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread George Herbert
Where was Robert Corell's article previously? Perhaps my search was inadequate but I didn't find it looking quickly... -george On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:07 PM, The Cunctator cuncta...@gmail.com wrote: Sheesh. I was on a press conference call today with one of the deleted people as a speaker.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

2010-01-26 Thread Sarah Ewart
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:46 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: Where was Robert Corell's article previously? Perhaps my search was inadequate but I didn't find it looking quickly... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Corell ___