Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread Charles Matthews
Gwern Branwen wrote: The [[dwm]] deletion discussion has caught the interest of some of the more nerdy online communities: - http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/b8s29/the_wikipedia_deletionists_are_at_it_again_this/ - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1163884 It's interesting

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2010 13:25, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Charles Matthews Oh yes, and what Carcharoth said about FLOSS history needing the secondary sources: if they don't write the history, it isn't just WP coverage that suffers, but the whole

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 March 2010 13:25, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Charles Matthews Oh yes, and what Carcharoth said about FLOSS history needing the secondary sources: if they don't write the

[WikiEN-l] Chile earthquake article vs Haiti earthquake article

2010-03-05 Thread Carcharoth
Has anyone been following the way editing has developed on the en-Wikipedia articles on the Haiti and Chile earthquakes? It looks quite different to me. For some reason, the editing has tailed off a lot on the Chile earthquake article (could the fact that the article was semi-protected for the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2010 13:30, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of these deletions are on the complete absence of evidence that anyone outside the project actually cares. By project you mean dwm, not Wikipedia,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Chile earthquake article vs Haiti earthquake article

2010-03-05 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Has anyone been following the way editing has developed on the en-Wikipedia articles on the Haiti and Chile earthquakes? It looks quite different to me. For some reason, the editing has tailed off a lot on the Chile

Re: [WikiEN-l] Chile earthquake article vs Haiti earthquake article

2010-03-05 Thread Nathan
I suspect the semiprotection has a lot to do with it. If our policies were more clear, we wouldn't have a debate every time a high profile event leads to a higher rate of editing. But we do, and a good portion (maybe even a majority) of the time the related article(s) end up protected in some

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: As usual, one has to sift the arguments. Why aren't blogs included under RS? That would be because they are generally unreliable? One of the things that's bizarre about notability is that it requires reliable sources to establish notability.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Chile earthquake article vs Haiti earthquake article

2010-03-05 Thread Rob
There's also the lack of interesting controversies to spur editors' interest in the Chilean earthquake. With Haiti, you had Pat Robertson's stupid comments, the alleged attempted kidnapping of orphans, the invasion of Scientology, etc. Haiti's geographic proximity also increased relative

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread Charles Matthews
Ken Arromdee wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: As usual, one has to sift the arguments. Why aren't blogs included under RS? That would be because they are generally unreliable? One of the things that's bizarre about notability is that it requires reliable sources

Re: [WikiEN-l] Another notability casualty

2010-03-05 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:53 PM 2/24/2010, Ken Arromdee wrote: You shouldn't *need* to go through this level of debate just to keep a page around when the notability rules could be fixed instead. Otherwise we're no longer the encyclopedia anyone can edit, we're the encyclopedia that anyone with an extraordinary