[WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread MuZemike
I found this read from the University of Illinois at Chicago Journal interesting about the featured article process and how it does lack in certain areas, including a need for more subject-matter experts to look at these FAs:

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Nathan
Interesting; it says that of 22 articles reviewed, 12 were found to not meet even Wikipedia's criteria for featured articles. The abstract advises scholars not to naively believe [Wikipedia's] assertions of quality. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting; it says that of 22 articles reviewed, 12 were found to not meet even Wikipedia's criteria for featured articles. The abstract advises scholars not to naively believe [Wikipedia's] assertions of quality. Sorry,

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Amory Meltzer
Three were on the fence so while the article may report a 55% success rate, it also is stating a 32% failure rate. ~A On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:33, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting; it says that of 22 articles

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Andrew Gray
On 16 April 2010 16:38, Amory Meltzer amorymelt...@gmail.com wrote: Three were on the fence so while the article may report a 55% success rate, it also is stating a 32% failure rate. It's hard to tell from their scoring system which the three borderline ones were, though. Interestingly, the

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Interestingly, the seven clear failures exhibit a strong correlation between quality and time - the points get lower as they get older. For the other articles, there's little or no correlation between the time since

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Steve Summit
http://www.uic.edu/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/2721/2482 I found three quotes quite interesting: David Archer [...] remarked that he could tell [the article on global warming] was not written by professional climate scientists[.] Among the

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Charles Matthews
Andrew Gray wrote: On 16 April 2010 16:38, Amory Meltzer amorymelt...@gmail.com wrote: Three were on the fence so while the article may report a 55% success rate, it also is stating a 32% failure rate. It's hard to tell from their scoring system which the three borderline ones

Re: [WikiEN-l] robotically generated content

2010-04-16 Thread Del Buono, Matthew Paul
But it would seem the technology is still some way off. I don't know. I think I have found a good use for it. http://cpedia.com/search?q=wikipedia+talk This way, I can monitor all the talk pages I usually watch without having to go to them individually! -- Shirik

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Ian Woollard
FWIW I noticed that there was actually a FA review recently where the article actually meets a deletion criteria, but it was simply delisted for insufficient references. The FA review criteria doesn't emphasise checking things like that, and the kinds of people that do reviews seem to care mainly

Re: [WikiEN-l] robotically generated content

2010-04-16 Thread Emily Monroe
I find Cpedia rather...hilarious, for some reason. I don't see the point to it, otherwise. Emily On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Del Buono, Matthew Paul wrote: But it would seem the technology is still some way off. I don't know. I think I have found a good use for it.

Re: [WikiEN-l] robotically generated content

2010-04-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 April 2010 20:25, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote: I find Cpedia rather...hilarious, for some reason. I don't see the point to it, otherwise. You'll love this blog entry: http://www.cuil.com/info/blog/2010/04/13/cpedia-and-its-detractors He fails to realise the *only* people

Re: [WikiEN-l] robotically generated content

2010-04-16 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:07 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: You'll love this blog entry: http://www.cuil.com/info/blog/2010/04/13/cpedia-and-its-detractors He's not too far off the mark with some of his comments in that blog; it's an unfortunate side effect of the style of

Re: [WikiEN-l] robotically generated content

2010-04-16 Thread William Pietri
On 04/16/2010 03:09 PM, Nathan wrote: http://www.cuil.com/info/blog/2010/04/13/cpedia-and-its-detractors He's not too far off the mark with some of his comments in that blog; it's an unfortunate side effect of the style of communication the Internet encourages that experimentation

Re: [WikiEN-l] robotically generated content

2010-04-16 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:29 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: I think there are ways to signal that you are doing something as an experiment and with the requisite humility. A good example is Google Sets, which is part of Google Labs: http://labs.google.com/sets One of their

Re: [WikiEN-l] robotically generated content

2010-04-16 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2010 01:05, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: That is a fair and thoughtful indictment of their approach. I have no particular problem with the other comments in this thread either -- they weren't all substantial criticism, but that's fine as far as it goes. A lot of other

[WikiEN-l] Citizendium dead?

2010-04-16 Thread David Gerard
In March 2010, about 90 people made even a single edit to Citizendium: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Statistics#Number_of_authors Compare Conservapedia, which has 76 at the time I write this. The difference is, the latter is pretty much a personal website run by a gibbering fundie lunatic

Re: [WikiEN-l] Citizendium dead?

2010-04-16 Thread Nathan
According to that stats page, the project added 7.7k words per day during March 2010 - the most since September 2009. Unless I miss the meaning of the words per day column, that seems to show that the project is at least no worse off this year than last. There seems to be a winter dip in editing,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Citizendium dead?

2010-04-16 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2010 03:57, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: According to that stats page, the project added 7.7k words per day during March 2010 - the most since September 2009. Unless I miss the meaning of the words per day column, that seems to show that the project is at least no worse off