Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 16/01/2011 23:46, Tony Sidaway wrote: We don't need to be able to find every single thing on the internet, only the useful stuff. A huge amount of the useful stuff is on Wikipedia. This is true, but not particularly objective. The OP's question itself has merit. The long-term view surely

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 January 2011 04:03, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:  Then, in 2010, he posts to Talk:Jimmy Wales that I was born on the 7th of August, according to my mother. My legal paperwork all says 8th of August, due to an error on my birth certificate.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 January 2011 00:50, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader as a deranged vendetta. Correction: Jimmy is our founder, he is not our leader. We don't have a leader. ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-17 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 16/01/2011 23:46, Tony Sidaway wrote:   We don't need to be able to find every single thing on the internet, only the useful stuff.  A huge amount of the useful stuff is on Wikipedia. This is true,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Marc Riddell
on 1/17/11 7:30 AM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 January 2011 00:50, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader as a deranged vendetta. Correction: Jimmy is our founder, he is not our leader. We

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't sound like a lie to me. A lie is saying something that you know to be untrue, this is simply a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 January 2011 04:03, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Or, if you need the whole story: I think you've just proven Tony's point. Glad to be of service. ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-17 Thread Tony Sidaway
I suppose my problem here is understanding how the discussion goes from the useful part of the web is expanding faster than we can keep up to there is a problem with this. On deep and semantic web, these are useful concepts that will help us to develop more capable data mining tools, but not

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't sound like a lie to me. A

Re: [WikiEN-l] Main page changes for 10th anniversary

2011-01-17 Thread MuZemike
IMO I think it was certainly a welcome change (the FL, FT, and FS) if anything else. It's almost natural to suggest that we do something like this on a monthly (or even more) basis. It would most certainly increase overall quality, as Featured Content (especially Featured Lists) would be

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 January 2011 16:55, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: That's what he said September 18, 2004.  So no, this wasn't an honest mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says).  And it wasn't even just Wales being misleading, as he so often does.  This was an intentional lie.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 January 2011 16:55, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: That's what he said September 18, 2004.  So no, this wasn't an honest mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says).  And it wasn't even

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-17 Thread Skyring
As a Queensland schoolboy, I watched the Apollo 11 landing on 21 July 1969, received through Australia's radio telescopes at Parkes and Honeysuckle Creek, while at the same instant it was late on 20 July 1969 for the American audience basking in a glow of rightful pride. Perhaps Jimmy was playing