Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The key to avoid decision-making on Wikipedia being taken over by single-interest groups is to ensure wide-ranging and continued participation by a reasonable number of independent editors with new voices being added to the mix to avoid ossification stagnation. At various times, one or

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: The next ten years of Wikipedia should be about multiplying the number of real-life scholars and experts participating. The Ambassadors program is a good start. Once the demographics change, the rest will follow; and until

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread Mark
On 2/3/11 11:59 AM, Carcharoth wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Andreas Kolbejayen...@yahoo.com wrote: The next ten years of Wikipedia should be about multiplying the number of real-life scholars and experts participating. The Ambassadors program is a good start. Once the demographics

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 February 2011 11:26, Mark delir...@hackish.org wrote: What about Wikipedia's culture actually led to an encyclopedia being written, with a lot of good information, and a fairly neutral tone for the most part? Nerds are obsessive about things being right and not wrong. This leads to most

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 February 2011 11:28, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: NPOV is IMO W ... Wikipedia's greatest innovation, greater than just letting everyone edit the website. -d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Thu, 3/2/11, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: NPOV is IMO Wikipedia's greatest innovation, greater than just letting everyone edit the website. Yes and no. We haven't exactly invented the neutral point of view. Scholarly encyclopedias strive for an even-handed presentation that is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread MuZemike
I'm sorry, but if I see somebody starting to source information from such tabloids you mentioned, especially information on biographies of living people regarding stuff that is not confirmed, there are going to be problems with me. -MuZemike On 2/3/2011 10:59 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: --- On

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Thu, 3/2/11, MuZemike muzem...@gmail.com wrote: From: MuZemike muzem...@gmail.com I'm sorry, but if I see somebody starting to source information from such tabloids you mentioned, especially information on biographies of living people regarding stuff that is not confirmed, there

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread wiki
I'm sorry, but if I see somebody starting to source information from such tabloids you mentioned, especially information on biographies of living people regarding stuff that is not confirmed, there are going to be problems with me.-MuZemike All well in theory, but have you looked? The Daily

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread Fred Bauder
I'm sorry, but if I see somebody starting to source information from such tabloids you mentioned, especially information on biographies of living people regarding stuff that is not confirmed, there are going to be problems with me.-MuZemike All well in theory, but have you looked? The Daily

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread geni
On 4 February 2011 01:32, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: One is expected to use sound editorial judgment. Using British tabloids for a biography of a living person falls outside that remit. One is expected to have some familiarity with what is an appropriate source for the subject.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: We should also recognise that our definition of NPOV is actually far from mature, and still beset with problems [...] it is not easy to say what fair, proportionate representation actually ought to mean in practice. I