[WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread David Gerard
Larry Sanger started Citizendium with a detailed plan for precisely how it would work, which he detailed in a Slashdot article in 2005 and kept firmly to. This produced the weird phenomenon where he treated user suggestions like they were *threats*. I just read a Paul Graham article which contains

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread Sarah
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:26, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Larry Sanger started Citizendium with a detailed plan for precisely how it would work, which he detailed in a Slashdot article in 2005 and kept firmly to. This produced the weird phenomenon where he treated user suggestions

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread Fajro
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:26 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: in the encyclopedia game? I sure hope so. How do you beat Wikipedia? With more Wikipedias. This is my idea for Wikipedia:

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread Marc Riddell
on 4/7/11 2:26 PM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote: Larry Sanger started Citizendium with a detailed plan for precisely how it would work, which he detailed in a Slashdot article in 2005 and kept firmly to. This produced the weird phenomenon where he treated user suggestions like they

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread MuZemike
Perhaps I'm missing the point, but isn't that what we have been doing so far (i.e. with all the other sister Wikimedia projects)? -MuZemike On 4/7/2011 1:37 PM, Fajro wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:26 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: in the encyclopedia game? I sure hope so. How

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 April 2011 21:56, MuZemike muzem...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm missing the point, but isn't that what we have been doing so far (i.e. with all the other sister Wikimedia projects)? Yes, but also other niches Wikipedia leaves. Wikia, for example, started to form wikis of any sort, but

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread Fred Bauder
On 7 April 2011 21:56, MuZemike muzem...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm missing the point, but isn't that what we have been doing so far (i.e. with all the other sister Wikimedia projects)? Yes, but also other niches Wikipedia leaves. Wikia, for example, started to form wikis of any sort,

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Woollard
You should be careful what you wish for. It's not hard to make a 'viable competitor' encyclopedia that would be so corrupt and inaccurate it would make the Fox News network... look like a news network. And if it was glossy and facile enough, plenty of people would probably be dumb enough to use

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread MuZemike
Why does Conservapedia come to mind :) -MuZemike On 4/7/2011 7:03 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: You should be careful what you wish for. It's not hard to make a 'viable competitor' encyclopedia that would be so corrupt and inaccurate it would make the Fox News network... look like a news network.

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread geni
On 8 April 2011 01:03, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: You should be careful what you wish for. It's not hard to make a 'viable competitor' encyclopedia that would be so corrupt and inaccurate it would make the Fox News network... look like a news network. And if it was glossy and

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Woollard
On 08/04/2011, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: more successfully hoodong Yes, although on some articles it's interesting to read, translated back to me via google translate, what is clearly my own text, with the same images I selected, from an encyclopedia that claims they now own the copyright

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

2011-04-07 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
IMO, the next best thing will be whatever can come along and solve our social and community problems technologically, while being easier to edit. Treat assholes like bugs in the software - code around them, figure out how you can make the experience downright painful for them while making it