Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-14 Thread Amory Meltzer
No. This may not be ideal but that is certainly worse. Damn the torpedos! ~A On Monday, June 14, 2010, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 06/14/2010 01:12 AM, Cenarium sysop wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Cenarium sysopcenarium.sy...@gmail.comwrote: You'll soon have

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-12 Thread Amory Meltzer
There was always going to be a bit of Damned if you do, Damned if you don't; It's just unavoidable in a community this large. ~A ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Amory Meltzer
Love the rest, but the We'll be watching it carefully is a little creepy. ~A On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 22:57, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: We don't and can't right now but we should probably say something on these lines just because people will wonder how long to expect and saying something

Re: [WikiEN-l] Updated new search interface on the prototype

2010-05-20 Thread Amory Meltzer
Well, according to Google, there are somewhere between 1.5 and 1.8 billion internet users in the world. If we ignore those numbers and say only 1B use the internet, then according to Alex wikipedia.org gets about 13.5% of internet users. That's 135 million users. We definitely don't have

Re: [WikiEN-l] The new look to Wikipedia

2010-05-13 Thread Amory Meltzer
Delete and protect are in the dropdown arrow next to the star on the upper-right. Block is where it always was, on the toolbar on the left, but you have to click the arrow to display the menu. The reason none of your scripts worked is that they are all in [[User:WereSpielChequers/monobook.js]].

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-13 Thread Amory Meltzer
It's counter-intuitive, perhaps, but I find the internet community as a whole to be surprisingly unaccepting of change. ~A On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 09:16, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: People should probably take blog and blog comment reaction with quite a bit of salt. I've been

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-13 Thread Amory Meltzer
I absolutely agree. I'd never use vector to edit, but from a purely reading point of view (which is still 50% of how I use Wikimedia) it's gorgeous, and very smooth, and I feel definitely highlights the editing aspect as well. ~A On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 16:21, AGK wiki...@googlemail.com

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

2010-04-16 Thread Amory Meltzer
Three were on the fence so while the article may report a 55% success rate, it also is stating a 32% failure rate. ~A On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:33, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting; it says that of 22 articles

Re: [WikiEN-l] Climate change on Wikipedia

2009-12-19 Thread Amory Meltzer
I'll add that it doesn't appear to actually be a story yet, just a submission made through Firehose. Regular /.ers have clearly spoken as to how they feel about it, as noted by the colorful tags placed on the submission and its poor rating. Meanwhile, the article itself is a misleading,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Random featured article...

2009-12-14 Thread Amory Meltzer
Proposed by Durova: Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Featured content stars for featured pictures Inoffensive? To some, not to others. ~A On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 16:04, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Random featured article...

2009-12-12 Thread Amory Meltzer
These two links may be of interest to you: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dapete/random/enwiki-featured.php http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dapete/random/enwiki-good.php As found on [[User:Csörföly D/random featured article]] ~Amory ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Create an article as a newbie challenge now paused

2009-11-16 Thread Amory Meltzer
Sort of like getting annoyed with a police officer for giving you a warning for speeding. No harm done to anyone, just don't speed next time. Pun intended. ~A On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:35, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Gregory Maxwell wrote: It seems that,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Newbie and not-so-newbie biting

2009-09-18 Thread Amory Meltzer
I wouldn't exactly call that post nice. It reads to me like just another person complaining. The argument that an article about a non-profit can't be an advertisement is absurd. I recognize that NPPs should on the whole be nicer to submissions from newer users, but the overwhelming majority of

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-08-31 Thread Amory Meltzer
Not saying I disagree with you, but with that in mind and looking at the test example, I'd say that the more useful concept isn't the ability to rate editors - which I could do without, it's a little too anti-AGF imho - but its usefulness as a metric of how many people have edited a particular

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-22 Thread Amory Meltzer
I have a feeling a lot of those are duplications of templates placed on a page - Macbeth linking to Romeo and Juliet (and vice versa) was my first example. Multiple search terms would seem to be the real place this would be useful, to minimize crossover from templates. ~A On Sat, Aug 22, 2009

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-22 Thread Amory Meltzer
Duplicating the function of templates - maybe not the best word to use. A better one might be misinterpreting. ~A On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 14:36, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Amory Meltzer amorymelt...@gmail.com wrote: I have a feeling a lot

Re: [WikiEN-l] Usability testing (Try Beta)

2009-08-06 Thread Amory Meltzer
It does, however, automatically put you back to the Monobook skin, which is clearly only an issue if you use something else. ~A On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 21:29, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: Try clicking on it, don't worry it doesn't change the format or anything unless you confirm it

Re: [WikiEN-l] Do experts have a moral obligation to contribute to Wikipedia?

2009-08-02 Thread Amory Meltzer
Only as much as off-duty doctors, lifeguards, EMTs, etc. have to attempt to save someone's life. Good-samaritan laws exist for a reason. ~A On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:26, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: http://blog.k1v1n.com/2009/08/if-tree-falls-in-forest-part-1.html He thinks that

Re: [WikiEN-l] US city requires Internet account passwords from employees

2009-06-22 Thread Amory Meltzer
I don't put my religion on my CV and would not want any prospective employer knowing about it - not because I'm ashamed about it, just that it's private information which isn't relevant to how good (or otherwise) a job I'll do. That's the point. Giving them your usernames and passwords to

Re: [WikiEN-l] US city requires Internet account passwords from employees

2009-06-19 Thread Amory Meltzer
I doubt it'll last. The ACLU is correct on the page when they say I liken it to them saying they want to look at your love letters and your family photos, it's just excessive. It's also largely against the TOS for most of these sites. It's an interesting view at the sort of importance and clout

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] en.wiki migrated to new search backend

2009-06-04 Thread Amory Meltzer
Well, of the five, the fifth is irrelevant, and the first will be obvious automatically once you start typing. WP:S has the descriptions copied verbatim (admittedly poor), but I think we all know how often that gets viewed. I'd be neglect to introduce something else to the search bar itself for

Re: [WikiEN-l] Docs look to Wikipedia for condition info: Manhattan Research

2009-05-25 Thread Amory Meltzer
Rollback definitely works on the article's diff page. Twinkle also does the same thing (assumes continued vandalism/agf) for all its various options. ~A On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:20, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote: On an article, rollback will do that if there is a sequence of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Docs look to Wikipedia for condition info: Manhattan Research

2009-05-25 Thread Amory Meltzer
The exact specifications of the Little Boy bomb remain classifiedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_informationbecause they could still be used to create a viable nuclear weapon. First line of the section. That sort of sums up this whole debate - it's essentially a risk-benefit