Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

. Not all these judgments will be correct. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

the people who edit Wikipedia trying to get along in a normal workplace) and the diversity of the articles. There is also an argument that a homogenous workplace would work against 'neutral point of view'. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

to be able to rise above. The discussion that resulted from the redirect James Clerk-Maxwell was interesting as well. It *started* with a rather abrupt template notice, but the resulting discussion was good in the end. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] The end of donations

to it? Carcharoth answered that question in October or November snip I'm not entirely sure I did answer that question back then (I can't find anything on a brief search). I might have done, so if you point me to an e-mail I wrote to this list, I'll accept that. Even if I did, no-one should have

Re: [WikiEN-l] Three millionth article pool?

we have been slower to get from 2 million to 3 million, than from 1 million to 2 million. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien

Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

in the past when this subject has been brought up, then return their attentions to what they think is important. The bottom line here is: what can we passengers do about it when we aren't the ones driving? What? This is Wikipedia. The passengers *are* driving! Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

How about... The Wikipedia community is too large and diverse for any single standard of civility to be effective. Careful application of broad standards of civility need to be adapted to individual situations, while not compromising core values. Is that accurate or not? Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

is needed; not it's hopeless, because it's too big. Nonsense! I didn't interpret what Carcharoth said to mean that that's it's hopeless. I think what he meant was We have several core values that we refuse to compromise on, yet we recognize that they need to be applied on a case by case basis

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Andrew Grayandrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: 2009/8/9 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: So all the biographies of women could be tagged woman? That would work, but only if the woman tag wasn't applied to other things as well. Maybe you would have to have

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

/Template_talk:GeoGroupTemplate/Archive_1#Polar_co-ordinates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Polar_map~ Unfortunately, the Antarctica map seems to have broken, and it seems the template never got further than the design stage. I hope someone chases that up at some point. Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

- fails reads Magnus's next e-mail with link to manual... Aha! Thanks! :-) Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

? :-/ Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

page names, OR for the check for template bit to have an option to check the talk page of the articles in the category, rather than the actual pages in the category. Can this tool do that? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

is a redirect turned back into stub... Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

, includes music groups, and also some other group biographies, rather than single biographies). But really, if it is only a couple of hundred where the gender is disputed or not known, then there should be no objection to classifying the others by gender. Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model

, as that is one that people have to pay for, then Will objects to that. I don't entirely agree with that, but I think that is what he was saying. Will, if I'm getting this wrong, it might mean you need to try again and explain what you were saying. Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

are different. Ideally, you would have both, or a clear of idea of what would be primary tags (what we call categories) and what are descriptive tags. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 28

. Of course, public libraries are generally less useful than university libraries, and the copyright libraries in theory have copies of most everything printed, but still. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model

them and ask them to open the book at the right page and put it in front of their webcam? They do still have a continuously streaming live webcam, right? Or am I thinking of some other remote research station? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Charles Matthewscharles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: Bryan Derksen wrote: David Gerard wrote: 2009/7/30 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: sob http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Animal_births_by_year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model

written about. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model

on your user page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bodnotbod Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model

: Blatant hoax with possible G10 aspects) I also looked at the deleted version of the article, and it was a copy of this, I think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_James_Sidis Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model

doing some charity work or on holiday, or doing some useful community service. That would get you barnstars! BTW, did you see the link I posted in the other post? That hoax article was real, just the wrong name. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model

be very useful when trying to ferret out obscure details of what went where and what happened when. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model

there, but I've never gotten a request for anything.  However, that might solve the problem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange The shortcuts to remember are WP:RESOURCE and WP:LIBRARY. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

linked at the bottom in the hope that others will come along later and add more. I suppose the question is whether such articles are better built up bit by bit over time from a small stub, or given a hefty start. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roads_in_the_United_Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Roads_in_Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Transport_templates_by_continent I think you get the idea. A big bias towards Anglophone countries. Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Usability testing (Try Beta)

at the same time. Users are asked to participate in a quick short survey when they opt-out. This feature is scheduled to be enabled early August. Has anyone tried this new skin Acai yet? Or the other Beta options? What do you think? Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Bod Notbodbodnot...@gmail.com wrote: snip I notice that some people now are adding refs to 'genre' tags now, to thwart the genre trolls. Not that that required any technical fiddling, but I'm just saying in passing. Genre tags? Genre trolls? Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] In development--BLP task force

be handy if you could tell us what the board resolutions are. I think it is this one: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Biographies_of_living_people Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] In development--BLP task force

to everyone to go back and read the original e-mail by Cary and to write to him if you are interested in the BLP taskforce that he is putting together. Please don't let any of the side-threads about these meta issues detract from that. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

to start explaining *why* they won the award... (which it, after all, the whole point really). Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

link (though someone needs to click every link at some point, like I just did, and check they are the chemists in question, which at first glance, they do seem to be). Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Andrew Grayandrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: 2009/8/4 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: In other words, I like using what links here to find out when something is mentioned in the article *text*, rather than when it is merely mentioned in a navbox template

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Charles Matthewscharles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: Anyway, what I wanted to know was whether there are places on Wikipedia where such approaches to lists and checking links is documented? I do remember something about various lists

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Charles Matthewscharles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: Where is the current activity on the DNB project? It's something I had kept in mind and wouldn't mind getting involved with at some stage. It's supposedly organised around

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

let my keyboard run away with me there. Sorry! :-) Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Where does en:wp need most help?

. Carcharoth (talk) 20:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC) Here is the history of the assessments: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Biography_(core)_articles_by_quality_statistics Back in November 2008, it was: FA: 21 A: 2 GA: 27 B: 115 C: 34 Start: 1 http://en.wikipedia.org/w

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

the 1880s and 1890s. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

church, yes. The modern one - no. The local MP, yes. The fishmonger - no. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Do experts have a moral obligation to contribute to Wikipedia?

want to say about lists and redlinks, but I'll do that in another thread. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

[WikiEN-l] Lists and redlinks and link maintenance

or guideline on link maintenance in lists would be useful (or a link if it already exists somewhere). Or whether there are any other common things that need checking when working with such lists. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

, look away now... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Famous_animals Carcharoth PS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucephalus ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

category use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Animal_amputees http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Famous_lobsters And going full-circle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_Presidential_pets Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Animal_monuments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Cod_of_Massachusetts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_Perm_Bear Nice to know that Laika is on this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_Conquerors_of_Space Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] deletionists look away (or maybe look back again)

Also a mention here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marston_Moor#Aftermath Called a lapdog, so searches for dog wouldn't find that. Carcharoth On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:09 PM, WereSpielChequerswerespielchequ...@googlemail.com wrote: Our preoccupation with the modern era triumphs again

Re: [WikiEN-l] A modest proposal - a recap of resolution-l

. And there is no stable object for discussions to revolve around. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] A modest proposal - a recap of resolution-l

statements with a reworded but equally accurate  Current compromise or resolution. Is there a suitable place on-wiki to put a summary of some of the points in this thread? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Role_of_Jimmy_Wales_in_the_English_Wikipedia Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] A modest proposal - a recap of resolution-l

. Volunteer resources are finite, after all. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

realising what offence it might cause. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

predates the foundation mailing list. Do we have a mailing list historian around here? I know I could look back at the earliest archives, but a personal touch would be nice if there are any, ahem, *real* dinosaurs around here. Any of the 2001 crew still subscribed? Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: Point them at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_%28dog%29 :-) I don't think anyone could !vote delete for such a cute little dog! Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

and what protection should be afforded, if any, are not going to go away. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

, and the performance of that score by an orchestra. Admittedly, the analogy might be being stretched to breaking point here. But the blogs are good, so do read those! Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

[WikiEN-l] Comparing Wikipedia to other wikis

I recently came across this page, on another wiki, where they compare themselves to Wikipedia. Interesting or not? What good points do they make? http://groupprops.subwiki.org/wiki/Groupprops:Groupprops_versus_Wikipedia Does anyone else know of any other comparison essays out there? Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Comparing Wikipedia to other wikis

they make? http://groupprops.subwiki.org/wiki/Groupprops:Groupprops_versus_Wikipedia Does anyone else know of any other comparison essays out there? Carcharoth Well, there was a nice comparison of de and en I read a while back in userspace. Unfortunately because of our recent mania to NOINDEX

Re: [WikiEN-l] Bad pictures? Better than missing ones!

, all lacking an image, even though they all have appeared at big public events. Can you do a list of all featured articles about people lacking a lead picture? Or is that the lot? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:FA-Class_biography_articles Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Bad pictures? Better than missing ones!

articles of living people and FA-Class_biography_articles. Might take a while, though. My memory is useless. I did this a while back (so now out of date): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carcharoth/Featured_BLPs Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] ANI curiosity

FT2, why not do a proper analysis of a week or two weeks of requests at the admin and other noticeboards, to get some concrete figures, and not just a general feeling? Carcharoth On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:26 PM, FT2ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't be so quick to call it nuisance. We have

Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC: Bill Thompson: Wikipedia is flawed and that's OK

://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/digitalrevolution/2009/07/what-was-my-goal-when-i-came-u.shtml Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Nature of Facts

sources. Oh the circularity! It hurts! Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Brand Republic: BBC Radio 4 launches Wikipedia parody

parodying the internet by mocking pop-ups, search boxes and other aspects of online activity. Listening now - utterly realistic wiki-stuff with _dab pages not avoided_! Indeed. Good Lord, they've actually rendered Wikipedia to audio perfectly ... Sounds great. Do they do transcripts? Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] How wikipedia could link into File Protection.

Maybe the ideas aren't good enough? :-) Carcharoth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM, FT2ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: I have had an idea how we could help resolve POV and sourcing wars, that would fit very well with Wikipedia philosophy. I might dust it off some time. The mood in the community

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Fac ts, but It’s a Desert for Photos

to be lower to avoid discouraging people. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Fac ts, but It’s a Desert for Photos

, is that an acceptable source on Commons? Can the photo be verified in any way? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Fac ts, but It’s a Desert for Photos

areas, which may require specialised and expensive equipment. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Fac ts, but It’s a Desert for Photos

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:06 PM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/20 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: It would be interesting to compare why low-resolution is considered OK here, to support and encourage the revenue stream of a professional photographer, but not in the case

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Fac ts, but It’s a Desert for Photos

and others. Does the presence of an arguably less relevant free picture (of them when they are old) dissuade people from attempting to get a free picture that may be more relevant to the article (from when they were young)? Carcharoth On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Durovanadezhda.dur...@gmail.com

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Fac ts, but It’s a Desert for Photos

somewhere to how having shortcuts dedicated to an institutions photographs can avoid nofollow. Something like [[:xy:image name.jpg]]? Is that acceptable or not? Carcharoth On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Durovanadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote: Usually I prefer the carrot to the stick and take a very

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Fac =?win...

that this is not necessary to fulfill attribution requirements of the GFDL or Creative Commons licenses as long as the appropriate credit is on the image description page. I would suggest looking in the talk page archives for more. Carcharoth On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:41 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Fac =?win...

.28in_captions.29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Captions#Image_credits_in_captions No archive for that talk page yet. When one is created, the above links will break. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] NYT: Wikipedia May Be a Font of Facts, but It's a Desert for Photos

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Durovanadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote: snip Don't write that as an essay on Wikipedia; write it as an article for a photography trade magazine. Exactly. Might be worth seeing if anyone on Commons has contacts in these areas. Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

that we don't have to keep telling people numbers from Oct 2006 ... Cool! I'm too lazy to look. Anything there worth discussing? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm Cool! I'm too lazy to look. Anything there worth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

/dispute_between_wikipedia_art_gallery_heats_up/index.html?FORM=ZZNR6 Thanks for running this story. A small correction: my name is Derrick Coetzee, not David Coetzee as recently misprinted by the BBC. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:43 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: Could someone link to Erik Moeller's blog post and to any of the press releases from the WMF? There's been no press releases from WMF as such - Mike Godwin is, funnily

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanencimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: Most of that is the sale of contemporary copyrighted photographs (by living photographers earning money from their trade). But some of that will be the commercial sale of scans of PD stuff

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanencimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: One more point: The British Association of Picture Libraries and Agencies has backed the National Portrait Gallery's stance. We don't have an article on BAPLA, but we do have five references

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: snip You may want to look through the BAPLA list and see if any charities or non-profit organisations are there - there might well be, as I've never looked through

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

, or the industry is far more consolidated than in Europe (1053 members of the European equivalent body). 100 sounds a bit low, unless there are some giants in there like Corbis. But still, it would be interesting to see how many museums and other heritage organisations are in that lot. Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright of newly found image of Phineas Gage from 1850

potentially last indefinitely. In the copyright situation today, and with the advent of the internet, what challenges face legislators comparing transient media with those that can potentially last indefinitely? Carcharoth On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote

Re: [WikiEN-l] MediaWiki is getting a new programming language

an idea of the level of programming (in)competence around here... :-) Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

they were contracted to be paid. Not everyone has noble thoughts about free culture and freeing public domain material, running through their minds all the time. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanencimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: Remember that  the number of (highly skilled) staff required to operate that sort of process may not show up on the NPG payroll, as they may contract that sort of work out to others. Granted

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanencimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: Not everyone has noble thoughts about free culture and freeing public domain material, running through their minds all the time. I hope you will forgive me. I know that is likely

Re: [WikiEN-l] Featured churn

it will be in the next 4 years. Here's a question: how many articles are created and deleted within 24 hours? Are you saying the numbers could go negative?? Contraction in real-terms? :-/ Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Featured churn

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:00 PM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/14 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: Are you saying the numbers could go negative?? Contraction in real-terms? :-/ Carcharoth It's happened at least once. Long term it would be unlikely since most deletions

Re: [WikiEN-l] Featured churn

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Sage Rossragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/14 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: Are you saying

Re: [WikiEN-l] Featured churn

be a spoof of that hypothetical original. Carcharoth PS. OMG, I just scrolled up to the top and saw the movie poster of Jimbo! ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Featured churn

asked. I suggest identifying which of the featured areas you want to see long-term stats for, and asking at the relevant talk pages. An approximation to these stats could be obtained by going through the Signpost summaries. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Grape Lane (euph.)

questions. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] wexperts.net/

in future to post separately, to keep threads separate. And Will, it's not a protected blank page. It says The action you have requested is limited to Checkusers. Carcharoth On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:37 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:  And what does that protected blank page say ? http

Re: [WikiEN-l] Grape Lane (euph.)

in the Signpost where he complained that Andrew Lih's book only mentioned FA twice. Do you have a date or link for that? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: switch to HTML 5

reading. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: switch to HTML 5

, even though posting in the errors reporting section of the talk page for the Main Page is the wrong place to post, you are most likely to find admins there who are not scared of editing the main page. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] MediaWiki is getting a new programming language

wants to reduce the number of curly brackets. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

or preventing the editor themselves from editing it), but what about people ranting on talk pages *after* their block has expired. That would be reblocks due to venting about just-expired block. That might be more tricky. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN

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