, especially if they have just been blocked and are angry about
it.
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On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Durovanadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, a current poll is running 38-18 in favor of treating talk page
incivility the same as incivility anywhere else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
/biblebay.php?bookname=Johnrange=3%3A16-3%3A18
Where should that tool be discussed?
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Matthewscharles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
stevertigo wrote:
feed the corrupted ent?
Do I understand this to be a personal invective directed at me?
It's a Tolkien reference, but I suppose if Carcharoth didn't get it, it
is fairly obscure.
Doh
thought out.
There should, somewhere, be best practice examples of what good
merging can produce. Can anyone find them?
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that can take February 4, 1993 (or
something similar). They had some weird name, similar to the current
templates, but slightly different. I can't find them right now, but
maybe someone else remembers them?
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developers not consulting the
community and therefore making bad decisions. Since you asked.
Now, enough meta-thread?
Seemingly not (from the other posts since).
Can someone explain in layman's terms what this programming language
thing is and how it relates to templates?
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I thought it was more common to try and guess *when*, not *what* the
3,000,000th article will be.
Carcharoth
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Steve Bennettstevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, I've brought it back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Three-millionth_topic_pool
Place your guesses
70,000 or so articles to go. Where is the latest graph showing the
rate of article increase?
Carcharoth
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
I thought it was more common to try and guess *when*, not *what* the
3,000,000th article will be.
Carcharoth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Million_pool
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
I thought it was more common to try and guess *when*, not *what* the
3,000,000th article will be.
Carcharoth
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Steve Bennettstevag
Carcharoth
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Million_pool
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
I thought it was more common to try and guess *when*, not *what
Goodness:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Benjamin_Mako_Hill/11BP
head spins
Carcharoth
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
How silly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_pools
I'm going to go off in a huff now because the pool I
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM, AGKwiki...@googlemail.com wrote:
Um, why are we giving Brion such a hard time?
snip
Brian, not Brion. :-)
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You might want to ask in the technical forum. Hopefully someone can
point you that way, or answer your question here.
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM, akhil1988akhilan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All!
Here's a newbie to this forum.
I am looking for some references to help me use
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Fred Bauderfredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
snip
An example of the sort of thing we might discuss on a dispute resolution
mailing list.
Why not discuss on this list?
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Bit of a cryptic heading? I thought so too when I saw it, but it's
actually quite an interesting use of AWB:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FRONDS
Find/Replace ON Demand Services, in case anyone hadn't worked it out.
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favourable, my reaction was oh, good, that was the right thing to
do. Heh.
I also particularly like the final line of the article.
Worth quoting here:
Wikipedia could not be reached for comment.
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That's a traffic spike right enough.
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on the Wikimedia Foundation's web
servers, which host both Wikipedia and Wikinews, of the news. (link
currently broken)
Link currently broken? Tsk.
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:47 PM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/26 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk:
2009/6/26 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/News_of_Michael_Jackson%27s_death_overloads_Internet_sites_and_sparks_hoaxes
Is there anything anywhere
it much then, and still don't use it much now. It does
point the way to some interesting places, though.
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...was and is an excellent introduction.
However, many (most?) people don't read the manual.
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longer existed, or something clever was done with template coding.
Ultimately, if a page relies heavily on templates or images, a
screenshot or *real* permanent link is needed.
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It might be an idea to survey new(er) users to find out this sort of thing.
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I read that the project involves: a Django application running on Amazon EC2.
Could someone technically minded explain how that differs from a wiki?
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snip
I myself am wondering if anyone has seen any userboxes made into
bumperstickers.
I'm sure I've seen some made into T-shirts.
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A BusStop?
Wow:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TourBusStop
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?TourBusStop
That's so... nice.
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Matthewscharles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I heard of WP, as of early 2003 I suppose, on MeatBall Wiki. This sort
the history of use of each
image), please let me know (I'm going to be uploading some pics
today).
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charities and other non-corporate groups paying, versus academic
funding and grants, versus completely altruistic, gratis volunteer
editing. I think that covers the whole spectrum.
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an article and placing it in
userspace, a NOINDEX template should be used if the article is a BLP.
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snip
Total number of articles: 2,893,595
Total number of articles on people: 673,918 (23.29% of all articles)
Total number of featured biographies: 618 (0.09% of biographies)
Total number of BLPs: 375,584 (55.73
might not be bad.
Carcharoth
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Biography_articles_by_quality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Living_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:FA-Class_biography_articles
to legitimise a previous run of
vandalism edits. Always worth checking the recent history no matter
what edit you are making.
Carcharoth
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:34 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
Of course I agree with you Carcharoth. When you revert vandalism, you
should make sure you're
contributions log, rather than the article, but I
might be wrong there.
Carcharoth
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:06 PM, agk agkw...@googlemail.com wrote:
Sam Blacketer (2009/5/25):
Quite often vandals will come in and keep making vandal edits until they
are stopped
I concur with that. When I come
and require all
editors to identify and verify their medical credentials. There are
limits to what Wikipedia can and should do - it is not a universal
panacea.
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needed, and tick the box saying an editor has read and checked the
whole article.
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content of the article hasn't been changed?
Agree wholeheartedly with Andrew Grey here. For the reasons he gives,
this sort of thing doesn't really work.
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spit out article text, as changes to the template
will affect not only current versions of the article, but also the old
versions of the article if you look at them in the page history.
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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
Wondering how difficult to write
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:56 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/05/the_broken.html
Anyway, my next project is to get a line from the schizophrenia
article into a Madonna song.
LOL!
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Well, yes, but it claims to be free. I guess they start charging later?
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:56 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
Business Model: We'll tell you when someone changes your page, and you
pay us for doing that.
Will
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are sterile when the cultural allusions are lost.
Half (all?) the fun is reading up about them and learning what the
context was and is now.
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than took place
Peloponnesian War (431-404BC), Athens and its empire, against the
Spartan-led Eponymous League.
Peloponnesian War (431-404BC), Athens and its empire vs Spartan-led
Eponymous League.
Eponymous could be confusing. Repeating the word Peloponnesian is
less confusing.
Carcharoth
.
That told me more than the dry facts of the first sentence (which is
also needed). The initial sentence of the middle paragraph is
important as well: The Peloponnesian War reshaped the Ancient Greek
world.
And I still think the Wikipedia-articles-as-poetry option could be
interesting! :-)
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).
Who could correct that?
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On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Carcharoth wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:48 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/5/5 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/5/5 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
know in 140 characters or less. You should read
is?
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After Wikipedia Art, we have Wikipedia Poetry?
Using Wikipedia articles as the inspiration for poems?
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Yes, I agree, that's what slog means. That gives no clue about slog
rank or slog rate, though.
I'm guessing s-log of some sort?
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some discussions are better held at a
centralised, specialised venue, or on the article talk page, is a
long one. There are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches.
It would be good to have a discussion here about that.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notability_in_Wikipedia
Discuss. :-)
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Background:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN#An_article_on_.22Notability.22.3F
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won't google up.
Doc's saying that people delete based on Google results.
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/Wikipedia:Use_of_primary_sources_in_Wikipedia
Marked historical. Though I see I was on that talk page 2.5 years ago.
I must have had a vague memory of that page. Current policy is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary.2C_secondary_and_tertiary_sources
Carcharoth
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10
, is that sufficient?
Or should what you've done there be published and then referenced?
Of course, the sources claiming the birth year as 1892 shouldn't be
removed entirely. Just in case and to stop people changing it when
they see a discrepancy.
Carcharoth
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, wjhon
The other question to ask is why the other sources came up with 1892?
Until you find that out, there is a nagging doubt. Did they find a
different Doran, did they transcribe something incorrectly, or what?
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articles about people.
There was a template to do biography-by-the-numbers, but it might have
got deleted. Several WikiProjects do have fill in the blanks article
templates. They tend to do more harm than good, IMO.
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manufacture.
Ditto for Failsworth: Historically a part of Lancashire, until the
19th century Failsworth was a small agricultural township linked,
ecclesiastically, with the parish of Manchester.
OK, this *is* off-topic now.
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carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
For the record, they are a long way apart. Lancashire (House of
Lancaster - War of the Roses and all that) is in the North-East.
Er, North-West. Stupid edit button doesn't work on this mailing list
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/4/22 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/4/22 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
So it looks like all that low-hanging fruit went by 2002, with the
outliers by 2004.
Some of those outliers aren't
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
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wrote:
2009/4/22 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/4/22 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
So it looks like all that low
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
If they are not willing to type two sentences on an official
site, but ARE willing to type a hundred
?
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It seems the moderator ate the text of my message.
It got through to me first time.
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Can you put kennels on the yacht. And an aviary and some water tanks?
We have a rather large menagerie we need to house:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Radiant!/Classification_of_admins
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/4/20 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
Recently, I've wanted the ability to edit the BBC webpages.
Considering they've fired almost all the subs, they could probably do
with, how you say, crowdsourcing
)]] on the new Windows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Globsters
And sole ownership of Norway.
Ooh. Stakes too high. I fold.
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snip
Eek! A potentially better search engine! (Can I buy stock in Carcharoth? :) )
Vegetable stock or chicken stock?
Carcharoth (feeling peckish)
[In all seriousness, disambiguation pages are a good way to find
obscure topics
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League_2008%E2%80%9309#Semi-finals
I believe you can e-mail them to correct stuff, but really, why bother.
Page last updated at 14:13 GMT, Monday, 20 April 2009 15:13 UK -
let's see how many people from the BBC read this mailing list...
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5
employer, or if the
author himself released it as a PD text?
Or to put it another way - is it acceptable for Wikipedia to co-opt
other authors into the collective credit that the authors of a
Wikipedia article take for that article?
Carcharoth
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Carcharoth wrote:
Interestingly, this feeds into a current discussion going on about the
use of PD text. The discussion (which may have got a little out of
hand, is on the talk page of the Signpost's article about plagiarism
I used Google Translate. I would post the entire translation here, but
not sure if that is OK or not, so I'm only posting the translation of
the first sentence.
Have you thought about Wiki design a specific work of polishing
modules-tickets?
Looks like a poor translation anyway.
Carcharoth
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:04 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
snip
There's a way to tell the order in which people joined Wikipedia?
What is it?
Possibly [[Special:Preferences]], and your user ID.
My user ID is between 165,000 and 166,000.
And I created my account on 8 January 2005.
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for years.
I noticed it on the CENT template on someone else's talk page.
Which reminds me, I should put the CENT template on my user page.
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someone uninvolved
to close it would work.
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2009/4/11 Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com:
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Ron Ritzman ritz...@gmail.com wrote:
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advertising_discussions
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Please see [[Wikipedia:Advertising discussions]], a proposal I've made
to formalise guidelines on where and how the largest discussions
should be advertised around Wikipedia to ensure sufficient input to
major
time.
Are you sure? I checked back to 2004ish, back when we were still using
a single discussion page, and I'm sure it seemed to be about five
then.
Did that include VfD?
Possibly my history file has been corrupted.
Or you are thinking of a different process? MfD? RfA?
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On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Incidentally, one of the downsides of notifications posted at AN and
ANI is that they are only there until the bots archive them (that's
only
/wiki/Wikipedia
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Citizendium
It's quite interesting reading those four articles and comparing them.
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Bill Carter billdeancar...@yahoo.com wrote:
Alan Cabal's name was just struck once again from the New York Press article.
It has been delinked, not removed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_York_Pressdiff=282741269oldid=282729469
Carcharoth
that
into layout and the category structure has never really taken hold or
been possible.
The closest I saw was the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Category_types
But that didn't seem to gain any ground. Maybe someone might want to
take another look?
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personalized presentations, reduces the number of elments from 14 to 5
and the code size from 798 to 248 bytes.
Have you sent this to the people who work on geocoding on Wikipedia?
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On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Håkon Wium Lie howc...@opera.com wrote:
I've analyzed Wikipedia's HTML code for representing geographical
coordinates. The current code is verbose and does not support the Geo
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snip
Any other suggestions?
No. Those places look right.
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Hopefully it can be tweaked to distinguish between removal and
replacement with a death category. And then people can check edits
made claiming someone has died, and make sure reliable sources have
been provided for such claims.
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been happening.
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
I did not suggest doc that anyone can review.
Review what I said again.
I said that established users can review, that it should be an
automatic right at a certain point and that admins cannot remove
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Sam Korn smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hopefully it can be tweaked to distinguish between removal and
replacement with a death category. And then people can check edits
made claiming
.
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it was destroyed!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#Destruction_of_the_Library
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Carcharoth
carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
Agreed. Though is it annoying when you see people working on things to
address this, and then see critics, who inspired some people, carry
and recharge itself. Less
long sessions editing Wikipedia, and more targeted editing, adding
more value-per-click (ugh, I can't believe I just said that).
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making a comeback in another form?
I liked Encarta - it was the first real encyclopedia I used. So I feel
a bit torn here.
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