Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-09 Thread Charlotte Webb
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: mumble about sensitive eyes and medical condition Just remember glaucoma is the best excuse for everything, Carch. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Sam Korn smo...@gmail.com wrote: In the unlikely event that my

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-09 Thread Durova
(cough) Looked up the price of tuition at a Stateside university lately? It's hardly free. Including interlibrary loans in the bargain is the least they could do in return. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Charlotte Webb charlottethew...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:56 PM,

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-08 Thread Michael Bimmler
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:31 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Interlibrary loans at your university (or public library) are not free at all. They are just free for *you*, because your university picks up the tab for you. The average cost of an item borrowed through ILL at a

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-08 Thread Sam Korn
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Michael Bimmler mbimm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:31 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Interlibrary loans at your university (or public library) are not free at all. They are just free for *you*, because your university picks up the

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-08 Thread Michael Bimmler
Ahem, the below is so off-topic that I intended to send it offlist, really. Me blushes somewhat and, with his list admin hat on, tries to steer the discussion on-topic again. M. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Michael Bimmler mbimm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Sam Korn

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-05 Thread Charlotte Webb
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Oldak Quill oldakqu...@gmail.com wrote: That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan centres with dozens of vast libraries a

[WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread David Gerard
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7914828.stm It's an article on how wonderful it is that political movements are better documented in their formative stages these days ... but all I could think was what a pain it can be researching anything that happened before 1995. After the low-hanging

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/4 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: (I've been *really annoyed* lately when a fact in an article has a reference ... but it's been tagged {{fact}} because it doesn't have an *online* reference. Suggestion: searching for all articles with /ref{{fact in them and sending 50,000 volts through

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread geni
2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and stock sold off that you don't have to get that obscure before you have to turn to the rather expensive out of county loan system. For example

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread geni
2009/3/4 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and stock sold off that you don't have to get that obscure

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Saintonge
Durova wrote: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova This is in the Outer Limits of Sam's complaint. For someone who can't get to his local library to find what is already there the notion of interlibrary loans is an unfathomable mystery. Ec On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Sam

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and stock sold off that you don't have to get that obscure before you have to turn to the rather expensive out

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/4 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net: It confuses me when access to British democracy depends on paying only $2.95 to an American supplier. Could you explain that reference? ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Oldak Quill
2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan centres with dozens of vast

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Durova
That would be brilliant. Great idea! Fwiw, I have a query like that for anyone who has access to the local records of Roubaix, France. Trying to find the birth and/or death dates for Jean Desbouvrie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Desbouvrie Possible April Fool's FA here; small topic. The

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Phil Nash
Oldak Quill wrote: 2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan centres

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Noah Salzman
On Mar 4, 2009, at 1:28 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The quick answer is yes. I recall running acrost it a few years ago. I think I may have even added my own name for something or other. I have a rather large library (for an individual) in my house. The problem is, I can't quite

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread geni
2009/3/4 Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk: There should be a way of finding out about these things, and perhaps some sort of give us your old books drive would be worth trying. Neither the WMF nor chapters are really in a position to store large numbers of books and for the most part

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Getting access to existing collections and permission to make copies of them (county archives will generaly photocopy stuff for you but they won't let you point a camera at the stuff) is a more significant issue at this point.

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread geni
2009/3/4 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Getting access to existing collections and permission to make copies of them (county archives will generaly photocopy stuff for you but they won't let you point a camera at the stuff) is a more significant issue at

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Saintonge
Phil Nash wrote: Oldak Quill wrote: 2009/3/4 Durova: Two words: interlibrary loan. That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Saintonge
David Gerard wrote: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Getting access to existing collections and permission to make copies of them (county archives will generaly photocopy stuff for you but they won't let you point a camera at the stuff) is a more significant issue at this point.

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Phil Nash
Ray Saintonge wrote: Phil Nash wrote: Oldak Quill wrote: 2009/3/4 Durova: Two words: interlibrary loan. That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity to check off-line resources, while other users live in metropolitan

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com: Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and stock sold off that you don't

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/5 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com: and a decent bibliography on any topic may be one of the greatest services Wikipedia provides in a few years. It's one of the greatest services we provide *now*. Even when the article prose has been turned into querulous grey mush, all but

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Oldak Quill wrote: 2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Two words: interlibrary loan. -Durova That gives me an idea. Some users live in rural areas far away from large book repositories, with little capacity