Sorry to keep the thread going, but there's a couple of things that I
am going to long-windedly expound on... apologies in advance to people
who don't care.
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:31 PM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
*cough* librarians? *cough*
Steve,some comments:
1. The best role of a librarian is to teach other people how to do
research, just as Phoebe didi with Charles Matthews, and Ben Yates
for her colleagues did with Charles Matthews, and Ben Yates in
''How Wikipedia Works''
(http://howwikipediaworks.com/ the free online
neutrality does not exist. it is impossible to work intelligently on a
subject without developing a view about the disputed questions. To
search for documents on must know what the issues are; to find
relevant documents it is necessary to examine the documents found, so
one inevitably forms an
Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Just because one strives for neutrality does not mean that one ever
achieves it.
Some of don't strive for objective neutrality - some of us strive for
subjective perfection! Take the politicized and the religious, for
example. Objectivity does not
Carcharoth wrote:
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:37 AM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Well the WP:SOHE idea to me seems a reasonable compromise -- one that
makes small parts of copyright texts open to our research needs, while
still respecting the needs of authors to keep whole
stevertigo wrote:
David Goodman wrote:
Quite apart from the incredible range available from a research
library, the great majority of *Wikipedians,* even experienced ones, do
not use even those sources which are made available free from local
public libraries to residents.
Do
Carcharoth wrote:
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:37 AM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
Well the WP:SOHE idea to me seems a reasonable compromise -- one that
makes small parts of copyright texts open to our research needs, while
still respecting the needs of authors to keep whole works
stevertigo wrote:
Carcharoth wrote:
WP:SOHE being the page that you wrote recently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sourcehelpers
Did you not think of trying to make Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource
Exchange more active, rather than starting a new page and a new
proposal?
I
stevertigo wrote:
The philosophic roots of this view make sense, but how do we resolve the
opposing tendencies of bottlenecks on one side and dispersion of ideas
on the other?
Instead of fixing a hole, or not doing something for fear of creating
new holes (or just for fear of holes in
David Goodman wrote:
Quite apart from the incredible range available from a research
library, the great majority of Wikipedians, even experienced ones, do
not use even those sources which are made available free from local
public libraries to residents. Many seem not to even think about using
David Goodman wrote:
Quite apart from the incredible range available from a research
library, the great majority of *Wikipedians,* even experienced ones, do
not use even those sources which are made available free from local
public libraries to residents.
Do these libraries *digitize* their
If they are not in copyright, Open Libraries Intiiative and Google
Books are doing quite nicely;
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:52 PM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
David Goodman wrote:
Quite apart from the incredible
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