[WikiEN-l] (Off Topic) Re: Biography of Living persons

2009-01-03 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
toddmallen wrote: People are readily identifiable by the information given about them anyway. How hard is it to find the Star Wars kid's name, even from our article, where all the sources we use readily publish it, or a google search on the article title brings it right up? If something is in

[WikiEN-l] Who The Hell Writes Wikipedia, Anyway?

2009-01-03 Thread Steve Summit
A recent recycling of Aaron Swartz's analysis of the difference between who-makes-the-most-edits, versus who-contributes-the-most-content: http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009/1/who-the-hell-writes-wikipedia-anyway I think we all know the real story, but it's fascinating how much traction

Re: [WikiEN-l] Who The Hell Writes Wikipedia, Anyway?

2009-01-03 Thread Phil Sandifer
This should be required reading - it completely upends fundamental assumptions about our content, and has huge implications for things like deletion. The sense that our inclusion and notability policies put us at odds with readers who are not major parts of the community has always been

Re: [WikiEN-l] Who The Hell Writes Wikipedia, Anyway?

2009-01-03 Thread Phil Sandifer
On Jan 3, 2009, at 11:39 AM, geni wrote: 2009/1/3 Phil Sandifer snowspin...@gmail.com: This should be required reading - it completely upends fundamental assumptions about our content, and has huge implications for things like deletion. The sense that our inclusion and notability policies

Re: [WikiEN-l] Who The Hell Writes Wikipedia, Anyway?

2009-01-03 Thread Steve Summit
Phil wrote: This should be required reading... The sense that our inclusion and notability policies put us at odds with readers who are not major parts of the community has always been there, but this troublingly nails it: the population of people who write articles and people who delete

Re: [WikiEN-l] Who The Hell Writes Wikipedia, Anyway?

2009-01-03 Thread Charles Matthews
Steve Summit wrote: Inclusion and notability policies ought to be based neither on what an anonymous contributor is interesting in writing, nor what a self-appointed policy wonk deems notable or encyclopedic, but rather, on what some nontrivial numbers of our readers are interested in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Who The Hell Writes Wikipedia, Anyway?

2009-01-03 Thread geni
2009/1/3 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com: I think that is could be, not ought to be. The mission is not to maximise readership: as of early 2009, it still to write the encyclopedia. You know, the old Wikipedia some of us have thought we are writing for a few years now. As

Re: [WikiEN-l] Who The Hell Writes Wikipedia, Anyway?

2009-01-03 Thread Heebie
Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about. The article is fundamentally flawed - you can see it contradicts itself with no other knowledge or figures to hand. They say that The bulk of Wikipedia is written by 1400 obsessed freaks who do little else but contribute to the site, but then go

Re: [WikiEN-l] Who The Hell Writes Wikipedia, Anyway?

2009-01-03 Thread Charles Matthews
Heebie wrote: So it seems to me that Swartz's work backs-up Wikipedia as being a truly crowd-sourced project, and only goes against Wales' original remarks, which were a bit worrying in the first place. Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick here? A two-layer model of how content

Re: [WikiEN-l] (Off Topic) Re: Biography of Living persons

2009-01-03 Thread toddmallen
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: toddmallen wrote: People are readily identifiable by the information given about them anyway. How hard is it to find the Star Wars kid's name, even from our article, where all the sources we use readily publish