[WikiEN-l] Image credits on the main page (revisited?)

2009-12-30 Thread Angus McLellan
It's strange the things you never really see until your bogosity alarm goes off. I only registered that we give an image credit for the featured picture on the main page because of the author name appearing next to today's image. Leaving aside the cognitive dissonance episode that made me notice

Re: [WikiEN-l] Image credits on the main page (revisited?)

2009-12-30 Thread Carcharoth
Oh, this is the issue of where restorers get credit? It should be indisputable that restorers get credit, the issue is where to display that. The common situations are: 1) Photographer is Joe Bloggs - appears on image page 2) Photographer is famous and has article - gets mentioned in caption on

Re: [WikiEN-l] Image credits on the main page (revisited?)

2009-12-30 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: For restorers, I would say that the image page is where they should be named, but the image caption could maybe say: restored by Wikipedia/Wikimedia volunteer - that is the key point, Would I encounter a wave of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Image credits on the main page (revisited?)

2009-12-30 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: For restorers, I would say that the image page is where they should be named, but the image caption could maybe say: restored by

Re: [WikiEN-l] Image credits on the main page (revisited?)

2009-12-30 Thread Nathan
Is there a guideline that prevents a restorer (or other author) from crediting themselves in the image itself? Other discussions I've seen today about this subject include the topic of in-image credit, beginning with its expected presence in traditional media and debating whether its acceptable in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Image credits on the main page (revisited?)

2009-12-30 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Would I encounter a wave of hostility if I said that a short list of volunteers should be credited for featured articles? Probably. Try it and see! :-) Hee hee. Well, it's something that could potentially arise

Re: [WikiEN-l] How smart people fail to share

2009-12-30 Thread Ray Saintonge
Keegan Paul wrote: Can you explain the obvious to people it isn't obvious to? With references? - d. Ah, well, that's the advantage of a wiki. If you know what to do and can't explain it, you can {{sofixit}} yourself with others to review and figure things out on their own.

Re: [WikiEN-l] How smart people fail to share

2009-12-30 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Ray Saintonge wrote: When sourcing and original research rules start to exemplify a phobia about being wrong the system has come around to bite us in the ass. The trickster/raven has come home to roost. My personal bugbear is cite tags on facts that are attributed in plaintext rather