[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia research

2012-05-23 Thread N.J.L. Geurts
Dear English speaking Wikipedia users, Sjarlot Stal and Nick Geurts, both Master students at Tilburg University, would like to gather more insight in the motives of your Wikipedia behaviour. This survey will be spread among the various Wikipedia sites of several cultures. The duration of the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Lum Hats in Paradise

2012-05-23 Thread Charles Matthews
On 22 May 2012 17:48, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On 5/22/12, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Brian McNeil's productive work in Edinburgh. I particularly like the idea of recruiting newbies at libraries - with all those lovely old printed references right there to hand.

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:43 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony wrote: What established framework are you talking about, here? I'm referring to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines (and more importantly, the underlying principles). An editor, acting in good faith, might

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:45 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Gwern Branwen wrote: Anthony's complaint there is more one complaining about what he thinks is a misleading summary. It's been asserted that your experiment's parameters were poorly selected (and therefore won't yield

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread David Levy
Anthony wrote: What established framework are you talking about, here? I'm referring to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines (and more importantly, the underlying principles). An editor, acting in good faith, might believe that creating pages for dictionary definitions or dessert

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:23 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony wrote: What established framework are you talking about, here? I'm referring to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines (and more importantly, the underlying principles). An editor, acting in good faith,

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread David Levy
Anthony wrote: You certainly should revert Gwern's changes.  There's no dispute about that. Indeed, but that's a different context; we were discussing the appropriateness of Gwern's experiment and ones like it. The data may still be useful. Agreed.  I don't assert that the experiment is

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:54 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony wrote: You certainly should revert Gwern's changes.  There's no dispute about that. Indeed, but that's a different context; we were discussing the appropriateness of Gwern's experiment and ones like it. So we

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Lum Hats in Paradise

2012-05-23 Thread David Goodman
Even with the retention problems, getting more people to even start will help.. Even if only 1% of the people who make their first edit go on to write substantial articles, getting more people to make that first edit will improve our numbers at every stage. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:34 AM,

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread David Levy
Anthony wrote: So we need to weigh the harm vs. the benefits, right? Right. I don't know whether this experiment's benefits will outweigh its harm. I only know that the community had no opportunity to discuss the matter (including possible improvements) and arrive at a determination.