On 17 January 2011 04:03, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
Then, in 2010,
he posts to Talk:Jimmy Wales that I was born on the 7th of August,
according to my mother. My legal paperwork all says 8th of August, due
to an error on my birth certificate.
On 17 January 2011 00:50, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader
as a deranged vendetta.
Correction: Jimmy is our founder, he is not our leader. We don't have a leader.
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on 1/17/11 7:30 AM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 January 2011 00:50, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader
as a deranged vendetta.
Correction: Jimmy is our founder, he is not our leader. We
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather
than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't sound like a lie
to me. A lie is saying something that you know to be untrue, this is
simply a
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 January 2011 04:03, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
Or, if you need the whole story:
I think you've just proven Tony's point.
Glad to be of service.
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather
than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't sound like a lie
to me. A
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Carcharoth
carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather
On 17 January 2011 16:55, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
That's what he said September 18, 2004. So no, this wasn't an honest
mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says). And
it wasn't even just Wales being misleading, as he so often does. This
was an intentional lie.
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 January 2011 16:55, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
That's what he said September 18, 2004. So no, this wasn't an honest
mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says). And
it wasn't even
As a Queensland schoolboy, I watched the Apollo 11 landing on 21 July
1969, received through Australia's radio telescopes at Parkes and
Honeysuckle Creek, while at the same instant it was late on 20 July
1969 for the American audience basking in a glow of rightful pride.
Perhaps Jimmy was playing
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Sent: 16 January 2011 23:27
To: English Wikipedia
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)
Does every thread referring to Jimmy Wales really have to become a
venue for some deranged vendetta? How does this help us to write an
encyclopedia
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader
as a deranged vendetta.
I thought Tony was merely engaging in some gentle self-criticism.
--
Peter in Canberra
And for the avoidance of doubt, I was referring to Anthony's decision
to drag in a reference to pointless blog discussion thread about Jimmy
Wales' birth date.
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
And for the avoidance of doubt, I was referring to Anthony's decision
to drag in a reference to pointless blog discussion thread about Jimmy
Wales' birth date.
I guess one person's pointless blog discussion thread is
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
And for the avoidance of doubt, I was referring to Anthony's decision
to drag in a reference to pointless blog discussion thread about Jimmy
Wales'
On 17 January 2011 04:03, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
Or, if you need the whole story:
I think you've just proven Tony's point.
- d.
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So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be taken
literally?
It is simply a totem. If you want to be cruel you call it a sound-bite which
takes liberty with reality, if you want to be kind you call it a
foundation-myth which serves to encapsulate the ethos and meaning of
'So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be
taken literally?'
I don't see why not. It's far from unusual for a tech-savvy user to
type that phrase into a document as a first test. I would be surprised
if anyone expressed a good reason to doubt it.
On 14 January 2011 12:01, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
'So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be
taken literally?'
I don't see why not. It's far from unusual for a tech-savvy user to
type that phrase into a document as a first test. I would be surprised
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 January 2011 12:01, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
'So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be
taken literally?'
I don't see why not. It's far from unusual for a tech-savvy
On 14 January 2011 12:25, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
One possibility, though, is that he typed it at some point, but there
was an earlier edit he forgot. Memory can be a selective thing. What
you would look for, if going further into this, is the first time he
recalled this
On Friday, January 14, 2011, Thomas Dalton wrote:
Sure, Jimmy is certainly capable of making mistakes, but unless there
is evidence to suggest that he did it seems sensible to me to assume
that he is correct. As you say, it's not a critical piece of
information so we don't need to try and
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 January 2011 12:01, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
'So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be
taken literally?'
I don't see why not. It's far from unusual for a tech-savvy
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:10 PM, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Wikipedia becomes more like religion every day.
With a God-King in a cloud realm and the occasional crucifixion. Not
to mention passing the plate on a regular basis.
I think it is important that we don't develop the same
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember that in 1992 I was stung by a wasp near the end of a day in
York. I would happily take you to the precise location outside York
station, I said fuck. There is absolutely no documentation for this.
It
world can read and extend. It's an Incredibly ambitious project--ten
years ago it was plainly nuts. But look how far we've come towards
that goal!
Hello world!
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prefer to take Hello world as the motto
of Wikipedia.
Everything we know about the world, presented in a form the entire
world can read and extend. It's an Incredibly ambitious project--ten
years ago it was plainly nuts. But look how far we've come towards
that goal!
Hello world
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