Re: [WikiEN-l] Front Page on BLPs

2011-08-24 Thread Charles Matthews
On 23/08/2011 19:54, Ken Arromdee wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Charles Matthews wrote: But bias of the kind he works with is a really unhelpful concept for us, in practice: especially when trivialised by being metricated. What other way is there to claim bias than being metricated? Is he

[WikiEN-l] Hudong

2011-08-24 Thread Tony Sidaway
I hadn't heard of Hudong before. This article by Rebecca Fannin calls it China's Wikipedia and says it has a 95% market share and more than 5 million entries from 3.6 million contributors. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rebeccafannin/2011/08/23/why-draper-funded-chinas-wikipedia/ English Wikipedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hudong

2011-08-24 Thread Fred Bauder
I hadn't heard of Hudong before. This article by Rebecca Fannin calls it China's Wikipedia and says it has a 95% market share and more than 5 million entries from 3.6 million contributors. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rebeccafannin/2011/08/23/why-draper-funded-chinas-wikipedia/ English

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hudong

2011-08-24 Thread Andrew Lih
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: I hadn't heard of Hudong before. This article by Rebecca Fannin calls it China's Wikipedia and says it has a 95% market share and  more than 5 million entries from 3.6 million contributors.

[WikiEN-l] Editing anonymously though having an account and other moral dilemmas.

2011-08-24 Thread Bod Notbod
Hi, There's a company operating in the UK that has a large number of controversies attached to it. Because this mail will be publicly viewable/searchable (and for other reasons that may become clearer as you read on) I shan't name them. The article for the company already has a substantive

Re: [WikiEN-l] Editing anonymously though having an account and other moral dilemmas.

2011-08-24 Thread Nathan
In my opinion, from an ethical standpoint, there is minimal or no difference between editing as Bod NotBod and editing as an IP address. To answer your second question, unless Bod NotBod is your real name using your IP address makes it more likely (not less) that your identity will be traced and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Editing anonymously though having an account and other moral dilemmas.

2011-08-24 Thread geni
On 24 August 2011 23:20, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Is it ever acceptable to purposely edit an article when logged out (ie, as an IP) if one has an account of long standing? Yes. 2. If I did this IP editing, would I have [ complete / little / no ] protection from being traced

Re: [WikiEN-l] Editing anonymously though having an account and other moral dilemmas.

2011-08-24 Thread Bod Notbod
Thank you Nathan and Geni, Nathan I may take you up on your offer. But using a library computer is another option I had been considering. It's gone midnight here now, so I'll sleep on it. Thank you once again, Bodnotbod. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] Editing anonymously though having an account and other moral dilemmas.

2011-08-24 Thread WereSpielChequers
I think one key question is whether you have already edited this article in such a way that this sockpuppetry might verge into abusive sockpuppetry - i.e. two accounts that appear to support each others arguments/edits being secretly controlled by the same person. If not, or if your only edits to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Editing anonymously though having an account and other moral dilemmas.

2011-08-24 Thread geni
On 25 August 2011 00:31, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Also I'd suggest rereading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock and notifying Arbcom of your alt account, No reason to notify arbcom. If there account is an abusive sock it won't help you and if it isn't arbcom

Re: [WikiEN-l] Editing anonymously though having an account and other moral dilemmas.

2011-08-24 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 08/24/11 3:30 PM, Nathan wrote: Fourth, it's hard to say without understanding more exactly what kind of threat you are under. Probably I'd do it myself anyway, but that's a purely personal decision. Failing that, you could provide the referencing information to someone else and have them

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hudong

2011-08-24 Thread Dana Lutenegger
I think that it is also worth pointing out that, in my experience, articles on Hudong are pretty bad. They are poorly formatted, poorly written, generally lack inline referencing, and often have copyright violations. Baidu Baike is of somewhat higher quality, though I think that both pale in