Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:SpamBlacklist download painful

2009-02-24 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:30 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: KP == K Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au writes: KP http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/SpamBlacklist OK, I tried it, but Download MediaWiki extension From MediaWiki.org Invalid response from remote

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dump processes seem to be dead

2009-02-24 Thread Platonides
Robert Ullmann wrote: All servers should be monitored, on several levels (ping, various queries, checking processes) Nagios should have been monitoring them. Someone should be watching the monitor 24x7. (being right there, or by SMS, whatever ;) Don't know if there can be a nagios silent

Re: [Wikitech-l] http://en.wikipedia.org/ -- 301 Moved Permanently

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/24 jida...@jidanni.org: Hello, say, when we are running our link checker programs and see HEAD http://en.wikipedia.org/ -- 301 Moved Permanently HEAD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page -- 200 OK HEAD http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/ -- 301 Moved Permanently HEAD

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dump processes seem to be dead

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/24 Robert Ullmann rlullm...@gmail.com: When a server is reported down (in this case hard; won't reply to ping) it should be physically looked at within minutes. Is there anyone within minutes of the servers at all times? Aren't they at a remote data centre?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dump processes seem to be dead

2009-02-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anyone within minutes of the servers at all times? Aren't they at a remote data centre? Isn't Rob on-site? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dump processes seem to be dead

2009-02-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Is there also a Rob in Amsterdam and Seoul ? Thanks, GerardM 2009/2/24 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anyone within minutes of the servers at all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript localization, minify, gzip cache forever

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Dale
Yes performance does improve a great deal as the browsers pre-fetch in parallel. Its definitely a long overdue feature for browsers :) But it will still should be more efficient / faster to do one request instead of many in parallel. Even with parallel fetching the default in the Firefox

Re: [Wikitech-l] devious looking $bookstoreList

2009-02-24 Thread Brion Vibber
On 2/22/09 5:52 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: You must excuse me but if you take a look in mediawiki-1.14.0rc1/languages/messages/MessagesRu.php there's this hundreds of bytes long string of z's etc. at $bookstoreList. Looks like somebody cut-n-pasted a URL that includes some session info or

[Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Sergey Chernyshev
I've made some customizations to OpenID selector code ( http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/) and combined it with MediaWiki OpenID extension, you can see the result here: http://www.sharingbuttons.org/Special:OpenIDLogin Iwant to check it in back into the repository, but it uses New BSD

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dump status update

2009-02-24 Thread Russell Blau
Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote in message news:49a42729.4070...@wikimedia.org... Quick update on dump status: * Dumps are back up and running on srv31, the old dump batch host. Please note that unlike the wikis sites themselves, dump activity is *not* considered time-critical --

Re: [Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Sergey Chernyshev sergey.chernys...@gmail.com wrote: I've made some customizations to OpenID selector code ( http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/) and combined it with MediaWiki OpenID extension, you can see the result here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Sergey Chernyshev
Great - thanks for the license clarification, I don't think I was too excited to re-implement selector. Good point about logos - so what do we do with this? How do we make sure all those logos (including OpenID, BTW) are properly licensed? I don't think original developer thought about that

Re: [Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Be glad that the original developer chose the BSD license. From a perspective of being able to cooperate widely, the BSD license is vastly superior to the GPL. It is for this reason that I urge you to develop first the BSD software and back-port to a GPL'd version. Then again as long as you

Re: [Wikitech-l] OpenID and Provider logos

2009-02-24 Thread Sergey Chernyshev
Sorry, CC-ed wrong Wikimedia list originally. Please use these lists for discussion: gene...@openid.net, le...@openid.net, Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Thank you, Sergey -- Forwarded message -- From: Sergey Chernyshev

Re: [Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Sergey Chernyshev
I sent an email to OpenID general and legal lists CC-ing this list - not sure how we should go about it, but I'll definitely delay UI release until I get some initial understanding of potential solution (it's sort-of weird to have good UI without images). Sergey On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: The notion that trade marked logos are problematic is true for a specific strict understanding of the GPL license as is prevalent under people who adhere to the Debian way of thinking. It is definetly not

Re: [Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sergey Chernyshev sergey.chernys...@gmail.com wrote: I sent an email to OpenID general and legal lists CC-ing this list - not sure how we should go about it, but I'll definitely delay UI release until I get some initial understanding of potential solution (it's

[Wikitech-l] Front-end performance optimization

2009-02-24 Thread Sergey Chernyshev
As mentioned already, I'm not sure if localization is the best for candidate for being held in JavaScript, but other things mentioned, e.g. single request, minified and infinitely cached JS is what I'm looking at for overall MW infrastructure - so far it's a big performance problem for MW -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Front-end performance optimization

2009-02-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Sergey, you may also want to take a visit at the folks at http://translatewiki.net. This is where the internationalisation and localisation effort for MediaWiki and its extensions and all the rest is concentrated. In the past translatewiki,net has been instrumental in bringing best practices

Re: [Wikitech-l] Front-end performance optimization

2009-02-24 Thread Brion Vibber
On 2/24/09 4:17 PM, Sergey Chernyshev wrote: As mentioned already, I'm not sure if localization is the best for candidate for being held in JavaScript, but other things mentioned, e.g. single request, minified and infinitely cached JS is what I'm looking at for overall MW infrastructure - so

Re: [Wikitech-l] Front-end performance optimization

2009-02-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Sergey Chernyshev sergey.chernys...@gmail.com wrote: How do we go about doing this? Can it be tied into Usability project ( http://usability.wikimedia.org/)? It doesn't seem usability-related. If you have commit access, you could just start committing code

Re: [Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: IANAL My impression is that this is just as legal as referring to a company by name -- it's not an infringement to use someone's trademark to *refer to them*, whereas it is to *use the mark or something overly similar to

Re: [Wikitech-l] BSD License question

2009-02-24 Thread Delirium
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: The notion that trade marked logos are problematic is true for a specific strict understanding of the GPL license as is prevalent under people who adhere to the Debian way of thinking. It is